Stupid helicopters!

[Smagma]

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Seeing as the Hind has 1300 Hitpoints, thats more than the TANKS BUT it has 2 heatobjects (what the missles track to)! The ground aa's in bf2 were worthless so SF isnt gona change it any because they're using BF2's ground AA's. The best way to avoid being raped by the helo's in SF is to learn to fly and RAPE everyone else! lol

[=DoG=Tango7]

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I don't know about anyone else but I find sniping chopper pilots easier in SF than in VBF2. In VBF2, while sniping, I usually have a ping at pilots with a hope and a prayer but have only killed two while in flight. I've been on SF only a few times and have already taken out three chopper pilots who were hovering around our bases Don't know if my aim is better or it's just easier to do. Great fun either way.

[Rambo_Matt[US]]

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we need hand held stingers like in the old DC mod.

[s|k]

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There are ****ing AA vehicles and AA guns all over the maps. Just point the thing at them, WAIT UNTIL THEY DROP THE FLARES, then shoot. DUH.

Also, if you're getting killed by helos a lot in around, go support, those light machine guns bring those suckers down with a hurry.

You know what the real issue is right? Nobody is using the vehicles right in SF, or they aren't used at all. All I see people do in Ghost Town is go after infantry with the AA guns. On Leviathon the AAV and LAV's just sit in the MEC base the entire round (except for the first few minutes).

[BigBadBob]

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Anyone got any tips?

quit whining about them. People are using the vehicles to the best they can in the game, and you are complaining.

Here's a tip: helos, tanks, apcs and other vehicles are meant to kill. You should be scared of them. Not run at them like you are superman. You should also know that a primary target for aircraft is enemy AA sites.

[MackTheKnifeAU]

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Unless one team has both helos, it's usually fine, but, if they do get both (def example is ghost town) it can become rapage. Ghost town can be really hard to take back the helo spawns (because they up on a friggen roof) so even if you shoot it down, unless you have a squad on the flag right then, they will usually respawn and get back in quickly.

The other one is Iron Gator, becaue the MEC can be locked onto from takeoff by the carrier gun, and if the MEC get stuck in the bottom, the Seals can rape and camp every way to get to the deck, and they win because they just rape everyone with the helo. Even worse if Seals get both helos.

[imported_routakiila]

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First you little whiners ruined sniping, now you are going to ruin helos. Go ahead, EA listenes you. All because of lazyness to learn something new.

[Bob_the_Insane]

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First you little whiners ruined sniping, now you are going to ruin helos. Go ahead, EA listenes you. All because of lazyness to learn something new.

Er, what??

I don't think anyone thinks helicopters are overpowered (at least I don't). They should be very dangerous, but given the infantry focus of the SF maps two enemy attack choppers is very unbalancing. The result of this is that on some maps all the fight will being over the flags controling the choppers...

Too put it simply some of the maps simply take too many opportunties to show off the new attack choppers...

[Bull_Hor]

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I think Choppers are a little over armored, not much. I also agree that you can shoot them down withh AA you just have to out think the pilot. I have been raped by helicopters many times. It is something you have to deal with and move on. If you keep spawning at the same base and keep getting killed thats nobodys fault but your own. If its your only base, then you better out smart the pilot and shoot him down. As previously mentioned, vehicle mounted .50 cals will take them down quite effectively.

[Alcorr]

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First of all, anti air missile code is buggy/terrible. It locks onto one target and says shoot and then the missiles go and hit your ally chopper and you get 10 teamkills and -40 its plain STUPID!

Second, even anti air firing shells/bullets is too ineffective, I just lit up this apache the other day, fired at it for maybe 10 seconds I even saw smoke come out of it and it just fired a few rockets and I die....wtf...

Ever chopper should be able to take only a few seconds of anti air fire and imo 1 missile should damage about 60%, the other one should do the same amout of dmg, that way if it repairs a bit it will still die, as opposed to how it is now....

Also, one rpg/anti tank shot should take down a chopper, I mean come on do you know how hard it is to even HIT a moving chopper with an unguided rpg......

Finally, a tank shell should just obliterate every chopper, but I see tanks hit blackhawks every day with tank shells and they just fly away and repair and come back....wtf...

[Bob_the_Insane]

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You know what this games needs, some nice Heavy MG emplacements... Dual 50cals on a pivot mount... That would give the aircraft something to think about...

[N2K]

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you all suck with a stinger, i shot down the only helo in that one map with the rebels, dude was owning everyone, so i shot him down then waited for it to spawn and took it

just gotta know when to shoot

[Bob_the_Insane]

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you all suck with a stinger, i shot down the only helo in that one map with the rebels, dude was owning everyone, so i shot him down then waited for it to spawn and took it

just gotta know when to shoot

Well if the stinger simply did not work at all there would be even more complaining... At the right range against an inexperienced pilot and a little luck (i.e. there is not a friendly aircraft anywhere nearby that the missile will cchase as a matter of preference) the stingers work fine and it is very satisfying when you do get a kill with them...

But if the pilot is good at manouvering and knows the map well it can be next to impossible to get them...

[deathdealerdoc]

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im still working on getting the hind hit points up but http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/hitpoints.php has the apache hit points. The hind is hella stronger. TOW direct hit only takes away 14 points on the hind vs 18 on all other choppers (on fire). Best spot to take down the choppers is the canopy.

[Ruhanga]

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What do you do when you hear a copter coming? You squize yourself into a cave like a true rebel/terrorist! Nobody forces you to spawn to the main deck of Iron Gator. The insides are quite comfy actually.