Wake up people

[DLWebmaestro96]

Re: Wake up people

Sometimes it seems like the smacktards think the big red bull's eye is what they're being told to attack.

[Mr. ADHD]

Re: Wake up people

Look if you're playing for points...I can respect that....but it's a team sport this BF2...and if your friendlies are dumb enough to run into arty they deserve to be killed and for playing with them you deserve the -2.

Besides, I don't think anyone runs into arty on purpose...at least you won't get booted.

Not true, you will still get -2 points for tks just no punish points. Plus if you play to win, I hate killing my own guys because of their stupidity.

[Arqentus]

Re: Wake up people

Even more nerve wrecking, is when you need to perform a artillery strike on a spot thats going to be overrun. You have 1 or 2 guys left on the location, and the enemy is attacking with 4 or more men ( combined with armor ). Standard militairy tactics is to shell a target thats going to be overrun.

You mark the Artillery spot. You yell out at the people to move there ass out of range or find cover. No, they just keep waiting to a) be shot by the enemy who has a 95% chance of taking over the spot & killing the defenders b) just stay put in the open ( when they can protect themself ), and wait to get blown up by the artillery.

And then they act all ****ed off becouse they ignored there commanders orders ( and / or dident check there rader & text ).

The commander is only usefull for a) uav's b) a-strikes when nobody's around c) supply's d) spotting enemys. Dont even think about using the commander as a "commander", and giving orders. If your lucky, one or 2 squads lissen, but widout the backing of the rest of the people, those squads can do only so little ...

Problem is, to many people with little to no expierence are commanders, so in the end, even if people lissen, they just end up with somebody who doesent have a faintest idear how to run a battle. So, when people who actually do know how a battle needs to be done, they end up ignored...

And lets face it, the commander request system sucks. O you are a stats whore, and have 20.000 points. Sinds you have higher rank, that means you must be better at commanding then everybody else .... *sigh* Or, you gave 20.000 point done with hard work fighting people, doesent mean you know how to actually lead other men in battle. That private may be a better leader then you are, but then again, thats the army for ya

[spyderfenix2006]

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happens to me all the time and i tell them not to punish if you get killed by the ART and what do they do, They punish, that makes me really mad when people do that.

I have a question, when you punish or dont punish you will still get minus points, what the difference, Im guessing that it wont go no the record

[pilote<tardif]

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You just need to learn timing...or not even use arty at all. On packed servers, most times you are better off not to use arty at all. Too many TK's and not enough enemy kills to make it worth while.

At least in the new patch you will not get punished for those TK's - but your team will still lose tickets and they will all get registered deaths.

very well said...exactly my tought, so the comander should not ARTY his teamate cuz he will lose the game even so.

[ConscriptVirus]

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but (not saying that i do this) its always more dramatic to run into full combat and having artillery rain down on u and u dodging it..

[imported_Got Your Back]

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Even more nerve wrecking, is when you need to perform a artillery strike on a spot thats going to be overrun. You have 1 or 2 guys left on the location, and the enemy is attacking with 4 or more men ( combined with armor ). Standard militairy tactics is to shell a target thats going to be overrun.
Ummmm!! What military branch are you in? Foreign? This is a game right? In real life they don't have scans that show little red blips & most always the Artillary strikes are called in from the ground units in that area. And they know to be out of range when they do call it in.

You mark the Artillery spot. You yell out at the people to move there ass out of range or find cover. No, they just keep waiting to a) be shot by the enemy who has a 95% chance of taking over the spot & killing the defenders b) just stay put in the open ( when they can protect themself ), and wait to get blown up by the artillery.
Ye of so little faith! Run a UAV for them or spot the targets manually for them. If the blue dots disappear on the map, then call it in.

And then they act all ****ed off becouse they ignored there commanders orders ( and / or dident check there rader & text ).

The commander is only usefull for a) uav's b) a-strikes when nobody's around c) supply's d) spotting enemys. Dont even think about using the commander as a "commander", and giving orders. If your lucky, one or 2 squads lissen, but widout the backing of the rest of the people, those squads can do only so little ...

Problem is, to many people with little to no expierence are commanders, so in the end, even if people lissen, they just end up with somebody who doesent have a faintest idear how to run a battle. So, when people who actually do know how a battle needs to be done, they end up ignored...

And lets face it, the commander request system sucks. O you are a stats whore, and have 20.000 points. Sinds you have higher rank, that means you must be better at commanding then everybody else .... *sigh* Or, you gave 20.000 point done with hard work fighting people, doesent mean you know how to actually lead other men in battle. That private may be a better leader then you are, but then again, thats the army for ya

I can tell by your post that you WILL be one of them that takes full advantage of the NO TK punish in the patch. Sheeeeesh!!!

[imported_BaronViolence]

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For commanders who don't want to arty me...

1. Give me orders, preferably by voice. It's a pain to run across half the map, and then have the big flashing arty sign on the flag I'm about to capture with my squad.

2. Arty is not ideally used on the front lines. Arty is to cut off reinforcements or strike the enemy behind the lines. Take away the enemy's vehicles, especially that BH spawn point.

I know lots of people will say to me, hey, you got your warning on the map. Thing is, if I'm in the middle of a firefight, I don't always notice flashing arty symbols, kick votes, and other things that don't have to do with shooting the other guys before they shoot me - or sticking C4 to that tank.

On the other hand, go ahead and clobber me if it helps the team and I'm not paying attention.

Finally, when playing Kubra Dam and the lower flag is being lost - arty will not help save it. Those guys have cover. I know as a REMF, you may not know up from down, commander, but trust me.

[imported_Ares]

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It makes me angry that people will run into my arty, but not as much as it ****es me off that someone will puish for it, it not like its my fault. If there is one guy in the area of four people taking a flag and I arty it then it would be my fault and I would expect to get punished, but if you move into the area of my arty and punish me, that just makes me leave the server, not from being banned but for being tired of noob punishers.

[jdogg88-Fed]

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i hate when ppl go to my artty they dont pay attetion at all even after its told to em over and over

[imported_Got Your Back]

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I hear ya! All the auto punishing, noob nading from 2 ft away, Bunny hopping prone freaks, disrespectful potty-mouth, hackin, cheating idiots wanna make me just unplug my modem!

[Guidon666]

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I got my 1st kick for TKing the other day. Area was full of enemy... No friendlies. Launch an arty strike because all other concentrated enemy areas had friendly people in them. After the guns fire... 1 lonely BH flies into the area. At 1st I was simply shaking my head about the dumb guy flying into the arty strike... then I thought "What are the chances of him getting hit?" I see enemy walk away from arty all the time.

Boom.

Guidon666 <teamkills> X1
Guidon666 <teamkills> X2
Guidon666 <teamkills> X3
Guidon666 <teamkills> X4
Guidon666 <teamkills> X5

and the follwong 5x Punishes for it.

(Names changed to protect the stupid and stupid's passengers)

followed by the Kicked for excessive tk.

[imported_Gue]

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I want a icon at the right of screen for arty warning you like the skull for mines.
Perhaps I'm stupid but I DON'T always notice when artillery is striking in. This icon would be the first warning which leads u to check minimap and move away from the artillery spot. Nobody likes to get hit by artillery specially not from own damn commander.