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  • JarEme

    #61
    Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

    Gameplay > Realism. You know that.

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    • Neat_Hedgehog

      #62
      Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

      I say that for the AA, don't just make them a little stronger, make there be more of them. Some of those settings are at fairly well fortified locations, where you would expect to have two, maybe three AA guns in a "nest." One alone is nearly worthless with the long reload times. It's too bad that ballistic AA is strictly limited to carriers, as well.

      They should also make it so that the pilot doesn't get a warning until a missle is fired at him, not just locking on to him.

      There's my 2 cents on AA, anyway.

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      • WarGimp

        #63
        Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

        AA fix suggestions got a serious working over here: http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41764

        Oh, on topic:
        This hardly looks like abandonment to me!
        :p
        HOWEVER: Don't hold your breath. I'm sure we'll see another patch and I always was. This one could (should) take awhile. The 1.03 patch was rushed in and look what happened. It wasn't exactly "solid" (yup, putting it lightly). I suspect that it was intended to just be a content patch, but since demand for fixes were so high they snuck some in without doing proper testing.

        We want them to take some time with this patch. We don't want them rushing into either semi-functional fixes that cause more issues OR hairbrained mechanics tweeks that could make play balance worse.

        Try to remember this in about (my guess) 3 months when is hasn't been released yet.

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        • Dethred

          #64
          Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

          Originally posted by JarEme
          Gameplay > Realism. You know that.
          Gameplay and realism go hand in hand. Hence the people biatching about bunnyhopping etc. Its not supposed to be completely realistic, but its definitely going in that direction since BF1942.

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          • ShadowWarrior18D

            #65
            Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

            Probably will be another lackluster patch,hope that EA Games proves me wrong this time around.

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            • BirdKiller
              Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 785

              #66
              Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

              Originally posted by Dethred
              Gameplay and realism go hand in hand. Hence the people biatching about bunnyhopping etc. Its not supposed to be completely realistic, but its definitely going in that direction since BF1942.
              All BF2 =/= (Gameplay = Realism)
              M95 =/= (Gameplay = Realism)
              Bunnyhop == (Gameplay = Realism)

              Gameplay and Realism does not go hand in hand when it comes to the damage of the M95. If DICE changes it to one shot one kill without any nerf in other parts of the gun that will restrict and limit this one-shot one kill feature, there will be some serious imbalance when it comes to infantry vs. snipers. More people will be using this gun more than the grenade launchers simply because the M95 will become the ultimate "point, click, and forget" weapon. Bunnyhopping is a different story, it's actually being "abused" by players to where its ridiculous (I have an different viewpoint of this). Therefore, just because one feature might change for the sake of realism and gameplay, that doesn't mean you can justify a change in another object in BF2 for the sake of realism and blindly believing thus, it'll improve gameplay.

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              • Strings9

                #67
                Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                Snipers should have to adjust their scopes like in real life. It is way too easy to snipe in this game. Don't get me wrong I do snipe quite often and have killed many, but It would be more challenging/fun for someone to have to adjust their scope through binos or something. This will make sure snipers have to find a nice hiding spot and not be able to pick off someone 5 feet away then move onto someone 150 ft away w/o even adjusting >.<

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                • 18Zulukiller
                  Member
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 1107

                  #68
                  Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                  Can i just add a word of warning here for all the people that want the AA improved and more AA placed around the map. The AA does need improving but not to much if they improve the AA alot maps like wake island will become unplayable for the usmc team. As you know yourselfs a well orginised chinese team on wake can be nearly impossible to beat give them improved AA and you wont even see the usmc team take a single flag.

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                  • Deez

                    #69
                    Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                    AA needs to be fixed, not improved. When you can shoot at a non moving chopper not even flaring from behind even then turn 90 degrees at a team chopper and hit it flaring. The way they Coded the AA is riduculas.
                    Especially trying to hit the J-10 flying on its 6 '0clock the thing doesnt even move, all heat sinking missle just go around it, no flares nothing. Shall i go on?

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                    • 18Zulukiller
                      Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 1107

                      #70
                      Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                      Originally posted by Deez
                      AA needs to be fixed, not improved. When you can shoot at a non moving chopper not even flaring from behind even then turn 90 degrees at a team chopper and hit it flaring. The way they Coded the AA is riduculas.
                      Especially trying to hit the J-10 flying on its 6 '0clock the thing doesnt even move, all heat sinking missle just go around it, no flares nothing. Shall i go on?
                      I completely understand what your saying there the whole team damge thing realy narks me aswell when you miss the enemy. But try playing the project reality mod on operation clean sweep (i think its that map) and youll see what im on about aswell AA thats too strong = a very bad thing for the usmc team.

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                      • Sneaky Assassin

                        #71
                        Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                        I hope they don't follow the community most of the morons said bunny hopping was worse than the red tag bug and crappy ground based AA. so we won't get anything fixed apart from not being able to jump.

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                        • rtgbs7k

                          #72
                          Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                          Has anyone heard about the ETA of this thing? Or is it many many many moons away....

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                          • FLIPINOM4D

                            #73
                            Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                            about time EA starts fixing its game

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                            • ptegan
                              Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 2666

                              #74
                              Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                              Originally posted by rtgbs7k
                              Has anyone heard about the ETA of this thing? Or is it many many many moons away....
                              Only a guess but I'd say about 2 months away? DiCE have said in intervews that it is very difficult to reproduce the red/blue bug and find the code that is at fault. To be honest though I haven't seen it since a couple of days after te 1.12 patch.

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                              • SQUiB

                                #75
                                Re: Yes, another patch is coming up

                                Originally posted by 18zulukiller
                                I completely understand what your saying there the whole team damge thing realy narks me aswell when you miss the enemy. But try playing the project reality mod on operation clean sweep (i think its that map) and youll see what im on about aswell AA thats too strong = a very bad thing for the usmc team.
                                There are ways to rebalance wake island if the AA gets fixed. APCs, more choppers, jet-skis and/or make the middle two spawns uncaptured at the start of a round. AA needs to be fixed and if they have to adjust other things as a result, so be it.

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