BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

[scott123]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

Mashtur City is one great map with one huge flaw. If a team can coordinate with the blackhawk (or even the MEC chopper) they pretty much shut down the map, capp all the flags and end the session. I don't know if this is the solution, but I'd seriously consider removing choppers from this map entirely.

I believe this map is much like Karkand, and if choppers were allowed there, you would have the same result. Choppers removed from Mashtur City would fix the issue and make it a lot more fun.

[Spr1ngY]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

I believe this map is much like Karkand, and if choppers were allowed there, you would have the same result..

I thin kthe streets are far too tight for a chopper to be effective... and with alot of accessible buildings and good hiding places on karkland i personally think both sides could make light work of any choppers.....:evil:

[FLIPINOM4D]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

HALO Jumps, also a commander can fly high in the map while like a spawn leader can just sit tehre so otehr guys can spawn and Halo jump

[Riggz]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

I love full blackhawks when I'm in the T90. Last time I played that map I shot down 4 full blackhawks...so satisfying. It's funny playing that map now. People in blackhawks won't bail out to cap flags so the pilot just hovers trying to get it himself and it makes for easy pickings. The blackhawk is best used just circling and killing infantry. Hovering = death.

[Mahoro]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

Getting some good comunication going and HUNTING that bird is the way to go.
If you've got a squad loaded to take it down (vodniks 'n ATs) you can do it fairly easily. If ya got a squad of talkers, you can spread out to find it, then converge for the kill. Works very well.

As a side bonus, you'll prolly win the map. The USMC team tends to get over reliant on Hawking. If they're constantly getting shot down, you'll own the ground.

Try it.

I doubt you can get any closer...
Those mini machine guns kill you in a shot or 2...

[193d Klink]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

I love full blackhawks when I'm in the T90. Last time I played that map I shot down 4 full blackhawks...so satisfying. It's funny playing that map now. People in blackhawks won't bail out to cap flags so the pilot just hovers trying to get it himself and it makes for easy pickings. The blackhawk is best used just circling and killing infantry. Hovering = death.

Yup, best Anti-Helo weapon in the game! (That or 2 .50 cals). Everytime I play this map I try to get the T-90 and then park it off to the side by the Flag that spawns it. This is the 2nd flag the BH usually goes after and BOOM! 6 kills for me =) I barely use the T-90 to attack flags on this map.

Another tactic is me and a friend will get in the Vodniks, and use the same tactic...sit off in a remote area with a nice view of a flag or 2 and light that BH up when it get's in our kill zone (The Kill Zone = Wait till it's about mid point of your line of sight and open up, there is no escape!)

Although the patch weakend the BH some it can still make a huge difference for the US Side on winning the map if the MEC side does not effectively defend against the BH.

[Kayback]

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My favourite passtime on Mashtuur is being an AT anti aircraft guy.

I've gotten seriously good at shooting heli's with the AT missile. If you lucky you can kill them, but mainly you use it to chase them away, or blat their occupants.

The best use of a Blakhawk I have EVER seen was other other day. I don't know how they organised it, but the americans spawned and about 5 guys hopped into the blackhawk.

THey then flew over backyard and mosque, curving back to powerstation. One guy jumped out at each location and as he hit the group his squad spawned on him.

It was fantastic.

In about 30 seconds they had most of the bases.

KBK

[Krpano]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

I always sit in a vodnik when that happens, the .50 cals are amazingly effective against choppers in that level.

Exactly.....last time i shot down a BH and got 5 kills at once.... :laugh:

[sknight]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

THey then flew over backyard and mosque, curving back to powerstation. One guy jumped out at each location and as he hit the group his squad spawned on him.

It was fantastic.

In about 30 seconds they had most of the bases.

KBK

Wow, that's a great use. Would take ALOT of communication seeing that most people won't wait for a BH to make it to a flag before they spawn. Must have been cool.

As for the topic, me and 2 other friends make it a point to get the BH on Mashtuur. It doesn't matter that you can't cap flags, b/c we stay in air and make sure our team gets all the flags. We all get lots of points for kills and assists and whatnot and we can jump in the back and repair if necessary. However, those 50 cals are great against the BH and the cause of most of our deaths other than usual silliness.

[193d DCAT1]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

2 vodniks > 1 blackhawk

[Kixfox]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

Hello.

My personal thoughts are that when you could capture flags fast with Blackhawks it was more fun because you had to run alot more and fight more on each of the flags.

You could focus on more flags, becuase now there is only one big fight at one of the flags... booring!

[stilla-killa]

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I've noticed less whoring since 1.0.3. No one cares about squad whoring the blackhawk anymore, I haven't noticed much medics or engineer and theres not that many points for them.

I've noticed its a 3 man crew, pilot, and 2 gunners that use it. Otherwise everyone else goes after armour or plays infranty.

i havent seen a difference in the medic scoring since the patch. i get the same number of points with the medic as i did before the patch. as i understand it u cant heal the same person over and over i think it is 5 times per player. but if u multiply that 5 times 16 on a 32 player map then thats a potential of 160 points right there.

[Ruhanga]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

YAAAWWWN, and this discussion has been already discussed about 123 and half times. Why can't just people shut up?

[Kayback]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

That is a good point. However I've noticed that Hummers and APC's play the role the Hawk's used to.

KBK

[c0n[s]tIx]

Re: BlackHawk@ Mashtur City

ohhh i remember da good old days when US kept BH whoring... me and a coupla mates wuld all go AT and hunt da BH down round after round... ive gotten so good with AT-rockets i can take the BH down in nearly all positions... gotta love seeing bodies tumble out the BH b4 it goes up in flames secs l8r