Whores Unite !!!!

[JimmyNoobtron]

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If I devoted my life to killing with the shock paddles, someone would call me a paddle whore. So matter what you are good at on this game, you will be called a whore. Just water off the back. Unfortunately, at this point, noone calls me a whore at anything. Dangit.

[BigBadBob]

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USMC just has a huge armor advantage, Karkand or not, so people are mad more at the game/level than you in specific.

But to be honest i see the MECS win more than the USMC, as all it takes is a decent engineer laying mines and a C4 or RPG'er to totally stop that armour getting past the hotel while the MECs then spawn rape the spawn points near the hotel.

Good anti armour players can win that map with ease. Just one engineer with mines can really mess up a good armour player. I also love to jump into a tank but I hate players who whine get out when you get into gun in the tank or APC.

I always shoot mines with my tank or apc, no matter who layed them. Makes them ineffective on all but the idiots.

[Warbird_7]

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2. An APC that feels it is a good idea to fire at me with its main gun...

Lets get two things straight:
1. If you shoot at my attack helo (beit HIND, Cobra, Apache, or Z10), the probability of you dying is extremely high.

I believe you don't exaggerate when you claim to have excellent skills in an attack helicopter.

Personally, as an infantry-oriented player, there is nothing cooler (to me) than having one of you guys be my guardian angel in the sky. I'll freely admit it, my butt has been saved by your kind more than once.

But more to the point: in reference to your 2nd example (the APC), I think you would find an amusing story about one such incident in the War Tales forum. Look for the thread titled, "Anthology of Battlefield experiences" and scroll down near the bottom of the first post to a story given to me by a friend. You might find it interesting.

[imported_Damanexor]

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I'm an anti tank kit whore.

How do you shoot tanks with the AT kit?

I prefer mining places with an Engineers outfit. Blew up about 5 boats on Sharki the other day by mining the ramps :)

KBK

Shoot the tanks on their treads from either the back or the front ... 2 hits turns a fresh tank into a destroyed wreck (1 hit if you use the TOW launcher).

Honestly I like using the AT kit on the helos -- can kill pilot & gunner if you can land the round on the cockpit glass.

[Mahoro]

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Shoot the tanks on their treads from either the back or the front ... 2 hits turns a fresh tank into a destroyed wreck (1 hit if you use the TOW launcher).

Honestly I like using the AT kit on the helos -- can kill pilot & gunner if you can land the round on the cockpit glass.

That's basically impossible to me...
Consider the maneuverability of a helo, is already impossible for me to use an anti- tank kit to go against w/

Stringer and sam sites, yes, or sometimes AA but not others....

[Donkey]

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I have no problem with tank whores, provided that they're not just stat-padding. Case in point, that APC/tank that stays on the left street at Karkand and kills everyone who spawns under the arch at the first flag. These guys usually make the case that they're "helping" their team, but they could be capping a back-flag instead to stop ticket-bleed. They just want to bolster their KDR, nothing more.

First off have you ever heard of something called suppressive fire????

Second, here is an idea DONT spawn there spawn at one of the many other spawn points as ooooooh say an AT and take him out...

Third, killing enemies does reduce the opposing teams' tickets....

[Digital-Boy]

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First off have you ever heard of something called suppressive fire????

Second, here is an idea DONT spawn there spawn at one of the many other spawn points as ooooooh say an AT and take him out...

Third, killing enemies does reduce the opposing teams' tickets....

Trying to justify the aforementioned example of "spawn-raping" by comparing it to a realistic strategy like suppressing fire is totally inane. Spawn-raping hardly constitutes a strategy; it's more like taking advantage (euphemism for "exploit") of Dice's colossal failure to put more than a handful of spawn points at each flag.

As for your second point, that is what I usually do. And if I'm in the round when it starts, the armor doesn't usually get the opportunity to camp the first flag because I've either mined off the left street or hit the thing with three AT missiles by that point.

And yes, killing enemies does reduce their ticket count, but the USMC's armor could be better spent breaking through the line and securing a flag than raping the first flag. I've seen the US team lose because they never captured a flag, all the while the M1A2 driver is camping the first flag, clearly unconcerned that his team is losing tickets faster than the enemy simply by virtue of ticket bleed.

[[UT]MajorHavoc]

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And yes, killing enemies does reduce their ticket count, but the USMC's armor could be better spent breaking through the line and securing a flag than raping the first flag. I've seen the US team lose because they never captured a flag, all the while the M1A2 driver is camping the first flag, clearly unconcerned that his team is losing tickets faster than the enemy simply by virtue of ticket bleed.

camping a flag just for kills without caring whether your team wins or loses is what a true tank whore does. i play almost exclusively in armor (mostly APCs) but my goal is winning (see my sig and don't even fvckin start about switching teams at the end, that's for cheap ass fags) and don't give me that $hit that armor on karkand has a huge advantage. if your ass is being handed to you by armor, it's because all your dumbass teammates are too busy being medics boosting their scores. that's a basic flaw in the game design where there is no incentive to win and points are all that matter.

i have faced situations where there have been a squad of clan members with just AT kits who made it extremely difficult, if not impossible to penetrate with armor. learn to fvckin play as squads and as a team and then i'll bet there won't be all this bitching about armor having a huge advantage.

btw, nice post parish. fvckin pms'ing noobs never stop bitching.

[vbl]

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Occasionally I camp spawn points to suppress enemy spawns until/while my team turns the flag white. It's a logical choice, given that not doing it means allowing a steady flow of bad guys into the area, and the possible derailing of our flag capture.

If the enemies are really smart, they'll spawn somewhere else after 1-2 deaths anyway. If they're not smart and keep spawning in the same spot then it's their own fault.

That said, I think respawn points should be random within an area around the flag.

[Mitt3n]

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i just like running around zaping pplz to life/death with medic kit :)

...Im a whore with paddles flame me!!!!!

[Donkey]

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Trying to justify the aforementioned example of "spawn-raping" by comparing it to a realistic strategy like suppressing fire is totally inane. Spawn-raping hardly constitutes a strategy; it's more like taking advantage (euphemism for "exploit") of Dice's colossal failure to put more than a handful of spawn points at each flag.

As for your second point, that is what I usually do. And if I'm in the round when it starts, the armor doesn't usually get the opportunity to camp the first flag because I've either mined off the left street or hit the thing with three AT missiles by that point.

And yes, killing enemies does reduce their ticket count, but the USMC's armor could be better spent breaking through the line and securing a flag than raping the first flag. I've seen the US team lose because they never captured a flag, all the while the M1A2 driver is camping the first flag, clearly unconcerned that his team is losing tickets faster than the enemy simply by virtue of ticket bleed.

By sitting there firing upon the first flag he is using suppressive fire for his team mates to go and capture said flag...

I do not do this per se, however I will sit outside a flag and mow down the enemy until reinforcements arrive....Why is this smart well if you are far enough away they can not sneak up and destroy you without you seeing them first...A single person in a tank capturing a flag is not really team work, but a single person in a tank sitting back holding the enemy at bay while reinforcements arrive to capture the flag is teamwork and smart tanking...

But yeah I think any relativly smart person would know better than try to capture the first flag on karkand....yet you see people do it all the time....

[Digital-Boy]

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By sitting there firing upon the first flag he is using suppressive fire for his team mates to go and capture said flag...

I do not do this per se, however I will sit outside a flag and mow down the enemy until reinforcements arrive....Why is this smart well if you are far enough away they can not sneak up and destroy you without you seeing them first...A single person in a tank capturing a flag is not really team work, but a single person in a tank sitting back holding the enemy at bay while reinforcements arrive to capture the flag is teamwork and smart tanking...

Aye, if the USMC looks like they have a good chance of capping the first flag, then I'll forgive the tank-whore camping the left street. From my experiences, however, the number of times I've seen the USMC cap the first flag before any of the rear flags have been few and far between.

[Bob_the_Insane]

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Got to say, anyone who drives a tank up to a flag if there aren't a lot a friendlies around is simply asking to be C4'ed... I use the tank the way it is designed, to provide supporting fire so the infantry can move forward...

Personally I don't attack uncappable spawns (other than blowing up commnader assets or stealing vehicles). Everything else is good in my book as long as it's is not deterimental to your team...

[parish]

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Got to say, anyone who drives a tank up to a flag if there aren't a lot a friendlies around is simply asking to be C4'ed... I use the tank the way it is designed, to provide supporting fire so the infantry can move forward...

I take flags all day long by myself in a tank. I kill guys all day long that try to run up on me with C4. I do this either with or without support, but if I am in the tank, flags are being taken by me.

The only reason guys get away with C4 on a tank is because the guy in the tank does not understand the value of 3rd person view. You pull up to the flag, switch to 3rd person and keep an eye out. Someone comes running up behind you to C4 and you back over them. I do it all the time. A tank is faster than a person. If they come running up in front of you, pull backwards and kill them. It's so simple a tactic but hardly anyone uses it. If I am in a tank and get to a flag that I can't take from the tank, I get out, throw down a mine by the front and back treads, go in and take the flag. When someone grabs my tank to kill me, they hit the mines and die. I may not have the tank anymore, but I am alive and I have taken the flag.

You cannot win a round in this game being a lone wolf. You have to be a teamplayer. I don't need a tank to win, but if I am in one, you better run.

[vbl]

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I take flags all day long by myself in a tank. I kill guys all day long that try to run up on me with C4. I do this either with or without support, but if I am in the tank, flags are being taken by me.

The only reason guys get away with C4 on a tank is because the guy in the tank does not understand the value of 3rd person view. You pull up to the flag, switch to 3rd person and keep an eye out. Someone comes running up behind you to C4 and you back over them. I do it all the time. A tank is faster than a person. If they come running up in front of you, pull backwards and kill them. It's so simple a tactic but hardly anyone uses it. If I am in a tank and get to a flag that I can't take from the tank, I get out, throw down a mine by the front and back treads, go in and take the flag. When someone grabs my tank to kill me, they hit the mines and die. I may not have the tank anymore, but I am alive and I have taken the flag.

You cannot win a round in this game being a lone wolf. You have to be a teamplayer. I don't need a tank to win, but if I am in one, you better run.

Okay, the ego is too much. What servers do you usually play on? I'll have to teach you the lesson of Perseverance. (Hint: Scroll down to his Armor stats, and then look at his worst enemy)