TK punish is a good thing.

[SIRMERCSALOT]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

Im with molemann on this one!! I forgive all tk's unless they are OBVIOUSLY intentional.....The "TK punish system" is FLAWLESS, the only problem is it was designed for ADULTS......marinate on that...

[[3SA]D|Sgt.Colinloves]

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Wot is intentional??

Placing mines at all exits from a base can be seen as intentional.

TKing the same person 3 times in a row can be intentional

Yet both of the above can be untentional too. Mines for defending, of course. And the TKing in a row can be put down to the old RED bug.

To me, the only intentional TK, is on the battleship or another starting base, (at the start of the round) As I cant think of a reason where it would not.

[The Question]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

There are plenty of adults who act as children.
Have you all heard how many children play this game? I must have heard 20 young voices last week.

[machit70]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

Do some people have an automatic team kill punish on? I have set up claymores while sniping and some fool will run into them and as soon as he is killed I've been punished for team kill. How is this possible?

[jpardo]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

just punish everyone to make it fair...

blingo!

///sue who, me? yeah...sue everybody!\\\
-Jerky Boys

man, i hate getting punished, just like everyone. that's why i don't, ever. even if the bloke rains on my parade. server switches and quiting to play another game works wonders...

[SpeedyGonzales]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

Its the people that abuse it that make it a bad thing. After you get Teamkilled, check the whole situation to see if it was your fault you got killed. Were you supposed to be running over the guy's mines? I don't think so, so why are you punishing.

THINK BEFORE YOU PUNISH!

And the whole TK punish system will work fine.

Thanks for letting me rant.

you dont say...

[Molemann]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

No mate. Its -4 for a TK and then another -4 if they punish. So thats a big -8 in total

Oh Man!

That means that one time I only tk'ed one dude! I thought I somehow managed to wipeout an entire squad without realizing it!!

That makes me slightly more angry about the injustice of Punishing!

[JonnyMacFred102]

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Oh Man!

That means that one time I only tk'ed one dude! I thought I somehow managed to wipeout an either squad without realizing it!!

That makes me slightly more angry about the injustice of Punishing!

No it's -4 for TK and another -2 for punish. for a total of -6.

[pilote<tardif]

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No mate. Its -4 for a TK and then another -4 if they punish. So thats a big -8 in total.... A few of them can really upset ya game and score.

Ive taken the punishment oath. Never, ever bloody anything ever, punish!

you guys ingnore something!!!!!!! if your not sure dont tell it!
its -4 for a TK and nothing for a punish... punish only count for the number of punish allowed by a server... example 3punish allowed for this server in 1game and infinite round...3Tk = 3punish = -12 total not -24!!! :hmm:

[[3SA]D|Sgt.Colinloves]

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GOD !!!!

Its a -4 for a punish. Not a -2 or nothing. so in total you TK one person who likes to punish and you got a -8 on your score.

If it was only a -2 or nothing. Why is it that there are to many people angry about punishment?

* But take into account that some servers had TK punish off. But it still allows people to press the punish buttton and it will also show up as a message, but -4 (punish) wont be included.

[Teaves]

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Actually you are ALL wrong, the score loss is set by the server, most have it set at -4 for the TK and zero for the punish (the punish acts towards the server kick/ban. BUT i have played on MANY servers that set it to -2 & -2 or 0 & -2 AND even Zero for the TK and -4 for the punish. Its funny how many people are so unclear of this fact and yet moan about the punish anyway instead of finding a better server

Last night i played a match on dragon valley and got slammed into a mountain in my fully loaded Blackhawk right at the start by a noob enemy pilot, guess what score i had when i expected anything up to -20?? i was happy to see i only had -2 for my own "suicide" :laugh:

As for the actual topic of this thread, i disagree, i think the punish system is a terrible idea , any system which gives a pub player ANY admin control of a game server is always a bad thing, people (regardless of age) have shown time and time again they cannot be trusted to make a rational decision. Much the same if you give RCON to people that actually ASK for it, I 100% guarantee that any player that WANTS to be an admin enought to ask for the position is NOT capable of the position

This truly is a fact of online gaming, in 10 years (nearly) of controlling online servers, i have perhaps seen 20 people truly trustworthy to make any kick/ban decision FAIRLY and rationaly. Power corrupting is perhaps to blame much as is the fault with THIS punish system. By definition of you just being TK's makes it impossible to fairly evaluate why, when, how, etc.

I NEVER punish, not even when i am gunned down in the back for a jet (because i can of course kick/ban trouble makers) and still you really have no idea of what happened unless you use camera views. A silly example i know but what if the "TK'er" was actually suffering from the "IFF bug" what if he just got auto balanced and just didnt think about it long enough?

I will go out on a limb here and say EVERYONE that punished is guilty of griefing themselves, that after all is the only way to be sure others are doing it "it takes one to know one" is perhaps relevant here?

Short answer, leave admin'ing a server to admins and leave playing to the players This goes both ways of course, the worst admins are the ones that play and randomly kick people without knowing the facts but as these are ALL clan servers and not GSP pubs that they shouldnt bother too many people.

[[3SA]D|Sgt.Colinloves]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

NO, Im right :guns:

[x0pht]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

Actually you are ALL wrong, the score loss is set by the server, most have it set at -4 for the TK and zero for the punish (the punish acts towards the server kick/ban. BUT i have played on MANY servers that set it to -2 & -2 or 0 & -2 AND even Zero for the TK and -4 for the punish. Its funny how many people are so unclear of this fact and yet moan about the punish anyway instead of finding a better server

bingo! he's right.

[SupUnd]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

Its the people that abuse it that make it a bad thing. After you get Teamkilled, check the whole situation to see if it was your fault you got killed. Were you supposed to be running over the guy's mines? I don't think so, so why are you punishing.

THINK BEFORE YOU PUNISH!

And the whole TK punish system will work fine.

Thanks for letting me rant.

So what you're saying is a system designed to protect the fun of the game from numbskulls would work fine if there weren't any numbskulls?

[Teaves]

Re: TK punish is a good thing.

NO, Im right :guns:

Sorry bud but your not, my explanation is 100% correct, look it up for yourself and start a server up. the negative scoring is a variable like everything else (including how many "punishes" you need for a kick)

As i said before though, it boggles my mind how many people actually think like you do, thats its a hard-coded number. I wonder if now you all know, you will find a server that has ZERO for the TK and then have nothing to moan about... but probably not. after all wouldnt it be dull if we had nothing to complain about.......... (no) :laugh: