How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

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  • sidtherat

    #16
    Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

    how to improve choopers?

    first - shields. typical x-wing outfit will do, about 200% of plane own strenght, with 10%/s recharge

    second - laser guns - now it is tooooo hard to get a kill versus armour when bombs are away

    third - draw boxes around infantry too, it is now damn to hard to see them, that give them an unfair advantage and let them live

    foutrh - increase rearming range - about 100times. so planes are not bound doing that stupid back-and-forth routine. and can concentrate on who.. ops, dooing goood fooor their team

    fifth - as for chopers - make tv guided - laser guided. why waste time aiming rocket, when it can hit instantly, of course laser canon [turbolaser will do] instead of that crappy chaingun that takes TWO hits to kill a soldier [thus greatly limiting and handicaping chopers agains pistol-armed infantry]

    sixth - make blackhawks minigun not only explosive [biggest bulls.. ive ever seen - 5.56mm round and it is explosive?] but armour piercing, and draw boxes around targets :)

    seventh - wake up

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    • imported_Master Shake

      #17
      Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

      I would like them to eliminate mid-air reloading, just give the planes and choppers 1 load out at a time,a plane and chopper cannot reload in mid air, I liked the Desert Combat solution, when your out of missles and bullets you need to go reload over your airfield. This will make them more of a hit and run vehicle witch is what they really are.

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      • hollowpoint367

        #18
        Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

        Make the planes more balanced in air-to-air....Going head on with a J-10 is pointless, it's superior in every way: smaller hitbox, MUCH faster, turns tighter, like 3x the afterburner length of the F-35. I realize that USMC has the 'ALMIGHTY WHOREHAWK', but hell, those things go down so fast against good pilots.

        The cannons on jets need to do more damage to other planes.

        Missiles need to work.

        Larger flare count and no delay, but you can't reload them until they are completely drained. Reduce the effectiveness of them for balance.

        Larger FOV

        Fix MEC chopper TV

        Add a little bigger splash damage for Cobra and Z-10

        Nerf the jeep mgun damage to choppers a little, it's unbelievable how quick they take down choppers at the moment.

        Oh, make TOW and AA sites not shielded by the latest alien technology, making them impervious to being totally crushed by a tank or by guns until you blow up the station itself.

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        • JuzzyDee

          #19
          Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

          You've got to be kidding. They are nerfing choppers, especially attack choppers for a reason. They are unstoppable. No one wants to play anti tank, because medium to long range, theres not a viable way of taking out infantry, unless you want to waste one of the extremely valuable very few rockets you already have.

          Whats the point in having something with the ability to do some damage to vehicles, but you can't take out the bloke coming over the ridge with his AK in 1 hand and a beer in the other.

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          • imported_bigpappa
            Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 2159

            #20
            Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

            they should make the planes/helos harder to fly to keep noobs from flying.

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            • Kattspya

              #21
              Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

              Originally posted by Pubicmonkey
              Well then they can learn to actually fly the damn helicopters instead of being able to fly spraying missiles at people, they'd actually have to line up a shot first. Also on the subject of hitting a lone infantryman.. ever heard of a gunner?

              And wtf are those quotes about? The word that was sensored began with a P.
              If they can't fly then 14 FFAR's isn't a problem. If they lowered the number to ten or upped the damage against tanks I wouldn't have a complaint. I just don't see why I only should be able to take out one tank even if I hit every shot. Oh well it's not often you take out two tanks on the same run but some leeway would be nice when engaging from a distance.

              I quoted the censored word to indicate that I didn't know what it said.

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              • « R²» HKS

                #22
                Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                Choppers need to be able to attack planes. If heli's had Air to Air missiles maybe the planes wouldn't be so untouchable. Oh that's right 1st you would have to have AA missiles that actually hit their intended target.

                What about making planes have to land to re-fuel?

                Planes don't need to be improved they need to be nerfed. Currently it takes little skill to fly a plane, maybe make them a lot harder to fly. Stop them being able to fly @ 2mph. I personally don't find it any challenge to fly a plane. They are virtually untouchable, yet DICE decide to nerf the heli's?

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                • Sloi sauce

                  #23
                  Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                  Well, what do you expect ? Too many of the wrong people bitch and moan about them so that's who the next patch will cater to. I'm definitely not happy about the changes but meh, I'm lobbying...

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                  • hollowpoint367

                    #24
                    Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                    Choppers can attack planes. 2 rockets to the FACE or one TV up the ASS. Your pick. I choose teh latter because I'm normally the gunner.

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                    • CtrlAltDe1337
                      Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1431

                      #25
                      Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                      Hmmm, a thread about how to make jets better????? :|: :hmm:

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                      • Odedge
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 285

                        #26
                        Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                        I personally would like to remove jets for they are the biggest line wolf whores of the game. That rant aside, why not show the cockpit at all times. Why is it that in either a plane or helicopter, you can remove the cockpit and be able to see right below you?

                        But, you can't do this to any degree with other vehicles (being able to see the vehicle from a 3rd person view doesn't count as that is possible with all vehicles). If they made this change, it would be harder to fly the vehicles and more difficult to kill people because of the reduced field of view.

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                        • Kattspya

                          #27
                          Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                          Originally posted by cwv_Odedge
                          I personally would like to remove jets for they are the biggest line wolf whores of the game. That rant aside, why not show the cockpit at all times. Why is it that in either a plane or helicopter, you can remove the cockpit and be able to see right below you?
                          This is a server setting.

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                          • Boojie

                            #28
                            Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                            Originally posted by cwv_Odedge
                            Why is it that in either a plane or helicopter, you can remove the cockpit and be able to see right below you?
                            You're kidding right? I had no idea this was possible. No wonder the little girls that fly these things rack up points.

                            Maybe they were going for the Wonder Woman style invisible plane?

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                            • iewgnem

                              #29
                              Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                              Boost jets and choppers?

                              How about adding a third weapon called "super ulber button of death" into a jet that, once presed (reloads every 1 sec), it kills all hostile forces on the entire map (maybe friendly too, but that would be too easily exploited).

                              ...Oh wait, jets can already do that.

                              To be honest jets or choppers dosnt need any boost, the only thing I can see if some balancing (F35B for example, missile tracking, etc.)

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                              • Odedge
                                Member
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 285

                                #30
                                Re: How can we improve on the jets/ choppers?

                                Originally posted by Boojie
                                You're kidding right? I had no idea this was possible. No wonder the little girls that fly these things rack up points.

                                Maybe they were going for the Wonder Woman style invisible plane?
                                It's hard to detect sarcasm on the net, but I will pretend your not being sarcastic. You shouldn't be able to remove the view of the cockpit in these vehicles to make it consistent with that of the other vehicles.

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