Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

[Harmor]

Can someone verify this for me.

1. I spawned as SpecOps
2. Enemy who killed me spawned as an Engineer
3. Enemy Engineer drops AT mines
4. Enemy Engineer kills me
5. Enemy Engineer picks up my kit (I now OWN the enemy AT mines)
6. My AT mines now TK my teammates

The above works for Claymores as well...

Is this a bug?

[Tehvon]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

I guess. I pick up my teammates specops kits if they already place c4 on a tank and then blow it up. I get points

[ptegan]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

Hmmm, never heard of this before as normally kits aren't swapped in that way. He picked up your SpecOps kit when you were dead but that shouldn't mean that you get his engineer kit.

Now if you were revived by a medic and picked up his old engineers kit then *maybe* you've found a bug, but for the mines to count as yours while dead???

[Harmor]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

Hmmm, never heard of this before as normally kits aren't swapped in that way. He picked up your SpecOps kit when you were dead but that shouldn't mean that you get his engineer kit.

Now if you were revived by a medic and picked up his old engineers kit then *maybe* you've found a bug, but for the mines to count as yours while dead???

That's what I thought...but I think if he does it before the 15 second respawn the AT mines are yours.

I respawned and was waiting for a helicopter to respawn and I get a message that I TK'ed a teammate (who of course punishes me). I figure out that it was an AT mine since that's what killed him he said over <TEAM>.

Am I wrong on this???

[ptegan]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

Well it's true that after you die as an engineer your mines stay put for about 15 seconds later. I'll have to test it later on but you may have found something.

You do realise though that if it's true we'll have to name the bug after you?

Harmor's Bug

[Bob_the_Insane]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

That is just funny... I don't think it was intentional, he had probably run out of mines and simply took your kit to have some weapons...

When someone takes your kit they give you theirs even if they are the enemy. If you get revivied then you have their kit. Mind you getting killed and then the enemy having enough time to take your kit mean that it is unlikey a medic will be close enough to revive you in time...

This could work both ways I expect, if you had killed him but run out of ammo so you picked up his kit then his mines would have been yours, and more so they would have stayed on the map because you are still alive!!

I think this is an "unintended consequence"...

[Munchies]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

When you are criticly wounded the closest kit to you becomes yours, if someone takes your kit his kit will become yours, since you cant be criticly wounded for more than 15 seconds its not an issue, but you can always come to the forums and cry about your ****ty luck :)

[ptegan]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

When you are criticly wounded the closest kit to you becomes yours

Are you sure? I would have thought that it only applied when a medic came to revive you. I can't see the server working out what the nearest kit was, assigning you that kit and then waiting to see if a medic comes along to apply it.

The fact that he was never revived and never 'swapped kits' is what seems strange to me.

[FLIPINOM4D]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

Can someone verify this for me.

1. I spawned as SpecOps
2. Enemy who killed me spawned as an Engineer
3. Enemy Engineer drops AT mines
4. Enemy Engineer kills me
5. Enemy Engineer picks up my kit (I now OWN the enemy AT mines)
6. My AT mines now TK my teammates

The above works for Claymores as well...

Is this a bug?

gotta check it out

[Flux_69]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

huh?...ok for the spec ops kit...lets say you place some c4 on a tank and then you get killed without blowing the tank...when you respawn and your kit is still laying on the ground, then you can pick it up and you can blow the tank....and i think that it works the same way for the engineer...come on ea would be stupid if they didnt make it this way....if you picked up the engi kit and then a enemy drives over them then the enemy, who left the engi kit, should get a TK...pointless IMO

[imported_DaDDeh]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

I had this happen yesterday I was medic and got killed a engineer picked up my kit and revived me (nice one :) ) I got his kit and then a Friendly (full) APC ran over his (now my mines) and I got the Tks and was kicked from the server.

[BeerStein]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

Not a bug really if you think about it.

You took his kit - you did not have to. He already placed the mines - they are not just going to instantly get the red skull and xbones since you grabbed his kit.

I think it is dumb that they stayed tied to the kit and not the player that dropped them though.

[Harmor]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

I had this happen yesterday I was medic and got killed a engineer picked up my kit and revived me (nice one :) ) I got his kit and then a Friendly (full) APC ran over his (now my mines) and I got the Tks and was kicked from the server.

But you were revived...I wasn't. I respawned and THEN got the TK message.

Since I was SpecOps my C4 couldn't have blown-up and killed a teammate after I respawned (I was waiting at the base alive when I got the TK message).

Now what's the chances that this is just a normal bug that assigned me the TK instead of someone else???

[Papi4baby]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

is not a bug it makes sence, like spec ops, if you plant c4 get kill and i pick up your kit, who has the detonator now??? hello and for the mines, well since you ahve the kit in reality you would probably mark the location, and the claymore the same.

[ptegan]

Re: Dirty little trick Engineers can do to the enemy...bug???

is not a bug it makes sence, like spec ops, if you plant c4 get kill and i pick up your kit, who has the detonator now??? hello and for the mines, well since you ahve the kit in reality you would probably mark the location, and the claymore the same.

Is anyone reading this thread? :)

He was SpecOps. He dies, killed by an engineer, and the engineer takes his kit.
When he respawns as a SpecOps again suddenly he gets tk's against him for laying mines.

That's not the way it normally should work.