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  • WarGimp

    #16
    Re: Support Unlock !

    Oh man...
    Once again, the PKM is more accurate than the SAW!

    I like hard facts 'n numbers over speculation:
    USMC M249 SAW------------------------------UNLOCK PKM
    Magazine Capacity: 200-----------------------Magazine Capacity: 100
    Magazines: 3----------------------------------Magazines: 3
    Rate of Fire: 900------------------------------Rate of Fire: 600
    Damage: 25-----------------------------------Damage: 45
    Fire Modes: Full Auto--------------------------Fire Modes: Full Auto
    Accuracy: Low--------------------------------Accuracy: Low
    Min Deviation: 0.8-----------------------------Min Deviation: 0.8
    Deviation Standing/Crouching/Prone: 2/1.5/0.8--Deviation Standing/Crouching/Prone: 2/1.5/0.8
    Deviation Added per Shot: 0.4(2.5)-------------Deviation Added per Shot: 0.4(0.8)
    Deviation Mod when Zoomed: 0.8---------------Deviation Mod when Zoomed: 0.8
    Recoil: 0.25/0.45------------------------------Recoil: 0.25/0.45
    Recoil Mod when Zoomed: 0.50----------------Recoil Mod when Zoomed: 0.50
    As you can see, the accuracy of the PKM vs the SAW is very close. About the only big differance is that the PKM has a much lower maximum deviation per shot, allowing you to go full auto for longer without lossing it's effectivness. It's also worth noting that since the PKM has a lower rate of fire, thoe penalties build more slowly as well.

    I've also seen it argued that the SAW does more damage per minute, but that's also wrong:
    SAW 900 rounds per minute X 25 = 22500
    PKM 600 rounds per minute X 45 = 27000

    Finally, something that isn't mentioned in the stats, but is worth thinking about is that the PKM has better penatration than the SAW. I've used my trusty PKM to cut down people on the other side of fences/walls more times than I care to confess.

    SO!
    If you play support, pick up the PKM.

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    • vbl

      #17
      Re: Support Unlock !

      Originally posted by Wargimp
      Oh man...
      Once again, the PKM is more accurate than the SAW!

      I like hard facts 'n numbers over speculation:


      As you can see, the accuracy of the PKM vs the SAW is very close. About the only big differance is that the PKM has a much lower maximum deviation per shot, allowing you to go full auto for longer without lossing it's effectivness. It's also worth noting that since the PKM has a lower rate of fire, thoe penalties build more slowly as well.

      I've also seen it argued that the SAW does more damage per minute, but that's also wrong:
      SAW 900 rounds per minute X 25 = 22500
      PKM 600 rounds per minute X 45 = 27000

      Finally, something that isn't mentioned in the stats, but is worth thinking about is that the PKM has better penatration than the SAW. I've used my trusty PKM to cut down people on the other side of fences/walls more times than I care to confess.

      SO!
      If you play support, pick up the PKM.
      Someone noted in another thread that BF2S/UBAR have incorrect information on the PKM - its firing rate is 450, not 600. I can't corroborate, but it'd be as easy as someone going in game and comparing ammunition consumption over time.

      EDIT: See sites below...




      I have always maintained that, for players who are capable of burst firing, the SAW/Type 95 are the better choices vs the PKM. Burst firing prevents the gun from getting into that higher maximum per-projectile deviation, while still putting a lot of bullets into the air. And when you're using a really inaccurate gun (i.e. any support gun), more bullets = better.

      The RPK-74 is popular because it strikes a very pleasant middle ground between accuracy, rate of fire, and damage. It's my personal choice.

      If you want more perspectives, there has been at least one other long-winded PKM discussion in recent memory.

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      • unlimitedmp

        #18
        Re: Support Unlock !

        I find that the RPK works better for me.

        "Someone noted in another thread that BF2S/UBAR have incorrect information on the PKM - its firing rate is 450, not 600. I can't corroborate, but it'd be as easy as someone going in game and comparing ammunition consumption over time."

        RPK certainly feels like it fires faster than the PKM.

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        • WarGimp

          #19
          Re: Support Unlock !

          My point is mostly that people who say the SAW or RPK is more accurate than the PKM are believing in/perpetuating a myth.

          However, taste does come into it. The fact that the SAW spreads more per shot can actually be a benifet if you are using it for spray and pray.

          My advice to the original poster:
          Since you've already unlocked it, play with it for awhile before chuckin it. I wasn't a big fan of the PKM when I first got it, but after some practice it just *clicked*. I was thunderstruck the first time I managed to take out a sniper off a rooftop while he was lining up on me. I had about the same reaction the first time I dropped a 5 man squad with one sustained burst.
          As a tip, when you are aiming for prone targets, shoot a little on the low side and let the recoil bring the weapon up. I find that the 3rd shot or so is usually on-target.
          Another advantage to the PKM is that even if you just clip someone, it's usealy enough to get you a damage assist.

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          • FLIPINOM4D

            #20
            Re: Support Unlock !

            PKM is a devistating weapon is use correctly

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            • jdrou
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              • Jul 2006
              • 1860

              #21
              Re: Support Unlock !

              Originally posted by FLIPINOMAD
              PKM is a devistating weapon is use correctly
              Sure, but many other weapons are MORE devastating if also used correctly.

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              • SomeDude

                #22
                Re: Support Unlock !

                Support Unlock!!! Vote For Pedro

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