Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Going by your logic;

What makes sniping valid?

Because it can be done?

Because you like it?

Because all the cool kids are doing it these days?

I happen to think sniping is the lamest tactic in the game, however unlike you and all the other whinny children in this thread, I live with it. I don't use it, but I'm not going to moan and b*tch about someone else using it.

You are tottaly right!

I think the lamest tacktick is not using your brain, if there are 2 apc en one tank and they are genist.

and still people spwan as medic :|:

[Bubas]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Yes. and it takes skills because you most know where to spawn to attack and defend a flag.
(thinking with your brains = skill)
and most people on public have no brains

P.S Forgot almost every clan I Play with wouldn´t mind that this feature will stay.

I though that Teamspeak can help...when the comander says: "-I need an At in Squad 6", you don´t need to think a lot.

If people wouldn´t mind that this feature remains is not he same thing as people Would like that this feature remains.

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

I though that Teamspeak can help...when the comander says: "-I need an At in Squad 6", you don´t need to think a lot.

If people wouldn´t mind that this feature remains is not he same thing as people Would like that this feature remains.

Why people spwan as medic then if there are 2 apc riding to a flag!!


You got your point about that!!

[Bubas]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Why people spwan as medic then if there are 2 apc riding to a flag!!


You got your point about that!!

Maybe some problem with cleaning their ears .

[Maxor127]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

I think it's an exploit too and I wouldn't mind if it was taken care of. Me and my brother do it and it kind of bothers me when other people in our squad aren't smart enough to do it, but it's pretty lame and unrealistic and isn't what squads are intended for... but if they did "fix" it, I bet there would be 10 new problems so maybe just leave it alone...

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

I think it's an exploit too and I wouldn't mind if it was taken care of. Me and my brother do it and it kind of bothers me when other people in our squad aren't smart enough to do it, but it's pretty lame and unrealistic and isn't what squads are intended for... but if they did "fix" it, I bet there would be 10 new problems so maybe just leave it alone...

do you know what unrealistic is?

tanks spwaning mid-air

[WarGimp]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Going by your logic;

What makes sniping valid?

Because it can be done?

Because you like it?

Because all the cool kids are doing it these days?

I happen to think sniping is the lamest tactic in the game, however unlike you and all the other whinny children in this thread, I live with it. I don't use it, but I'm not going to moan and b*tch about someone else using it.

Dude... that's just a lame debate tactic. Look up "straw man" sometime.

Sniping (and plane/chopper/tank use) is part of the game and implemented as mechanics. Squad hoping is an artifact of a real for real bug that was not intended.

Fun trivia fact, that ability to join squads while you're dead was a bug that simply stayed as a feature. It was never intended to let people join and leave a squad simply to spawn. (I think this sometimes occurs, you can't seem to spawn on your squad leader while dead.)

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showpost.php?p=730903&postcount=26

There's a big difference.

Futher, I've taken pains to explain my reasoning in a clear, logical manor. I do use it from time to time, but I feel that the game could be improved by adressing this issue.

Above and beyond that, I am NOT whining about it. I'm participating in a discussion about the mechanics of the game. If you can't tell the differance, you need to stop posting because you are adding nothing to this community.

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Dude... that's just a lame debate tactic. Look up "straw man" sometime.

Sniping (and plane/chopper/tank use) is part of the game and implemented as mechanics. Squad hoping is an artifact of a real for real bug that was not intended.

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showpost.php?p=730903&postcount=26

There's a big difference.

Futher, I've taken pains to explain my reasoning in a clear, logical manor. I do use it from time to time, but I feel that the game could be improved by adressing this issue.

Above and beyond that, I am NOT whining about it. I'm participating in a discussion about the mechanics of the game. If you can't tell the differance, you need to stop posting because you are adding nothing to this community.

Yes yes....
adressing this issue.?

Your adressing issue not me or him, your issue with it
you have the problem. not me or him....

and you are the whning part you know, because you post about something, what was bug, but now is a feature!

[MrBrown]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

OMFG my old thread has exploded, YAY

ALL "pro squadhopping" postings can be divided into the following two categories:

Category 1: "You just whine because you are afraid to lose!!!11"
These are the people who don't care about gameplay but only about their own advantage. They cannot imagine that someone else is NOT thinking about his personal advantage but about gameplay, so no matter what you say, they'll accuse you of being afraid to lose.

Category 2: "Uhmm... I like the fast pace and... people had to walk MILES if you removed it!"
Well these are some real arguments at least, but they're still wrong.
Those people are unable to seperate between proper usage of the squadsystem and exploiting it. They don't seem to see the fact that you could STILL spawn on your squadleader, it's just that you have to decide who should take that role, instead of that dull "the last one surviving is always the squadleader" cycling tactics.

There are much more vehicles than in BF1942, the vehicles are faster, AND you can STILL spawn on your squadleader even without cycling. It's absolutely ridicolous to say that "walking long ways" would still be a problem in BF2 (as it was in BF1942) with squadcycling being removed.

[WarGimp]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

You missed Catagory 3:
The incohearent rambling of the (apparently) semi-retarded kid who is unable to make a single valid point and would server mankind best by becoming a Darwin Award nominee (and thus improving the overall average IQ of the species). Yeah, I'm talking about Terroser, obviously.
:p

Back on topic: Let's flip the argument on it's head for a moment. Can anyone suggest why it would be a BAD thing to remove the ability to squad hop? There hasn't really been a valid reason for keeping it around posted yet... other than the fact that it's a good way to support non-teamwork orianted play.

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

You missed Catagory 3:
The incohearent rambling of the (apparently) semi-retarded kid who is unable to make a single valid point and would server mankind best by becoming a Darwin Award nominee (and thus improving the overall average IQ of the species). Yeah, I'm talking about Terroser, obviously.
:p

Back on topic: Let's flip the argument on it's head for a moment. Can anyone suggest why it would be a BAD thing to remove the ability to squad hop? There hasn't really been a valid reason for keeping it around posted yet... other than the fact that it's a good way to support non-teamwork orianted play.

Yes because everthying people say against you guys, don't make it valid. anymore

The only thing I canne say as my last words!

It was a bug, now it's a feature

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

OMFG my old thread has exploded, YAY

ALL "pro squadhopping" postings can be divided into the following two categories:

Category 1: "You just whine because you are afraid to lose!!!11"
These are the people who don't care about gameplay but only about their own advantage. They cannot imagine that someone else is NOT thinking about his personal advantage but about gameplay, so no matter what you say, they'll accuse you of being afraid to lose.

Category 2: "Uhmm... I like the fast pace and... people had to walk MILES if you removed it!"
Well these are some real arguments at least, but they're still wrong.
Those people are unable to seperate between proper usage of the squadsystem and exploiting it. They don't seem to see the fact that you could STILL spawn on your squadleader, it's just that you have to decide who should take that role, instead of that dull "the last one surviving is always the squadleader" cycling tactics.

There are much more vehicles than in BF1942, the vehicles are faster, AND you can STILL spawn on your squadleader even without cycling. It's absolutely ridicolous to say that "walking long ways" would still be a problem in BF2 (as it was in BF1942) with squadcycling being removed.

I'm not afraid to lose because it's game.

and vehicles is much faster. Duh it's the year 2006 man..
Category 1:Are you afraid to play the game because people use such tacktick?

Category 2: That is what you think!
not me or somebody else

[MrBrown]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Category 1:Are you afraid to play the game because people use such tacktick?

Oh my.... as we can see, Terroser does not even TRY not to fall into category one, again accusing me of being afraid of losing.

Category 2: That is what you think!
not me or somebody else

Well I explained why BF2 is fast enough and that squadleader spawning alone - without cycling - would be far enough.

No it's up to the "fast pace" people to explain where the "long ways" in BF2 are and why they end up standing alone in the base in a clanwar so that they have to walk - sounds like very bad planning to me...

[WarGimp]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

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[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

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ahah nothing to say anymore because it's now a feature instead a bug :laugh: