BF2 style game is going to take off

**grolsche** · 01-20-2006, 01:35 PM

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This is a very intriguing post, one that warrants a lot more information. Few problems Ive spotted already though is the bsp technology. I know the technology is completely open source now but bsp is a technology which just isnt well suited to a game like Battlefield, unless you do what Epic did for unreal 2k3 and add a robust terrain feature in conjunction with the bsp. Anyway main point is I was wondering if you could give a lot more information on the subject either in this thread of a pm whatever suits you.

**imported_CDNCommando** · 01-20-2006, 03:13 PM

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I agree very intriguing. I'm wondering how much this will cost is when its done. Good luck WhardieJones and do your best not to get bought out by EA :-).

**WhardieJones** · 01-25-2006, 10:42 PM

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I plan to use BSP's along with a modified visibility algorithm to allow you to go indoors. Something that is really lacking from BF2.

I will release a video shortly in the coming weeks. I already have a TV guided missile operating trying to integrate ODE for some collisions and get an explosion etc. Stay tuned.

**[BG2]Panzaman** · 01-29-2006, 07:00 AM

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It's interesting to see that DICE has just increased it's budget for developing its next engine by an extra $50M on top of the previous $15M, so you have something to beat! If you have good coding skills, and you want to achieve something within a year, why not develop a mod instead?

**WhardieJones** · 01-29-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by [BG2]Panzaman

It's interesting to see that DICE has just increased it's budget for developing its next engine by an extra $50M on top of the previous $15M, so you have something to beat! If you have good coding skills, and you want to achieve something within a year, why not develop a mod instead?

Originally posted by [BG2]Panzaman

It's interesting to see that DICE has just increased it's budget for developing its next engine by an extra $50M on top of the previous $15M, so you have something to beat! If you have good coding skills, and you want to achieve something within a year, why not develop a mod instead?

I'm not trying to beat anyone, I'm just trying to create my vision of battlefield 2. The problem is there is no mod that meets my vision. Making a mod on BF2 would not work because it has way too much fog. Also, since I see so few maps with buildings that you can actually walk in to, I can only assume that feature is not very well implemented. Will a mod let you import your own shaders? I am adding a FLIR camera shader to my objects very similar to splinter cell. These are core game features and I doubt they'd be exposed in a mod programmers sdk.

Then there's cost benefit. The amount of time spent hammering a total conversion would probably be >= the amount of time to build my own solution using DirectX. Writing my own solution gives me flexibility and I only choose to implement features I need as I need them. I'm not trying to write a game engine just a game. The DX API is actually quite comprehensive and most 3d engines that you will find are nothing more than a few simple algorithms on top of DX or complete reimplementations of DX on OpenGL.

**Senap** · 01-29-2006, 03:53 PM

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WhardieJones, could you post a screenshot or some screenshots of your game? I'm really curious about this project and could possibly help out with something - even though my skills are limited.

**errno** · 01-29-2006, 09:16 PM

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thanks for this thread

**WhardieJones** · 03-14-2006, 02:06 PM

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Hello, its me again. I spent most of the last 2 months (spare time - BF2 time) converting remnant fixed function pipeline code to HLSL shader. My goal is unified lighting and shadows. Also worked on adding geo-clipmaps and skinned meshes (shader rendering). I'm getting close to the point where I can do a flyby demo on some HUUUGE data in realtime. At this point I will release a video demo.

If anyone is interested, I have a few interesting ideas I would like to implement. I need a 3D modeler who can build a 3D cockpit and use dummy textures for the LCD's. I plan to fill those LCD's with rendered textures for realtime effects.

Also, I have some 3D models that could use some tweeking, mainly attaching some missiles to a jet. Basically, I want the effect that after you fire a missile, the missile that is fired is the one attached to the model. I also have a helicopter model that needs to be exported to .X file from 3DS max 5.