Stop Blaming the Commander

[DavidG64]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

I dont initiate mutinys just for getting down a little bit...

but I do; if I have been in the game for 10-15-20 minutes and
I get no UAVS or my supply requests go ignored.

9 out of 10 commanders I get are totally useless to their team..
UAV themselves only... supply themselves only.. and its so easy to
tell... watch the star on your minimap and if thats where the radar is
going all game, I start a mutiny..

Yup good reason for a mutiny. So long as the reason you are not getting UAV's and supplies is not because they are needed elsewhere.

It's too bad the commander points system could not be setup to discourage or make it useless for the commander to fight at the front and just use the command functions to help himself.

[Yonni]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

I usually dont see vote kicks unless the commander bombards his own team with arty to kill a few enemies. Even worse now that theres no penalty for being careless.

Yeah, I hate it. Can't believe they messed this up so bad :shakehead

[evilzucchini]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

One more time. . .

THERE IS STILL A PENALTY FOR BOMBING YOUR OWN TEAMMATES!!!

The commander STILL loses points. You just don't get punished. That's it. It isn't messed up.

[193d DCAT1]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

No, the commander goes to the person with the highest rank.
A higher rank does NOT necessarily mean he's a more skilled player than the others.

In fact an experienced commander may have a lower rank because he has spent so much time in command mode that his global score will not be as high as someone who never commands (all other things being equal).

[F-1]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

I found that the best thing is to COMPLETELY ignore those votes and harassments by the teammates. some teammates even where TKing me on purpose frequently so I can step down. To **** them off even more just stay and ignore them and keep playing... and when they tk you... punish

[imported_John-Paul]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

It's too bad the commander points system could not be setup to discourage or make it useless for the commander to fight at the front and just use the command functions to help himself.

I always thought the same thing. Those self-centred part-timers can be a huge burden on the team.

One idea, I suppose, would be to have something like a "Commitment Rating" -- a percentage figure that informs the team how committed the Commander is to using the assets and serving the team. For example, a 98% Commitment Rating would indicate that there is almost ALWAYS a UAV sweep in progress, Supplies are being dropped on a regular basis, the Scans are being used, etc. The rating could be shown alongside the Commander's name and / or be revealed when someone calls a Mutiny Vote. The lower the rating, the easier it is to kick the Commander (fewer votes required).

Just an idea, anyway ... I realise there's absolutely no chance in hell it would ever be implemented. I just really dislike those players who assume the role and then neglect to use the available assets.

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

I see and get mutiny votes all the time, they never work though.
What I hate the most is commanders who get in a tank or APC and sit at te base just to whore up their kill stats for badges or ribbons.
I usually scream over the channel whenever I see that, and almost everyone on both teams will then flame him for doing it lol, extremely gratifying. :)

[Krypp596]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

its all the "non-teamworking" squads who mess it up... not only the comander...

[Lt.Badger]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

One more time. . .

THERE IS STILL A PENALTY FOR BOMBING YOUR OWN TEAMMATES!!!

The commander STILL loses points. You just don't get punished. That's it. It isn't messed up.

That sounds good....is the difference then that punished TK's count toward a kick/ban # in the server??

[DavidG64]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

What I hate the most is commanders who get in a tank or APC and sit at te base just to whore up their kill stats for badges or ribbons.
I usually scream over the channel whenever I see that, and almost everyone on both teams will then flame him for doing it lol, extremely gratifying. :)

Are you sure this is the reason they are doing it? I ocasionally hop in an APC that no front line soldier seems to want to use. (i vacate it if my troops show up and want to take it) It has nothing to do with points or ribbons and everything to do with nailing those spec ops guys that come into blow up stuff. It also helps stop the commander being killed by those guys since it takes a couple shots to kill the apc so you hear it and get out of the commande screen.

[evilzucchini]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

That sounds good....is the difference then that punished TK's count toward a kick/ban # in the server??

Exactly. You lose the points, but you won't get banned for it. The only place where that could be a problem is if you have a commander who is being a punk and who doesn't care about their score intentionally killing people.

[mrking]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

...everything to do with nailing those spec ops guys that come into blow up stuff. It also helps stop the commander being killed by those guys since it takes a couple shots to kill the apc so you hear it and get out of the commande screen.

Exactly! Had to do this recently as noone ever took orders to defend the assets. which i can understand. I like to get into a large firefight rather than a cat and mouse chase.

OH, and why can I not post using Firefox?

[Dogness]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

Exactly. You lose the points, but you won't get banned for it. The only place where that could be a problem is if you have a commander who is being a punk and who doesn't care about their score intentionally killing people.

I am not sure this is correct. Just last night, I was working my ass off as commander to get a win as US on 64-player Sharqi. The score got down to about 70-50 with US in the lead. Our HQ was under attack with few/no defenders but me. I decided to drop arty in the courtyard. Next thing I know, I got kicked for too many TKs.

I assumed that as the arty fell a bunch of friendlies spawned in and got TKed and I got kicked.

[Vasquez]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

If our team is losing because the team sux I'll allways vote no.. only if it is my personal belief that our CO is a 12 year old with the syndrome of Down do I vote yes..

Actually, given some commanders, a 12yr old with downs syndrome might do better...

[jamie321]

Re: Stop Blaming the Commander

personally i think the artillery feature was a bad idea for the game , it would be far better if the commander was only able yo give uavs and supply drops and like in BFVietnam engineers were able to fire mortars and there were controllable artillery positions. The artillery basically gives the commander the power to kill anybody anywhere . sound a bit unfair? does to me
but anyway thats just my opinion