Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

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  • vbl

    #1

    Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

    Ever had that feeling that you were the only person on your team? When you're up on the front trying to cap a CP, by yourself, half-dead with 10 bullets left after fighting your way through 6 bad guys, watching that flag slowly drop and wondering where the hell your support is? Then some slack-jawed enemy just happens to stroll in, and because of your frail state, you are easily dispatched.

    And then you you yell:

    "Where the hell is my team!?"
    "What the hell are they doing?!"

    or some combination of the above peppered with words that your mother wouldn't appreciate.

    Yea, it happens to me all the time. I used to get frustrated by it and, despite being kicked repeatedly by language filters, curse my teammates out for being totally useless. Then I started wondering - what if everyone felt like I felt? If that were true, then failure would really be a collective, shared problem. But how could I fix it?

    I could advocate the formation of big squads and VoIP, but that's not realistic - and how could anyone enforce it during a public pick-up game? Some folks don't use squads, and most of the rest are quite content in small 1-3 person squads either alone, or with friends and clanmates. Many use Teamspeak or Ventrilo.

    After some careful thought, I've compiled 3 easy things that you can do to make your team better - lone wolf, SL, SM, whatever. If most folks follow these common guidelines, the team's net worth can go up ten-fold.

    Take time to support someone else's objectives
    We all have our battlefield priorities, and they change from minute to minute. We zig and zag, shooting here and running there. Take that flag, defend this one, man that TOW, etc. etc. But with everyone doing their own things (and with so much to do), it's rare that these random objectives ever line up.

    Next time you have the chance to switch objectives, stop. Look around. Where are your teammates? Look for the groups of 1-2 people trying to accomplish something - those guys need your help. You could be the single determining factor in making their objective successful.

    The lone player might need some extra firepower, while the small squad may need someone to watch their flanks - to be where they aren't.

    Think of your team as a collection of rocks that form a boulder - work to become the sand that strengthens their positions or fills in the gaps.

    Spot everything
    This can't be stressed enough. Wargimp made a whole post about it, and I'm calling it out here because it is critical. Spot everything you see, even most of the things you plan on killing.

    Why? Because if you happen to die, your team will know where to clean up what's left - which can make the difference between a successful enemy CP capture or not. In particular, the importance of spotting enemy vehicles should be painfully obvious for anyone who has driven a HUMVEE around a corner and into the barrel of a tank.

    Spot everything. No exceptions.

    Pay attention to the flow of the battle
    In some sports it's referred to as "keeping your eyes up". Keep an eye on the mini-map. Listen for spots. Pay attention to losses of CPs. Look at the UAV, even if it's not on top of you.

    Everyone needs to have a good sense of the battle's ebb, flow, and rhythm. Where the bad guys are, where they're going, and where you need to be. Who's in trouble, and who doesn't need any extra help. This ties into the first suggestion, but it also goes beyond it. Even if you can't (or don't need to) help a small squad across the map, security there may mean danger here.

    You need to study the battle as closely as the Commander and SLs - it's the only way that you can make the most difference. I'm not suggesting neglecting the immediate firefight, but use any free seconds to re-evaluate the landscape.

    I know it's a lot to manage, but if you stay diligent at being a good strategist, it'll become second nature in no time.

    Conclusion
    Your team's success comes in two parts:
    1) Being able to kill the bad guys more efficiently than they kill you and your teammates
    2) Killing the bad guys at the right times and in the right places

    Pay heed to the three suggestions offered above and you'll have #2 totally pwned. Then you just have to worry about your aim :)
  • Fullforce

    #2
    Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

    Superb Post. *claps*

    No, really. You state the common problems facing teamwork and how to overcome them easily and effectively.

    I must agree with you on all of those points, playing as a team does make a difference, and the times i've helped people out and they've helped me out really does make the difference in the long run.

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    • Jadacool

      #3
      Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

      Good reading, especially i liked the first one [Take time to support someone else's objectives]

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      • -=4th=-1/2Hawk
        Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 213

        #4
        Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

        Awesome post. I spot nearly everything I see and follow a simple guideline. If an enemy sees me, I shoot him. If he doesnt see me, I spot him - then shoot him. Its second nature now... dont even think about it.

        I wish other people used this feature more. Even if you can take out a wayward enemy, by spotting them you are letting your team know there's action going on in a certain place - and commonly where there's one, there's many. I especially spot, respot and spot again enemy helicopters because I know that our helis benefit greatly from having them show up on the mini-map, especially when tangled up in a revolving dogfight. Wish others did that for me when I'm flying!

        The one thing I hate about spotting though, you have to use your left mouse button to select it and I dont know how many times I've fired a round off instead. Would prefer to choose with the right button, but anyway...

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        • {USI}_DirTyDeeDs
          Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 334

          #5
          Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

          I always spot enemies, never more than 2x in a row, unless I am trying to track a specific target, like a chopper or tank. Only 2x, cuz if people hear it too much they will ignore it. I hate it when someone triggers enemy spotted until he is blocked.
          it is a painful read. these things are pretty obvious to me. I hope that the people who read these things and say, hmm I never thought about that, actually do something about it.

          WHAT THE HELL IS THE REST OF THE TEAM DOING? :cry:

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          • vbl

            #6
            Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

            Originally posted by {USI}_DirTyDeeDs
            WHAT THE HELL IS THE REST OF THE TEAM DOING? :cry:
            Wondering what you're doing.

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            • [*OF*]TheFatman

              #7
              Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

              Good post! I'd like to add that if your a lone wolf and you manage to sneak to some rear CP, please make a squad. Even if you're going to dicth it after we take the flag. I jump around squads when it's helpful to get some extra numbers somewhere. And I hate it when I see someone's gotten all the way to the TV station on Sharqi and there's nothing I can do to help them.

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              • imported_Rafterman
                Member
                • May 2005
                • 1105

                #8
                Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

                Totally agree. I've found the best way to foster teamwork is to start with yourself. If you're in a squad that's not working together, just start following one or two guys (preferably the squad leader, but that's not always possible) and next thing you know --- voila --- you've got teamwork.

                If nothing else, remember the old military adage -- head to the sound of gunfire.

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                • The_Misfit

                  #9
                  Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

                  Nice post.....couple of big points in there..

                  Spotting - HUGE. If your infantry and you see a jet fly overhead - spot the damn thing -- the friendly jet/helo pilot will be damn happy to see them on their map..

                  And "flow of the battle". It amazes me how MEC still spawn at the hotel, and USMC at their main spawns, while 1-2 squads on each side wage war over the back 1/2 of the map. Before the MEC knows it, the US has all of their CO's assets and the 4 flags on that side of the water (64). Stop being lemmings and watch what's happening in the whole map.... :)

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                  • canadianmadcow

                    #10
                    Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

                    good post

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                    • Demonicfrog

                      #11
                      Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

                      Nice post. Most of the time, your team is fighting over one heavily defended flag...

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                      • wattsfox43

                        #12
                        Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

                        Good stuff. Agree.

                        I think this also kinda falls under teamwork.. at least with the commander:

                        Anyone notice when you are a commander how frustrating it is when a squadleader or two absolutly REFUSE to click "yes" when you give them an order.

                        I noticed last night again.. there was a squad on their way to obviously cap the flag about 150 feet in front of them. I decided.. ok.. cool.. do that.. and hit "attack" I received an instant "NEGATIVE-NO CAN DO etc etc etc" Then watched as they proceeded to do it anyway.

                        for the sake of my peace of mind.. I would rather you just say YES SURE!! ROGER THAT!! and do whatever you want than basically spit in my face and then do what i suggested you do in the first place.

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                        • donpost
                          Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 215

                          #13
                          Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

                          What an excellent post!

                          I'm off right now to try those things out. Nothing gives you that sense of accomplishment you get from a bit of teamwork.

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                          • Talus
                            Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 6854

                            #14
                            Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

                            Nice post.

                            This is basically how I play.

                            Being as absolutely aware of your surroundings as you can makes an ENORMOUS difference.

                            The only thing I will add, is that when you use the 'spotted' command, spotting the same enemy twice does not extend the length of time that enemy is spotted. The 'spotted timer' runs out on its own steam regardless. The best way to keep an enemy spotted without annoying your team is to wait until the spotted timer runs out, and spot him again.

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                            • ColonGlock

                              #15
                              Re: Good Teamwork in 3 Easy Steps... and you don't even have to join a squad.

                              Originally posted by wattsfox43
                              Good stuff. Agree.

                              I think this also kinda falls under teamwork.. at least with the commander:

                              Anyone notice when you are a commander how frustrating it is when a squadleader or two absolutly REFUSE to click "yes" when you give them an order.

                              I noticed last night again.. there was a squad on their way to obviously cap the flag about 150 feet in front of them. I decided.. ok.. cool.. do that.. and hit "attack" I received an instant "NEGATIVE-NO CAN DO etc etc etc" Then watched as they proceeded to do it anyway.

                              for the sake of my peace of mind.. I would rather you just say YES SURE!! ROGER THAT!! and do whatever you want than basically spit in my face and then do what i suggested you do in the first place.

                              I would concentrate on giving orders to squads that are not near the fight or a flag. It annoys squads if you micromanage when they are doing what they are supposed to do.

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