MEC on Mashtuur City...

[Roger Smith]

SHOOT AT THE BLACKHAWK!

although the map will change as soon as the 1.2 patch is released (due to more effective aa, weaker helis, and weaker miniguns), as is, its a blackhawk ownage map. if the usmc gets the right crew in the blackhawk, the mec is pretty much screwed unless they take the right precautions and fast. the usmc gas station base that the blackhawk spawns at, is the primary flag to take and hold for the mec, if the flag can be held, the mec have a great chance of winning.

the two most effective ways to takeout a blackhawk as is, is a mi28 kamikazi, or an orginized antiblackhawk squad. the most effective weapons for antiblackhawk detail are the vehicle heavy machinegun and the pkm, the rpk works pretty well to. keep the squad concealed and well spread out around a flag. always pick ak for your assault rifle because they have high damage and can take down the balckhawk. although three heavy machinguns trained on blackhawk can take it down quickly, grenade launcher, mg36, and at missile are great ways to take out the crew of the heli, without the crew they cant repair and the machineguns can finish them off.

i made this thread because i noticed that nobody ever shoots at the blackhawk, even when its slaughtering the entire team. SHOOT AT THE DAMN BLACKHAWK!

[rombaft]

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(due to more effective aa, weaker helis, and weaker miniguns

says who ? better AA yes (but there are only 2 on mashtuur) , weaker choppers yes, but they didn't say anything about weaker miniguns .

A PKM doesn't harm the BH much, actualy it doesn't almost do any harm .

And actualy your thread is like the 2365897465615426565 thread about this and they all say the same .


maybe instead of shooting the BH, just cape the flag wich is the BH spawner

[Roy_(NL)]

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Just make sure the tank has a good driver...
1 tank round against the belly of the BH (directly below where the pilot sits), and byebye BH....

[Roger Smith]

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but they didn't say anything about weaker miniguns.

look it up, the m134 is the minigun on the blackhawk

- Damage decreased for the M134

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45978

A PKM doesn't harm the BH much, actualy it doesn't almost do any harm .

the pkm has the most damage per shot for its clip size of any other small arm. it may not harm helis as much as a truck heavy machinegun, but its the only small arm that comes close. and dont tell me the pkm doesnt hurt the blackhawk, ive killed many a blackhawk with it.

maybe instead of shooting the BH, just cape the flag wich is the BH spawner

right, and i said that this needs to be done, but if you cap the flag, and the blackhawk is still in the air, its not hard for it to come and take the flag back. if you arent prepared, they will own you and cap the flag in no time. your logic is that if you always run away from the blackhawk it cant kill you, but you forget, helicopters are faster than land vehicles and that blackhawks can orbit a flag that you are spawning at and kill you before you take a step. bottom line is sometime you gotta make a stand and fight it. this guide was trying to say how.

[filthyscumbag]

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Just make sure the tank has a good driver...
1 tank round against the belly of the BH (directly below where the pilot sits), and byebye BH....

I didn't know about this spot can anyone confirm

[Bizzare inc.]

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I've had around 6 good clean shots at the mec heli when playing as the usmc & unless it's spot on infont of you you can't hit it! It goes right through it. As for the black hawk i hit that most of the time & because all the people inside it want to spawn again near the bh they don't bail out of the bh leaving me with all the kills

[N2K]

Re: MEC on Mashtuur City...

SHOOT AT THE BLACKHAWK!

although the map will change as soon as the 1.2 patch is released (due to more effective aa, weaker helis, and weaker miniguns), as is, its a blackhawk ownage map. if the usmc gets the right crew in the blackhawk, the mec is pretty much screwed unless they take the right precautions and fast. the usmc gas station base that the blackhawk spawns at, is the primary flag to take and hold for the mec, if the flag can be held, the mec have a great chance of winning.

the two most effective ways to takeout a blackhawk as is, is a mi28 kamikazi, or an orginized antiblackhawk squad. the most effective weapons for antiblackhawk detail are the vehicle heavy machinegun and the pkm, the rpk works pretty well to. keep the squad concealed and well spread out around a flag. always pick ak for your assault rifle because they have high damage and can take down the balckhawk. although three heavy machinguns trained on blackhawk can take it down quickly, grenade launcher, mg36, and at missile are great ways to take out the crew of the heli, without the crew they cant repair and the machineguns can finish them off.

i made this thread because i noticed that nobody ever shoots at the blackhawk, even when its slaughtering the entire team. SHOOT AT THE DAMN BLACKHAWK!

My team was effective with the "sky cow"

With a good team, BH got nothing on you!

[Bizzare inc.]

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But there is the weak point again with the mec heli, 1 swift shot of the mini gun will take out 3+ mecs in the rear of the heli & if you're playing on Mashtuur then you're either gonna get killed from a vodnik waiting for you or a mini gun.

P.s
Has anyone ever killed using the mec heli guns lol?

[D|sso]

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the two most effective ways to takeout a blackhawk as is, is a mi28 kamikazi

There is no Mi-28 on that map, and you really shouldn't resort to kamikaz'ing, nonetheless even think of it as a valid tactic.

[pertti_pasanen]

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On mashtuur the the skycow SHOULD be used to kamikaze teh bh. repeatedly.

The only other (pub-viable) tactic is to get enough (3) vods/hummers to open on the bh in unison, so the bh can't get away even if it manages to kill one of them.

[EvilP]

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2 HMMVWs/Vodniks with the heavy 50. cal guns is probably the most *reliable* method of downing blackhawks on Mashtuur. They hit steadily for a fair amount of damage and they can actually CHASE the heli to some extent. Going alone I would probably die 2/3 times before killing the BH in this manner, which isn't too bad a tradeoff if it has a pilot and 2 gunners. I recommend more than one Vodnik to make the kill more likely as opposed to letting it run off and repair.

Tanks would have to find a slope or something to angle the turret high enough to hit and I really doubt that light machineguns would do sufficient damage. AT rockets take time to reload and don't work well on fast/distant helis, but they are very good combined with other methods of downing the BH, the sudden hits will make BH pilots freak and run off making any successive AT hits unlikely.

A good pilot would probably turn the BH to waste jeeps and vans however... Lucky/skilled machinegunners might be able to pick off the minigunners in time to counter that, but it's a gamble. That's why I die a lot trying to down BHs, but every now and then you get a fat kill with 5 guys in it :)

[Capt_Havok]

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I tend to do rather well dealing with the BH's if I'm in the armor. The only catch is the team (and/or commander) have to be spotting the bastard so I can get to the flag he's trying for. With my usual gunner, it's rare a heli escapes intact.

But, the synapse of this thread is as true as the rest. Shoot down the freakin' helis.

[Roger Smith]

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There is no Mi-28 on that map, and you really shouldn't resort to kamikaz'ing, nonetheless even think of it as a valid tactic.

oh its definitly a valid tactic to kamikazi a fully loaded blackhawk with a mi17, especially when not a single person on my team will shoot at it. kamikazi with a jet is only bad imo because it leaves your team without a jet. if they spawned right away, i really wouldnt have a problem with it.

i dont even kamikazi though, i bail, pull cord, and press button.

[.damage.nl]

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Tanks would have to find a slope or something to angle the turret high enough to hit and I really doubt that light machineguns would do sufficient damage.

you can always press F2 for the better gun, and a tank is safer then a vodnik

[Roy_(NL)]

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I didn't know about this spot can anyone confirm

If you hit it right under the pilot's seat, the pilot usually will die.
If you do it at the right moment, the BH will crash most of the time.