No penalty for engineer mine TK?

[a1pointguard]

Re: No penalty for engineer mine TK?

Just don't play engineer? who needs them?

[donpost]

Re: No penalty for engineer mine TK?

Interesting mine story:

Was playing Wake Island today, and decided to give Engineer a bash. I laid mines on the road leading from the Chinese Airfield, to the North Village (Think that's what it's called).

Anyway, I see a friendly jeep go past, heading for my mines. I expect the worst, but no, he saw them and drove right past. Two more jeeps and a tank did the same. I was amazed! So amazed that I actually took the time to thank each driver for avoiding my mines.

My opinion is, the mine-layer should lose no points for a teammate running over his/her mines. However, friendlies should be damaged by them. Having people immune to friendly mines wouldn't be too cool, as idiot who drive into friendly mines should have some kind of punishment dealt upon them

[Jungles]

Re: No penalty for engineer mine TK?

Whenever I lay mines, I have more friendlies driving over them than the enemy. And that's not because of poor placement, etc.

Example 1: Snuck into an enemy airfield, and laid a mind on a jet fighter sitting in a hangar. Another player from my team who was following me, jumps into the jet, is blown up, and punishes me for TK.

Example 2: Placed a mine at two entraces to a flag in Gulf of Oman, the most likely entraces for the enemy approach. There were still two other entraces facing friendly flags that weren't mined. Some guy in my team comes whizzing in a FAV and gets blown up. Punished again.

Example 3: Placed a series of mines on a popular road in Dragon Valley, under the shades of some trees. Quite difficult to see for the enemy tank approaching around 300 metres away, but the skull icons should have give away the mines to any friendly units. Wide spaces on either side of the road to enable friendly vehicles to drive past. A friendly player in an APC runs over my mines, killing two other friendly players. Two of them punish me.

Example 4: Fighting to capture an enemy airfield in Dragon Valley. Went behind the enemy players and placed a mine on each runway (both enemy jets in the hangar) before getting killed. Our team captures the flag 30 seconds later later, and a friendly APC decides to drive from the flag all the way to the runway, and plonk himself on top of my [still active] mine. Punished again.

This is not about bad mine placement. But rather, about players who refuse to use their eyes to avoid friendly mines. There are plenty of visual cues to indicate the presence of mines, and the skull icons show exactly where these mines are. They're not hard to avoid.

I enjoy playing all the classes in BF2, but the Engineer class seems to be the most unfairly designed class. Repair points are hard to get, and the engineer's unique weapon (the AT mine) produces more TKs and punishments than any other weapon in the game. If mine TKs have to result in losing points, at least they should not be punishable.

[BravoTwoZeroUK]

Re: No penalty for engineer mine TK?

Allowing engineers to get away with terrible mine placement would be a very bad thing. They trap friendly vehicles too much as it is right now.

No they don't!!!! Use a nade on them and your through.
The punish system ********! Total accident TKs and you still get punished it ****es me off why should I be kicked from server because of some mentally handicapped mong child who thinks landmines aren't dangerous it's a ****in joke

[imported_Dr.D]

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Mines are crap now that they can explode it ****es me off so much

Edit: You can't say P.I.S.S? What the!?