Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

[imported_Caliber]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

Amazingly I just got a Pre N router and i am having the same issue.

Computers alone will play well online but when two computers get online, everything becomes poo. Lagginess and a lot of jumpiness. Ping times are what they are normally at for both computers ( 20-80) The second one computer gets off the other computer has no lag whatsoever. This is not just when both computers are on the same server but also when they are just playing BF2 online in different servers.

I used to use a linksys router ( not wireless though) and had no problem.
I adjusted DMZ for first one and then both computers with no luck.

Now my roommate is playing SF while i search the internet for a solution. No luck finding anything.

Please help.

[imported_Caliber]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

Oh and i forgot to mention that both computers are not wireless computers The are both hardwired into the belkin pre n router

[TSS SNIPE]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

An easy way to figure out what your routers IP is is listed below... This is of course if your router has a html version of its OS. (Firmware)

click "start" then "run"

type "cmd" and hit "enter"

type "ipconfig" and hit '"enter"

look for the default gateway address... Bingo thats what your looking for.

-Snipe

[Talus]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

/smacks forehead

Thanks for that..I completely forgot.

[p928sfan]

Re: Multiple computers behind Belkin router - problems with multiplayer

OK, so there are two of us with Belkin Pre-N routers having this issue. My model number is F5D8230-4, and using it's built in firmware updater, it claims it is up to date. Here is the info:
Firmware Version2.00.06 Boot Version1.00.00 HardwareF5D8230-4 v2 Serial No. BEL1WN82

Does anyone else use the Belkin, or have suggestions?

[imported_Caliber]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

This is what i got
Firmware Version 2.01.02
Boot Version 1.00.00
Hardware F5D8230-4 v2
Serial No. BEL20OAF

it also says its firmware is up to date . I dont know if i should attempt port forwarding or if it is even neccessary for this problem. BTW im using a cable connection.

[imported_Caliber]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

Port forwarding doesnt work either

This is driving me crazy. My old reliable friend Google is being pretty vague with answers and i cant pin point a distinct problem. Im not sure if its a firewall problem, a router problem, a firewall problem ON the router.....

SOMEBADO PLEASE HELP!!! :wall: :cussing: :cussing: :ar15: :banana:

[TSS SNIPE]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

Let me say this Pre N is still in beta. Thus "PRE" The technology was being devoloped and a bunch of manufactorers decided to release the technology early as it has several features we were looking for in the networking industry. However my opionion was it should not have been released. Thier are other technologies right around the corner that offer us alittle more. Like the up and coming "I" standard which focuses stricty on secuirty.

Also I would recomend to all that you stick with a well known router supplier like D-Link, Linksys and if you really want Cisco. I have tried Microsoft's routers, Beldin, and a bunch of smaller companies most of you have never heard off. I have had consistant problems thru the years with Beldin equipment and in most cases pulled this equipment from my residential / small buisness clients and replaced with D-Link.

D-Link makes a great product and thier new gamers routers are great. I use them on my home gaming network.

Thier is always chance for WI-FI packets to become jarbaled in transmition or not even reaching thier destination. (Look for TX / RX errors) or packet loss. For die hard gaming I will not even look at wireless connections. Gigabyte ethernet all the way.

I got to tell you I really think alot of your problems are related to these Beldin routers. Try upgrading the firware on your routers and see if it helps.

Pardon the spelling, on my shop floor on my pocket pc. Its a pain to type on this thing. (Tablet PC here I come)

Snipe
Network Administrator

[Talus]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

Have you tried port TRIGGERING?

[p928sfan]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

To Talus -- Port triggering won't work in this instance because we're trying to get two computers to run the same program behind the router, and they both use the same ports. (which is why I asked earlier if you could change the ports that BF2 uses. ANd of course, assuming my knowledge of port triggering is correct )

To Snipe -- I'm starting to think you may be right on the Belkin idea. We did run cables to all three computers but still have the same problem, so wireless isn't the issue, but the Belkin itsself could still be. I'm going to pickup another branded router today and see if that fixes our issue. That should help eliminate Belkin, or not.

[Talus]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

I'm not talking about port FORWARDING..which is what I think you're referring to.

Port triggering is different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_triggering

[p928sfan]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

My question around port Triggering though, is we're talking about two trips. Uploaded and downloaded data.

Upload (from one of my PC's to server) -- This one I can somewhat envision, IF I can setup the BF2 client to talk out on different Ports. However, I haven't seen any postings on how to tell the program to use a different port set from the one outlined in the manual. If this could be done, then my router would gather both upload streams and send them to the WAN on the one port.

Download (from Network server back to us) -- The server is NOT going to know our locally defined setup. Servers are built to respond on the standard port defined in BF2. That means both computer's info comes into the router, and the router must determine which goes where (and port info is the same in both sample packets). DOn't see how this helps.

SO, two questions:
1. Can the client be changed to talk out on different ports?
2. Is there anyway to deliniate the return streams from servers?

[<DV8>mrbucket]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

What are your wireless cards rated at for transfer?

[p928sfan]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

Both wireless cards were G's. However, we've since eliminated the wireless component entirely by running some wires in the attic (Thank god it's Jan and not July here in Arizona)

[p928sfan]

Re: Multiple computers behind router - problems with multiplayer

Well, in testing with a new router I guess we've shown the problem. I got an older Linksys BEFw11s4v2, and using just the hardwires, we have no problem with multiple computer running BF2 at the same time.

It really sucks that I paid around 100$ for the new Belkin and while it might have extended range on wireless, it can't handle direct wired traffic correctly. Unreal. I guess we stick with the Linksys for now.