Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

[vbl]

Given the nature of "special operations" in general, the presence armor in SF (of lack thereof) and the configuration of the SF maps, it seems to me that choosing two anti-tank attack helicopters was a patently stupid idea.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to include smaller, more agile choppers along the lines of the Little Bird or the Gazelle?

Anyone who plays SF regularly feel the same way?

[PBAsydney]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

Dual rotors anyone?

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-50.htm

[AFEDslayer]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

i agree! though i do love the apache, look forward to the littlebird in desert conflict! that helis is my baby i love that thing.

[vbl]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

Dual rotors anyone?
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-50.htm

I'm not sure that the KA-50 is any better of a choice. Having anti-tank aircraft in an infantry-focused game is a little, ah, dumb.

[AFEDslayer]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

Dual rotors anyone?
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-50.htm

i loved that heli in bfv: poe!

[PBAsydney]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

What about hind E? It has got fixed canons, good for strafing.

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

ie you want something that kills infanty even easier? :S

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

I agree with you in that the Apache should've never been put in. But since EA did it any way, they shoulda done it right (on top of a laundry list of other things).

The Apache's main gun really stinks - it's 30mm cannon, which is vitually the same as the Havoc, has a splash effect almost equal to tiny 20mm cannon of the Cobra. You need almost a direct shot to kill someone and it's also difficult to destroy armor with those supposed depleted uranium rounds.

How do you like them apples?:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/30mm.htm

[Warbird_7]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

Man, it's a Hind. The fact that it's a Russian product is more than enough motivation for me. Check my avatar and my sig for cryin' out loud!

[WarGimp]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

Dooooooooode!
I'm a big fan of Little Birds.
I seriously wish they'd been included... and yeah, I think they would have made a better design choice.

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

Man, it's a Hind. The fact that it's a Russian product is more than enough motivation for me. Check my avatar and my sig for cryin' out loud!

I'm a big fan of Russian equipment (heavily disappointed with Russian small arms and heavy arms (or lack thereof) in SF) - but they also did manage to screw up the Hind - you can't transport troops on the Hind - what's up with that?

[EEzEY]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

yeh but the little bird has little/no armour (in real life anyway)so can you imagine if you put an accurate model of it in sf,you could take it down with a two second burst of a .50 cal.

[vbl]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

yeh but the little bird has little/no armour (in real life anyway)so can you imagine if you put an accurate model of it in sf,you could take it down with a two second burst of a .50 cal.

It's small and fast - anyone who has tried to shooting a sprinting Medic knows that there are other ways to avoid damage besides just good armor.

And BF2 caters to fun before realism, so the small helicopters would probably have more armor than their real life counterparts really do.

[H1gh-Veloc1ty]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

It's small and fast - anyone who has tried to shooting a sprinting Medic knows that there are other ways to avoid damage besides just good armor.

And BF2 caters to fun before realism, so the small helicopters would probably have more armor than their real life counterparts really do.

Little bird would be deadly with twin vulcan cannons and a twin rocket tubes. Would be nearly impossible to shoot down with its nimbleness and speed.

Sounds like a great mod. (maybe desert conflict?)

[WarGimp]

Re: Apache and Hind were ridiculous choices for new vehicles in SF...

I've seen it in a couple mods already.
Project Reality has one... and it's fun ta fly.