Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

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  • Oldguy

    #286
    Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

    Originally posted by Village_Idiot
    A great number of people are abandoning BF2, and giving it up for good. They simply aren't having fun anymore.
    I´ll second that!
    Until now i have already played almost 600 hours BF2, but day by day the fun is decreasing - i think the end of BF2 is coming soon...

    First time it was a very enjoyable game play, with not many ppl. just whoring vehicles & points, performing stupid spawn killing, base raping and trying to use glitches, exploits etc.

    Now it is getting harder and harder to find a decent ranked server, where you can play in a somewhat enjoyable way. Either you`ll find heli,jet or tank whores, who have nothing better to do than pushing their stats in an egoistic way.
    Nothing bad with that, basically, because also 12 -16 year old superheros are playing BF2 and they need obviously to show their skillz and how good they are .
    But especially for the newer players, which came a bit later into BF2, most game plays might look more like a horror scenario than an interesting and funny multiplayer game.
    Personally i don`t have had till now too much probs with BF2, but it is getting a bit lame to see always the same names and people whoring in the MEC bomber or PLA jets, or whoring kills with the attack helis and afterwards those ppl. are posting proudly their "stats and medals", telling the world how good they are - LOL.

    For sure "good" might be an issue of definition, but good might also be to give other players and even "lower" ranked ppl. the chance to grab a vehicle nd to not only abuse the newer gamers as cheap "kills".

    EA/Dice has IMHO failed to take action out of the obvious tendencies and the trends inside of BF2. Especially the jets AND attack helis are MORE than overpowered, compared to the infantery equipment.
    Every player who has trained a lil bit how to handle the attack heli and the jets has until now a too extreme advantage. One does not need extra uber skills to get a lot of gunner-kills or bomb ppl. out in Oman - LOL - even my grandma can achieve this after training it in SP, empty servers or unranked ones.
    The infantery needs absolutely either another class to choose or even better another weapon - an AA to carry with like the AT-class, anti-tank.

    To get rid of the stupid "it`s my jet, my heli" egoistic mentality, EA/Dice has failed to implement a kind of better overall handling. A player should NOT be able to grab a vehicle straight after shot down, bailed out or whatever. He should have to wait for e.g. some minutes, until he can try to grab one again. That would give other players waiting a better poss. to get one too.

    EA/Dice should have taken care for another big flaw. Teamkills or TK at least with grabbing vehicles. I do see always daily now ppl. standing in front of a jet, not letting the pilot take off, then the pilot does a clean roadkill - welcome in kindergarden.

    But sure - the developers can not change the players behviour up to the last bit...there will be always small minded ego freaks who might need to compensate their real life frustration with a sparkling " I Powned you"-mentlity - sh.t happens.

    Just my 2Cents.

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    • imported_OBCD

      #287
      Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

      still loving it

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      • Canuck

        #288
        Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

        The only thing I don't like is the 'random cone of fire' taking away the skill required in order to make the game more noob friendly. I doubt any other fps game uses random cone of fire. Bring back recoil like in BF1942 and BFV and let skill mean something as opposed to this spray and pray crap.

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        • HowieMandel

          #289
          Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

          Originally posted by -(PK)-DarkIllusion
          all u can do is practice...
          how do you practice something that doesn't work?

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          • Azriel

            #290
            Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

            Originally posted by Oldguy
            EA/Dice has IMHO failed to take action out of the obvious tendencies and the trends inside of BF2. Especially the jets AND attack helis are MORE than overpowered, compared to the infantery equipment.

            The infantery needs absolutely either another class to choose or even better another weapon - an AA to carry with like the AT-class, anti-tank.
            What DICE has fail to do, I think, is provide real infanty maps. I know a lot of people think BF is all about vehicles, and I don't mind all the maps that focus on that. I love that they are comming out with a Armored Fury booster pack that will give tank whores a paradise to play in.

            Make one for huge jet battles too, just give infantry players a few maps also. Ones where we are more that cannon fodder for the jets/tankers.

            I bought SF because they promised an infantry focused game, but it is little differant than the old maps. Every 30 seconds another tank or APC comes along and ruins a good fire fight. I don't even care if it is a friendly tank tryng to help us out, go away and let us ground pounders slug it out.

            I would gladly pay $10 for an infanrty booster pack if it was an infanrty only pack, but I'm not getting either of the 2 new packs because they are just more of the same **** we got now.

            I'm not complaining to nerf the vehicals, I'm glad people like to use them, just give us 1 or 2 maps that are infanrty only if we want to play that way. Is is so much to as to get even one mapfor the hard core ground pounders to fight it out without any heavy vehicles?

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            • BlueBunny63
              Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 357

              #291
              Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

              Agree with a lot of what "Old Guy" says. On a lot of servers, the game has become a festival of egotistical, childishly selfish & arrogantly boastful street punks online.

              I've found that it helps to avoid joining new servers during the time of 1400-0000 in the USA, and avoid the angry after school boys. Or just stick with servers that you know are frequented by team players who are actually online in order to have fun in a cooperative way, rather than by being a point-whore with a mouth like a prison b^tch.

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              • Manic Depressive

                #292
                Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                i tell why I stopped playing and its was simply the special forces update. It was too childish that ones with money to burn on a 2 map upgrade and some new weapons had new weapons to play with on the regular BF2 while the cheap people like myself had to still those peoples weapons everytime you got a kill.

                just thought it was noobish. and a easy way to make the cheap people be forced to buy the expansion pack in order to stay up with the community.

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                • pertti_pasanen

                  #293
                  Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                  Originally posted by Azriel
                  What DICE has fail to do, I think, is provide real infanty maps. I know a lot of people think BF is all about vehicles, and I don't mind all the maps that focus on that. I love that they are comming out with a Armored Fury booster pack that will give tank whores a paradise to play in.

                  Make one for huge jet battles too, just give infantry players a few maps also. Ones where we are more that cannon fodder for the jets/tankers.

                  I bought SF because they promised an infantry focused game, but it is little differant than the old maps. Every 30 seconds another tank or APC comes along and ruins a good fire fight. I don't even care if it is a friendly tank tryng to help us out, go away and let us ground pounders slug it out.

                  I would gladly pay $10 for an infanrty booster pack if it was an infanrty only pack, but I'm not getting either of the 2 new packs because they are just more of the same **** we got now.

                  I'm not complaining to nerf the vehicals, I'm glad people like to use them, just give us 1 or 2 maps that are infanrty only if we want to play that way. Is is so much to as to get even one mapfor the hard core ground pounders to fight it out without any heavy vehicles?
                  My thougths exactly. Hopefully there'll be at least a GRUNTS mod ore something where the heaviest vehicle is a humvee.

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                  • Roger Smith
                    Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 1390

                    #294
                    Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                    the problem isnt that air is to effective. its that anti air missiles arent effective, in the slightest.

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                    • HowieMandel

                      #295
                      Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                      game needs more spawn points too. Seems like only a handful per flag. And all the points seem to be out in the open. Which.......i mean come on. Flag is turning and you get lucky and spawn...........in the middle of the street with an APC and TANK already pointing there, cuz they know where the spawn points are........blah.

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                      • Habloc

                        #296
                        Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                        Originally posted by Village_Idiot
                        A great number of people are abandoning BF2, and giving it up for good.
                        They simply aren't having fun anymore.

                        Why? Most games have devolved into utter domination by planes and helicopters, which are extremely overdone and overpowered.

                        Planes rapidly heal back to full health, and essentially have unlimited ammo. Both heal and resupply are accomplished by a quick passover any airfield. The unlimited Bomb and rocket spam do truly massive damage, leaving those in a large area with little hope of survival.

                        Anti aircraft guns only get two shots, which are nearly useless. They rarely hit, even if you are careful to fire only after flares have fallen. They only do incremental damage, which a plane may instantly heal by a quick passover of an airfield. Even the anti-aircraft vehicles have little hope of success. Though a direct hit with an anti tank weapon utterly destroys any jeep or truck, a helicopter shrugs it off without problem. Even a direct hit with a tank shell does not destroy a helicopter, this is absurd. The flak guns on the armored personnel carriers do damage, but must be trained on helicopters for a long time to bring them down, while any decent helicopter pilot would pop them in one second after discovery. No stinger missiles are included in this game, so those running about are simply fodder.

                        A helicopter must move slowly or hover long enough to take several hits from an anti-tank weapon to die, something only newbies would tend to do. Support machine guns do little. Whatever hits are scored, are quickly shrugged off via healing at any helipad.

                        Worse, a person manning an anti aircraft gun is instantly highlighted for planes to see, manning one is like screaming, "kill me now!". The designers were idiots to do this.

                        The result of all of this is a few helicopter and airplane pilots running around with massive scores and almost never dying, while the people actually playing the game are demoralized by being killed over and over. This is not an obscure case involving only highly skilled pilots, it is the norm with run of the mill pilots on most every server. This is not fun for anyone but the pilots, and drives many people to quit for good. Not just experienced players, but even worse, the newbies who should be getting hooked on this game.

                        Is this really what the designers had in mind? A flight simulator with fodder, it's just not fun anymore.
                        I agree, I said allready in the demo, that the planes would really screw up the gameplay, sad that it toke EA this long to do something about it.

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                        • BravoTwoZeroUK

                          #297
                          Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                          Well I still don't play it.Can't remember how long it's been now!?
                          The game just got boring as hell.
                          Might try it when the new patch comes out but I dont' think it'll make much difference.
                          No teamwork no fun.

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                          • .:NITl2O:.

                            #298
                            Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                            I think that the next patch should include a new type of AA. A smaller and faster mobile AA vehicle, sort of like the MEC's version of the mobile AA. Having this would make it easier for the mobile AA to escape rocket fire from Helo's and planes. I like the idea of just zipping down the shoreline of Wake Island, and just gunning down planes. I don't know.

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                            • CS-Evolution

                              #299
                              Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                              Originally posted by Manic Depressive
                              i tell why I stopped playing and its was simply the special forces update. It was too childish that ones with money to burn on a 2 map upgrade and some new weapons had new weapons to play with on the regular BF2 while the cheap people like myself had to still those peoples weapons everytime you got a kill.

                              just thought it was noobish. and a easy way to make the cheap people be forced to buy the expansion pack in order to stay up with the community.

                              You act like the SF weapons are a huge upgrade from the standard weapons. If you're getting owned by people with these weapons, it just means you need to practice more.

                              And it was an 8 map upgrade.

                              Of course, I don't think your arguement has anything to do with Special Forces. You just sound like someone who wants to blame other people for their own misfortunes.

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                              • Hu.Z_of_PLA

                                #300
                                Re: Why many people are quitting BF2 for good -- it's not fun anymore

                                if you want infantry only, go back to CS.

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