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  • scatterbrain

    #1

    Squad leader tactics

    I'm sure by now everybody knows that a cohesive squad is by far the
    most devasating weapon in BF2. But while being an effective squad
    member is not that difficult, being a successful squad leader is much
    harder. As a SM, you can afford to take big risks (i.e. charge out in
    front of an enemy tank to revive someone as medic), since if you die
    you can just spawn back to your SL and be right back in the action. But
    as SL, you have to be more careful - not only b/c you have to respawn
    at a control point, but b/c if you die (and are not revived) your squad
    is effectively "decapitated" and will lose all momentum and give the
    enemy a chance to regroup.

    As such, I have found that playing as SL requires very different
    tactics from playing as a SM. Here are 4 basic pointers on being an
    effective SL:

    1. BE CAREFUL - don't rush at every oppertunity to get a kill, and
    don't hesitate to retreat if the situation takes a turn for the worse;
    and use cover whenever possible. just remember that you will get a
    higher score by playing coservatively and not dying rather than by
    playing CS-style and madly charging into the fray every time.

    2. Stay back - keep a good amount of distance between yourself and
    areas of intense fighting. Also, always have an escape route in the
    back of your mind in case you suddenly become overwhelmed or enemy arty
    starts falling on your head

    3. communicate with your commander - as SL, you will be the only one
    who can send requests directly to the commander. Asking for supplies
    and UAVs are the most practical requests to make, as they recharge the
    fastest. But of course it doesn't hurt to request arty if you see an
    area where it could make a difference. [sidenote: Of course trying to
    work with a n00b commander can be frusterating, but it is worth at
    least making an effort b/c if your commander happens to be good you
    will really be able to tear sh*t up.]

    4. give your squad orders - this can be helpful to keep everyone on the
    same page and directed towards the same goal. Obviously you are
    powerless to make your squad members work together if they are intent
    on being lone wolfs, but giving orders at least lets everyone know
    where you are headed and reduces the likelyhood of people wandering
    off.

    5. Stay out of vehicles!!!! There is nothing I hate more than seeing the leader of a 6-man squad flying around in a plane or helicopter when they could be leading their squad on the ground. If you are SL and suddenly feel the urge to hop in a J-10 or a Mi-28, then please kindly step down as SL so someone else can fill the role

    One last thing to remember is that certain kits will be better suited
    to following these basic guidelines. Personally I find medic to be the
    best (since you can heal yourself & therefore stay alive longer and
    also have a decent long-range weapon), but I have seen some great SLs
    who always go SF/AT.

    PS - I know a lot of this is obvious to most people; but leading a squad is not as easy as it may seem and 99% of the SL's i have seen have absolutely no idea what they are doing.
  • Catch28

    #2
    Re: Squad leader tactics

    nice tips

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    • crossmaxxx

      #3
      Re: Squad leader tactics

      That was posted somewhere else: Call you squad something like TEAMWORK, VOIP, HEADSET. People who know how to play the game will know the place to go when entering the server then. Worked very nicely for me yesterday.

      Although I must admit that, when following the above rules strictly, your own score will eventually not get as high as the score of your SM's... Staying in the back means getting into firefights less -> less kills. It means also being careful when capturing a flag (maybe even staying out of the flag range to avoid a mass squad kill due to an artillery strike) -> less teamplay points. But nonetheless, playing that way gives you way more satisfaction than any other playing style.

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      • PBAsydney

        #4
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        Some people say that a SL as sniper is useless, its not true, you can get in position on a good spot near the enemy flag, and your SM's can spawn on you and rush the flag as much as they get killed while having sniper cover from you.

        Assault, Anti Tank and support is also good for squad leaders since they have armor.

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        • HABO3

          #5
          Re: Squad leader tactics

          I always name my custom squad Hot Gay Guys, that way everyone wants to join my squad

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          • SierraHotel

            #6
            Re: Squad leader tactics

            Good tips, I think those are the definite basics that people can agree on.

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            • Hattrik57

              #7
              Re: Squad leader tactics

              Great tips!
              One thing I would like to add to your thread if i may...
              One item that is overlooked {beside being able to spawn on SL} is the ability to
              Comunicate via your mic {voip} Speaking to teammates real time beats typing to them!
              EX: I repaired a tank and got in. The driver went to take a flag ,he says "watch our rear" as were sitting there. hearing that simple statement made me realize just how deadly the squad can be! Our squad went on to score 238 points that round!
              Kudos cigaro!

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              • ConscriptVirus
                Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 6369

                #8
                Re: Squad leader tactics

                tahnks..i hate those squad leaders who fly jets all day and cant give orders cuz if they do for like a second..theyll die

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                • ttopi

                  #9
                  Re: Squad leader tactics

                  Originally posted by ConscriptVirus
                  tahnks..i hate those squad leaders who fly jets all day and cant give orders cuz if they do for like a second..theyll die
                  Bomber/helo pilots usually fly as a squad leader. Why?

                  1. You can speak with your co-pilot through VoIP.
                  2. Co-pilot can spawn next to you.

                  You can always join other squads or make your own if your SL is a pilot. It's not pilots fault if you join his squad.

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                  • vulcan

                    #10
                    Re: Squad leader tactics

                    Originally posted by ttopi
                    You can always join other squads or make your own if your SL is a pilot. It's not pilots fault if you join his squad.
                    Always pays to check out the squads available, before you make a decision to join one, just to see who's doing what.

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                    • perry

                      #11
                      Re: Squad leader tactics

                      Originally posted by ttopi
                      Bomber/helo pilots usually fly as a squad leader. Why?

                      1. You can speak with your co-pilot through VoIP.
                      2. Co-pilot can spawn next to you.

                      You can always join other squads or make your own if your SL is a pilot. It's not pilots fault if you join his squad.
                      Or the other pilot can join the squad, and the pilots in the 2 jets can talk to each other.. "J-10 on my tail", "Lets get that tank at the SW flag", "AA gun up north is active". That's teamwork that you don't see on ranked servers though -- too many jackasses TKing each other for the planes. If the planes and/or choppers are all in use by an air squad, the commander can make better use of them..

                      SL to CO: "Squad 3 needs a chopper to take out a pair of APCs"
                      CO to ChopperSL: Go here to take out a couple APCs <sets waypoint>

                      And boom, two tanks down, squad 3 takes the flag much easier. When people cooperate it is a thing of beauty. I did it tonight attacking the CP on the beach by the river on Oman. We came in from the warehouse, my guys saw two APCs and spotted them, told the CO about em, chopper came in and flew em up. We got the flag. Without that air support, we wouldn't have had a chance.

                      I've tried making a squad and inviting my copilot when I fly with the same guy for more than one death on a normal, ranked server.. Half the time they ignore the invite even though I name the squad "BOMBER" or "ATTCKHELO", other half they don't have VOIP so we can't talk..

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                      • =JiM foxtrot=

                        #12
                        Re: Squad leader tactics

                        Originally posted by CIGAR0
                        As a SM, you can afford to take big risks (i.e. charge out in
                        front of an enemy tank to revive someone as medic), since if you die
                        you can just spawn back to your SL and be right back in the action. But
                        as SL, you have to be more careful - not only b/c you have to respawn
                        at a control point, but b/c if you die (and are not revived) your squad
                        is effectively "decapitated" and will lose all momentum and give the
                        enemy a chance to regroup.
                        Exactly as I feel when I'm SL, I see fearless SM and I'm behind a wall trying to survive while only killing when I can see a reasonable chance.

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                        • [29ID]B|Pvt.Mickd
                          Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 138

                          #13
                          Re: Squad leader tactics

                          One good tactic (and its not blackhawk whoring in the strict sense) is that the SL is the pilot of a BH. They fly over a base and HALO jump out leaving a pilot and two gunners (or just the pilot) for cover circling. If the guys die then the they spawn in the chopper again and just keep bailing out until the flag is clear. Then land pick up the guys and off to the next flag. The same goes if another squad needs help at another flag. It means the pressure is kept up constantly plus the SL is relativly safe. Its sooooo disorentating just seening these guys raining down on the flag. We use this tactic extensivly in our tournament since the points are of no concequnce

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                          • [F2G:melon#shot]

                            #14
                            Re: Squad leader tactics

                            Originally posted by HABO3
                            I always name my custom squad Hot Gay Guys, that way everyone wants to join my squad
                            ahahaha this is the number 1 tip of the thread

                            on a serious note nice tips, theres nothing i hate more than not being able to spawn on the SL because hes in a vehicle

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                            • ArcLight27

                              #15
                              Re: Squad leader tactics

                              Originally posted by crossmaxxx
                              That was posted somewhere else: Call you squad something like TEAMWORK, VOIP, HEADSET. People who know how to play the game will know the place to go when entering the server then. Worked very nicely for me yesterday.

                              Although I must admit that, when following the above rules strictly, your own score will eventually not get as high as the score of your SM's... Staying in the back means getting into firefights less -> less kills. It means also being careful when capturing a flag (maybe even staying out of the flag range to avoid a mass squad kill due to an artillery strike) -> less teamplay points. But nonetheless, playing that way gives you way more satisfaction than any other playing style.
                              Hold on a tick, his tips are dead on! Being squad leader devoids you of "lone Wolf" points, but the team overall will be in the top 10 everytime. And playing medic as a squad leader you get mad team points. Being squad leader isn't about getting gold, it's about the team winning! And personally, I think it's funner to be in a good squad losing the game, then it is to be lone wolf and winning.

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