Stat Padding Definition

[gregorio007]

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So you're operating under the assumption that not one of the enemies will use those bags in the fire fight you have just engaged in while they are standing next to the flag knee deep in health? Maybe it's just me, but it sure seems like you just gave them enough EXTRA health to beat you in the firefight. I doubt they will stand next to the bags you spammed at the flag and use none of them so that when it's all said and done, you can come use them. They must have your name on the side right? They were reserved for your team after the firefight right?

u throw grenades at the flag and they all die.:)

[« R²» HKS]

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Its quite easy to define a stat padder. Someone who cheats stats! Or someone who plays the game in order to receive points in a way thats not intended.

I really think some of you [BSF] guys should bite you tongues when it comes to this issue. If you need proof of why then look below, Nexar's stats have been reset, wonder why especially since his topic on how to get expert repair by driving a vodnik into the water and constantly repairing until he got expert repair and I'm sure Nastie_Butler's are about to follow.

Expert knife is a good indicator as its extremely difficult to get for even a seasoned knifer. Thanks to BF2s.com its easy to tell whether someone got it legitimately or not as it shows the date/time the different badges were received.



Taken from http://bf2s.com/player/44995752/

Simply click on the knife badge to reveal a stat padder. Notice how he got veteran and expert knife on the same day, same hour and "within" the same minute. That's 11 knife kills in a minute.

Not only that Nastie, when asked about this by myself on their TS, after a period of deathly silence, confirmed that he played a knife only game to get it. But he assured me it wasn't a knife only server, that all the players agreed to play knife only. Hmm I can't see a difference can you?

There's your definition of a stat padder!

Now watch [BSF] try and make excuses for it and back him up!

[Batausu]

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Having 2 knife badges taken at the same time is not impossible. I had my basic and veteran like that. It's not a cheat.
You can fulfill the requirements to both in the same round, so you get them at once.

[x0pht]

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Its quite easy to define a stat padder. Someone who cheats stats! Or someone who plays the game in order to receive points in a way thats not intended.

I really think some of you [BSF] guys should bite you tongues when it comes to this issue. If you need proof of why then look below, Nexar's stats have been reset, wonder why especially since his topic on how to get expert repair by driving a vodnik into the water and constantly repairing until he got expert repair and I'm sure Nastie_Butler's are about to follow.

Expert knife is a good indicator as its extremely difficult to get for even a seasoned knifer. Thanks to BF2s.com its easy to tell whether someone got it legitimately or not as it shows the date/time the different badges were received.

Taken from http://bf2s.com/player/44995752/

Simply click on the knife badge to reveal a stat padder. Notice how he got veteran and expert knife on the same day, same hour and "within" the same minute. That's 11 knife kills in a minute.

Not only that Nastie, when asked about this by myself on their TS, after a period of deathly silence, confirmed that he played a knife only game to get it. But he assured me it wasn't a knife only server, that all the players agreed to play knife only. Hmm I can't see a difference can you?

There's your definition of a stat padder!

Now watch [BSF] try and make excuses for it and back him up!

HKS, I had never been against you R2 guys. but by posting this, you obviously have your personal opinions involved in it. you are accusing someone of statspadding w/o any solid proof.

I know you probably will say "See? BSF guys trying to make excuses and back him up!!!111!!1" Just go ahead and say whatever you wanna say.

so my point is, I'm trying to tell you, you R2 guys keep posting BS against BSF. I dont know, and I dont care what kind of beef u guys are having with some of BSF members, but for me, personally, I havent talked to any of you R2 guys or not even played on ur server. Now you guys are always bringing in the whole BSF squad/clan regarding any thing that you may find as an issue. I'm reluctant to continue being nice to R2. Don't give me some crap like "BSF is not hated because of you, but because of some individuals". It is wrong to judge a group by your subjective opinions about certain members of it at the first place. and yes, I do find it offensive.

If you think any of BSFers does not deserve the awards or ranks they have got, why not let's have some scrims and find it out for yourself?

*EDIT* oh btw, HKS, did you know if you receive two awards in the same round, they show up as being received at the exact same time on BFHQ and BF2s? cuz the time on BF2s is not the time when you received the award, but the time when the server sends the stats to EA.

[« R²» HKS]

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Actually xopht I don't have anything against [BSF] as a whole, you should know that by now as I have personally praised yourself and vengeance on numerous ocassions, just a couple of your abusive members, you know who.

I also do have proof because I heard it from the horses mouth, Nastie_Butler himself when I spoke to him on your TS. So please don't try and stick up for him yet again because he told me himself he got it from playing knives only. As I said you guys really should wash you hands of these members who turn [BSF]'s name to mud.

This is the 1st time I have ever brought up [BSF] or a member of you guys without responding to an insult started by one of your members. Unfortunately
for you guys this is a fact Nastie_Butler is a stat padder, which he admitted to me on your own TS even though he tried to justify it as not stat padding but agreeing to play knives only is stat padding in EA's eyes and all you guys know that. Don't try and deny it xopht Nastie told me this personally, plain and simple truth.

This has nothing to do with [BSF] as a whole, merely Nastie_Butler, and the proof came from the horses mouth, no more denials are necessary!

To Batausu:
I know its possible to get basic and veteran at the same time many people have done that. But its "impossible to get veteran and expert at the same time" within the same minute. Basic and veteran are the same requirement in the number of knifes in a round that being 7 each. If you qualify for vet and you don't have basic as soon as you get 7 IAR you get both awards.

[x0pht]

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Yes HKS i know u've stated that you are not against the whole BSF several times, but i dont understand what u meant by "Now watch [BSF] try and make excuses for it and back him up!" and "some of you [BSF] guys should bite you tongues when it comes to this issue.", while there are only two BSF members that have posted in this thread, which was vengence and myself.

but anyway, I dont know what nastie told you. however, as i said in the previous post, the time in your stats on BF2s/BFHQ is not the time when the event happened (when the award is received), it is actually the time when the server sends the stats to EA account server.

you may try it yourself.

so in other words, if you receive two awards in the same round, they will appear to be received at the same time in your stats. cuz the game servers do not record time. the EA account server cannot tell what exact period of time during a single round you receive the awards at.

[Odedge]

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Getting back to the topic. I don't like people who spam medic/ammo bags most of the time. It doesn't take any though process and is probably done for their stats rather than their team.

If you are defending a flag or maybe at the choke point in Karkand, I can see it. But I think Dice should have taken a point away from you if an enemy picks it up. That would require people to put a tiny amount of thought into "when" to drop a pack.

I also hate it when we are trying to take a flag and immediately people start dropping their bag of goodies. Sure, it may help you when the enemy realizes what your doing. But by dropping the bags too soon, you are telling the enemy "Hey, we are going to take the flag now, just to give you a warning". Wait until the flag goes neutral, then do it.

I also love the people who spawn on a SL who is hiding, while the squad members are trying to take the flag. Again, why don't you tell them where I am at. It will make my death happen quicker.

But, from time to time, I love it when the enemy drops their med bags while trying to take a flag. I kill them, get damaged, and heal myself in 3 easy steps.

[« R²» HKS]

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Thanks for the heads up xopht, whilst I didn't know that about BF2s.com it doesn't change the fact how he got it as "I got it from the horses mouth" in which there were other [BSF] guys on which heard also as well as 4 <<R2>> members, thus the point I made about not backing him up on this issue.

Whilst I think its admirable you stick up for your guys, there are times when its not wise to do so in which this is certainly one of those times. However that's a decision you need to make. Again I will say its nothing personal against [BSF] as a whole, I have never called the whole of [BSF] stat padders nor would I and the only reason I actually looked at his stats is because of the way he behaved on our server the other day and then on our TS.

As I said I couldn't give a rats about stats or what other people do "however" there are a lot of people here who do and stats are integral feature for some people and this type of abuse of the system just makes a mockery of it.

That is all I will be saying on this issue.

[x0pht]

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I understand what you mean.

since i was not there on TS when you guys were talkin about it, I cannot make any comment on how nastie got the expert knife badge. I just simply pointed out the fact how BF2s records the time stats.

I'm a bit sensitive when it comes to squad/clan. I treat any clan that I've been in or I'm currently in as a family. (same to my previous cs clan) so sorry for the misunderstanding. :)

[Bildungsroman]

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i think people that rape a base with a jet is stat padding, christ 100 kills no deaths each round kinda is stupid, i cant fly jets that good, but i can easily just drop bombs at main base all round and rake up points

[froschquetscher]

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before the first patch wasnt it like this?

you be commander pull your knife out and get all the artillery kills as knife kills? i am not sure. but if it was like this i think the knife and pistol badges werent quite to hard to get. even at the same day.

[froschquetscher]

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i think people that rape a base with a jet is stat padding, christ 100 kills no deaths each round kinda is stupid, i cant fly jets that good, but i can easily just drop bombs at main base all round and rake up points

when i play with my squad members from bsf on wake as chinese we attack the carrier so no one gets off and takes a flag. because we want to win. and also because mostly the usmc is to dumm to get off the carrier. they rather wait in 10 ppl groups at the spawnpoint of the jet and cobra.

the other way around when we play usmc on wake we take quickly all flags except one and just baserape em till all tickets are gone. this way its hard to get baseraped rather than baseraping yourself. we do it because we have the skills on how to do it.

i dont understand in which way this is stat padding. most people are not able to do this so they complain and call us cheaters and baserapers.

[imported_Brother Justice]

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I always drop an ammo/med bag at choke points, usually only one. when i reload others or give med i usually just hold it and stand next the the person, for two reasons. 1 being most of the time the guys just keeps running and ignores me and 2 because it keeps me healed. a lot of times when there are a bunch of casualties around me and im holding the bag im getting lots of heath points but i cant throw the bag on ground. I will sometime toss a bag at a sniper on exposed ridge. ive gotten many heal points from pack thrown earlier.

[Boojie]

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when i play with my squad members from bsf on wake as chinese we attack the carrier so no one gets off and takes a flag. because we want to win. and also because mostly the usmc is to dumm to get off the carrier. they rather wait in 10 ppl groups at the spawnpoint of the jet and cobra.

the other way around when we play usmc on wake we take quickly all flags except one and just baserape em till all tickets are gone. this way its hard to get baseraped rather than baseraping yourself. we do it because we have the skills on how to do it.

i dont understand in which way this is stat padding. most people are not able to do this so they complain and call us cheaters and baserapers.

the minute you mentioned you were a part of bsf, that said it all.


(pssst....it's spelled "dumb", not "dumm".)

[« R²» HKS]

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the minute you mentioned you were a part of bsf, that said it all.


(pssst....it's spelled "dumb", not "dumm".)

To stick up for him a little english I believe is his 2nd language.