Sniping.

[Sgt. York]

Re: Sniping.

Another thing to consider, which I don't think was brought up in this thread, is that your accuracy may depend on your ping and the ping of your opponent. FPS will also play a role in how accurate your shots are.
...or maybe I'm wrong? It just seems that when my ping is round 20, I can't miss...

[goaliemike]

Re: Sniping.

...or maybe I'm wrong? It just seems that when my ping is round 20, I can't miss...

True, wou dont have any lag, or a late response to the server that will lg you eventually.

But if you have been seen dont try to snipe the guy, run for a while to some diffrent spot, ive killed many snipers that will try to snipe me cuz i saw them.

[Blak_Phoenix]

Re: Sniping.

Instead of lying at a certain location, the sniper will advance together with a squad. Just follow your squad in a distance of about 50 m and keep out of sight as good as possible. Always ensure, that you have a good view on the way your squad is advancing on. If the squad faces enemies, go prone at once and start to pick out the greatest threat, such as Medics and AT-Soldiers or even gunners of vehicle mounted guns. It is absolutely crucial, that you use either the M 95, or one of the semiautomatic sniperguns, if the M 95 hasn't been unlocked yet, because the M 95 deals a huge amount of damage, so your teammates only need one more shot to take the enemy out. On the other hand, the autosnipers are fast enough, to shoot 2 or 3 shots with high accuracy within one or two seconds.

This is and excelent point, i have tried this many times and it wors great. Andothe advantage of this is if your the squad leader, it allows your squad members to spawn near you, which is slightly out of the battle, letting them regroup and enter again with more of a indea of what to do. Ofcourse the down side is when they spawn on you it may give away yourt possition, so keep this in mind and move around a bit to throw anyone of your possition.

I would also add that if you choose to use this tactic, then also make good use of your commander. This may seem obvious, but if your squad is getting beaten on their attack, you as a sniper and the squad leader can retreat slightly, find a good spot and the call on supplies, your squad then has a possition, that is well defended, by your sniping and that has ammo and health when they need it.

As a sniper i have also noticed that it can be very handy to be the commander, your skils of seeking ouyt people and guessing the intenions are very valuable within a team and they can be ut to great use. If you have a mic, great, use this to your advantage and make sure to tell your team where that AT or those tanks are, so they can keep away or organise a team to blast em.

So go out there and kick @ss

Hope this has helped, and thx to Div for the tactic!

[Paas]

Re: Sniping.

Yah i doubted there was any bullet drop at all, until me and my friends where doing some 2 on 2 sniping on Kubra, and I started to notice my shots where landing below my target, so I aimed a bit up, and got a hit.

I dont know the exact mesure of the bullet drop, but i do know that at about 500 meters with the M95 shooting a level target, you must use the first bar below the center of the crosshair to hit(as you can see in my video i was almost lined up with the first bar, just slightly above but thats because the target was only 400 meters away).

And as far as the M95's deviation goes, it doesnt play much of a factor in the rifles accuracy. That rifle can consistently hit targets at 600 meters with the correct judgement of the drop, and thats a range most people would consider sniping to be impossible at, so the rifle is very capable at sniping long range, its just the bullet drop that makes it seem inaccurate.

See, I agree that there is bullet drop for most of the .50 cal weapons in the game. But! The thing that erks me about the m95 is that it's perfectly capable of missing shots within' a 150m radius.

You can go prone, wait, wait, your target is dead still, you count to two, pull the trigger. Nothing. I don't run into that problem with the SVD, M24, or Type-88...

So, I guess what I'm saying is the deviation=bulletdrop therom is probably moot. Otherwise the M95 should be almost 100% accuracte in a range of 300m.

{WP}Paas

[Weally]

Re: Sniping.

Some tips I generally use when I snipe.

I know people say theres no bullet time but i'd like to disagree. For example have you ever shot someone at close range an the yellow cross in the middle comes on straight away to let you know you got a hit? Then you shoot someome far away an the yellow cross takes a split second longer to come on. It isnt a long time but it is noticable.

Anyway back to tips.

I've binded a key to fire besides my mouse button. I did this as I thought sometimes I might udge the mouse slightly whjich would be enough to move my scope. I aimed and use my alt fire key an I was fragging more than ever. I found I dont really nudge my mouse but this still worked so I've kept it.

Put sens really low. Mine is on 20 which allows me to make smaller movements which is vital in long range shots. A sens to high would make your aim swing too much an you would need more hand control to control it. This tip might not be for everyone as you all probably have your own sens liking.

It might sound stupid but every sniper has lost a target they've followed for ages at some point. Whether they run into a building or into greenary, over a hill, into a base etc. This i'd like to say takes skill or memory rather. Learn the maps you play, find out all places most people go through/use to get to capture points. FOr example you see someone run into a base, A small building is blocking your sight from the target. Now think which direction was he going before you lost sight, Was he running? walking? Now most of the time if someone is runnin in a directon before you lose sight he will carry on in that direction. What I mean is look ahead of that direction and find the exits he can get through. Once you found the exits in the targets area try an find a spot you can look at where you can see all the exits. IF you wait, more than likely the target pops out of one of the exits then you can proceed to follow him again. This might be basic stuff but once you get good at scoping an area out and finding every possible exit you will get better. Nothings more satifying
for a sniper to follow a target an he goes out of sight just to appear where you predicted he would an take him out .

If someone is coming close to you and you have your sniper rifle out, In my opinion take a shot at him with your rifle first. I know alot of people would take out their pistol to try an kill them but If your good with the rifle take a shot as it will take more hp then take your pistol out.

A part of being a sniper is to let your side know enemy activity. I know some of you might be tired/bored of calling out enemy targets but it helps. Say you spot a tank while a squad is heading in its direction but they see it on the map as you've called it. It makes all the difference on getting that one flag and helping your side. I also believe we need to do some protecting at times lol. Like if your just outside a base an a teammate runs in. Scope the place out let him get the flag. If you see any enemies call them out so he knows (Dont forget to try an take some out if they get too close). I also call out enemy spotted when I see a grenade near a teammate. Might sone stupid but if your teammate turns round after then notices the grenade he has a chance to evade, slim chance but better than nothing. Do this with mines an c4 aswell. Also call our snipers when you can. Usually if you do, sniper lovers will go an hunt him down.

This would I dont think many people realise. Dont move so much as a sniper. I've had countless people run right passed me in light just prone in grass. It's weird but it works. I think its because you have to take so much in visually you dont really look at anything in detail. If you move however your model moves and the enemy can see the movement. If you dont believe this is true, make a server and use battlerecorder. Go find some grass/bush to hide in. Now once your there stay still for abit. After a min start moving body slightly. like adjusting you position. Stop recording. Open up your recorded file an zoom out when your model is in position. At a distance theres nothing you can really see but when you start moving you can see visible movement from a distance.

Sniping a group. If you see a group of enemies dont just start shooting at anyone of them. Think which is most valuable to the group. If they have a medic then take him out first as he can revive everyone else you take out. Nothings more annoying killing the same person 3 times because a medic keeps reviving him lol. It is important because you waste ammo. If they have a sniper on the other hand take him out first. If you take out the anyone else an they have a good sniper, he will virtually know your position an what rifle you have. If they have both then do it in order but be quick so the medic cant revive. Once you taken these targetrs out a group is virtually useless as the odd's are in your favour. You have better accuracy/hit rate, You will know there position but they will not always know your's. Also they have no way to be revived .

Use sound. Get some decent headphones, turn off music and crank up sound effects. When you do this you can hear a tank coming from miles away. Also helps to hear people sneaking up on you. The biggest benefit is for finding snipers. When you hear a sniper fire and you can get a rough idea of where they are. Once you get this you can go an hunt him down. The more he fires the better "reading" you will get. It's good for listening for vehicles aswell. You hear a buggy an you can hear which direction its coming from. Check the map, it aint one of your sides. You know which road its coming down so you can stick a claaymore on the road side ready to take the driver out. All useful
advantages of sound.

Another useful thing of using sound id you can judge the rough distance to a target. Say a sniper fires at you but misses. but you hear the bullet fly past but no sniper fire. Chances are he is quite far away so you have a better chance of evading/dodging shots. If you do hear the sniper fire then obviously you can get a rough idea of distance by how loud the sound was.

If you have the M95 one way to help your teammates is to take out anything blackhawk related. Say you have one spawn point left an everyone is spawning and a black hawk comes in with trigger happy gunners. Rather than try an take the pilot out, take a gunner out. I find it alot easier to take gunners out than the pilot. This helps the side as the heli has one less minigun to play with which in turn means more of your side survive. Leave the
heli owning to the now survivng AT's.

Anyway just some tips have more but i'm sure most people wont know what im talkin about :S

[ttopi]

Re: Sniping.

Anyway just some tips have more but i'm sure most people wont know what im talkin about :S

Oh, just dish them out, brother. You make very good points there.

[goaliemike]

Re: Sniping.

By default the game sets the graphics responsibly to your hardware. Now i have a AMD XP 2000+, rad 9200se and 1GB of ram. The game sets al at low and textures at medium. Here is one incovenient it also sets your view distance way down to 75%. If you need to, i did put all the settings to low and make sure that view distance is at 100% unless of sourse you could afford the better hardware . I found that boosting at 100% gives me so much more kills because i could easily find and one hit those enemies. Also use that minimap, i think its v and it resises the minimap to 3 diffrent settings, witch is useful to see if its on your team or not.

[Kadorn]

Re: Sniping.

I'd like to introduce a new tactic concerning the use of the sniperclass:

As far as I've seen, snipers have been lying around on some sniping spots, taking out enemy troops, that came into their sight. This is a quite good tactic if you are defending a flag, but if your team advances to cap another one, your position will very likely be useless and you won't be able to support your team anymore. With this problem on my mind, I started to develop a new tactic, which I'd like to present here:

Instead of lying at a certain location, the sniper will advance together with a squad. Just follow your squad in a distance of about 50 m and keep out of sight as good as possible. Always ensure, that you have a good view on the way your squad is advancing on. If the squad faces enemies, go prone at once and start to pick out the greatest threat, such as Medics and AT-Soldiers or even gunners of vehicle mounted guns. It is absolutely crucial, that you use either the M 95, or one of the semiautomatic sniperguns, if the M 95 hasn't been unlocked yet, because the M 95 deals a huge amount of damage, so your teammates only need one more shot to take the enemy out. On the other hand, the autosnipers are fast enough, to shoot 2 or 3 shots with high accuracy within one or two seconds.

If you follow these instructions above, you really support your squad and make it a lot easier for them, to take out enemy positions. You could even act as squadleader, since your position is a bit distant from the front fighting, just as it is supposed to be, when acting as a squadleader.

Well, that's all, I am really looking forward to reading your comments and hope you try this tactic out. And pleasy excuse my bad english, but I'm from Germany.

Usually when I play sniper on Strike At KArkand I do exactly, I have saved the lives of many an ambush squad mate and countless of teamates, often they hardly notice. IF you back up your squad often the enemy will lie down to get a better shot at your advancing teammates, then you take them out.

I also find people who sneak up on teamates often stand still to get a better shot, then you shoot and often you can save the life of a teamate and sometimes they never realise. Also on try to hit moving targets, wait for them to go into your cross hair, on strike at karkand often engineers or spec ops will got out quickly and place mines/ c4 often they run out and if your a good shot/ lucky you can take a shot while they are running out to place mines/ c4 and snipe them in the head.

[HellzxFluffyBunny]

Re: Sniping.

Folks need to start posting pics of thier fav camping spots.

[SIKSOCOM]

Re: Sniping.

Folks need to start posting pics of thier fav camping spots.

I hardly goto the same spots more then once. Usually when I leave a spot I do it when I know that the enemy knows im there. I booby trap the **** out of it with claymores so people think I'm still in there and move to etheir watch the building I was in or move completely. Less of a flag capture and more of a harassment role. On a 32 player Mashtur City I managed to rack up a score of 97 with maybe 1 or 2 capture assist. I ran out of ammo several times...

Oh ya... Remember, the smart people you pick off won't spawn at the flag your sniping to with a short range kit, then try to rush you. They will spawn at a different spot (sometimes FAR as hell away) as sniper and wait for the perfect shot. I once on Mashtur city had a guy go all the way from his helo spawn, down that huge hill (USMC controlled the 2nd MEC flag) to just above where their artillery is -- to snipe me sitting on the roof of the building near the middle flag by the bridge.

[ttopi]

Re: Sniping.

Folks need to start posting pics of thier fav camping spots.

That's a negative. We don't want knifekillers after us...

[Fishbone77]

Re: Sniping.

When playing a map with water and boats try the following.

Be a sniper in a boat. pick a nice place on the water. Take a seat on the boat (no gunner seat/no "driver seat") and snipe away at the bases on the shore.

when they finally figure out where you're shooting from, you can get out of there easily using the speed of the boat.

[Drevor]

Re: Sniping.

When playing a map with water and boats try the following.

Be a sniper in a boat. pick a nice place on the water. Take a seat on the boat (no gunner seat/no "driver seat") and snipe away at the bases on the shore.

when they finally figure out where you're shooting from, you can get out of there easily using the speed of the boat.

... usually you should be dead instantly since you are a perfect prey for any plane/chopper ...

[Fishbone77]

Re: Sniping.

... usually you should be dead instantly since you are a perfect prey for any plane/chopper ...

In most maps you get covered by the aircraft carrier behind you.
A chopper wil go for a blackhawk and or the people on deck instead of a boat with 1 person on it.

[Weally]

Re: Sniping.

Ok a few more ttopi.

Back to group's, if they have none of the above classes I mentioned then frag the guy in the back of the squad. This helps as most of the time the rest of the group will not notice an carry on running. Just think how funny it would be when the guy at the front get's to his position a no ones with him as you just picked them all off lol. Doesnt work all the time but useful sometimes.

Use claymores carefully. Even though you get the red skull an bones over it some people are immune to it for some reason an decide to run into your claymore so be careful. Example your the only one at a flag point, you know theres no one around but you decide to put some claymores down in the buildings incase somone spawns while your capping. Although it sounds logical, most of the time you will cap the flag an then you are left with 1 or 2 claymores haning around your new own base..... teammate spawns boom, then another, boom then comes along tk punish woohoo.

The only time I use claymores is when a buggy is on the road coming my way or ive been found and running away but I leave a claymore along my path so if anyone trys to track me they run into it. Remember claymores have a certain amount of time to activate so dont throw one asoon as somone comes round as it will not go off. Make sure you leave it along your path where it will take then a good few seconds to reach.

Take your time. Snipers arent built for close combat. If your the kind that wants to be an all out action man then sniper kit aint for you. What I mean is take that extra effort to reach a good sniping spot, walk that extra 200m's to go around a hill where you suspect a sniper is. Trust me when you've been walking round for awhile and find that perfect spot and take your target out, theres nothing better.

Try not too be seen. Might sound simple but I dont mean go find a hole and camp there for the whole round. Move around and use the map to keep you hidden when moving. Crouch under low walls, cross a road at its shortest point, Try and hop from one field full of tree's to the next etc.

Evade a sniper. Tricky one this as a good sniper will probably find you no matter what. If you happen to be a target of a sniper and he misses (Thank you God) Run. Sniper's can run for ages so use it. Go crazy if you have to like zig zag, jump, crouch, jump an dive, just be unpredictable. You might look like a freak but hey it keeps you alive. Also dont run into a building if you know the sniper can cover all the exits. Say you run in, theres only 2 exits an if you we're lucky enough to hear the shot an know which direction it came from you will know if he can cover all the exit's or not. Never pop your head out of the windows either.

Sniper vs Tank/AA/APC. Even if you have the M95 you aint taking out any of these killing machines. The best thing to do when one comes along is to hide.
If you get caught off guard an a tank is right in your face then try an get close an go prone (make sure he cant drive into your path) This forces the driver to adjust his position. When he does this it gives you a small window to get away. When he repositions, either follow him then prone again or if theres lower ground go lower. The lower you are the less chance he can hit you as the turret can only go so far down. Same above aswell, if your on a second level in a building an his turret can reach you, try an go higher so he has to back away to re-aim.

How I scope a place out. Usually i'll find a nice spot then i'll scan ground level. if there are no targets I go up a level, say to a buildings window an scan across in a line. After that I scan the top level like rooftops etc. Doing it this way you hardly miss a thing an you get to see everything instead of doing random scopes into windows, a rooftop here an there.

Use your map. Its vital you put good use to the map and get used to zooming
(default is n). Whenever i join a server I always zoom the map out so you can see most of the map. This helps because if anyone calls out a target you have better chance of seeing it on your map. This is good for when people spot snipers as they are usually on the border of maps etc. Once you get closer to the target thats been spotted, Zoom in an you will get a better picture of where the target is. When you get even closer zoom in once more, an if someone calls it out again you will virtually know the position because the map is zoomed in close an you have the reading. Just like to note that in the far zoom you cannot see unused vehicles, only when an enemy exits one. If your sniping a base relatively close then go for middle zoom, Its big enough to show you the base and it shows you all the vehicles (if any) so if anyone decides to spawn there an cant be bothered running to another point, atleast you know what vehicles he can take. Help's if theres only one buggy so you can just aim at the seat an wait for him to jump in as they will go for the vehicle most of the time.

When an enemy is near do not call out targets/medic/need ammo! etc as they will hear you.

Whenever im on the move I always move with my pistol out. I dont know if this has any benefit but I know its smaller than my rifle so it means people will see less. Might not be much less to look at but every little helps. This is also true for like when your hiding around a corner but you dont take into account that the rifle hangs out. It also helps incase you run into any enemies all of a suddern. I only get my rifle out when ive found my spot.

Use cover properly. What I mean by this is i've seen many people hide in a bush but half their body sticks out like a sore thumb which basically renders their cover useless. As a sniper the rifle is long so get behind the bush. Even if the bush starts to obscure your sight just get behind it an look at what you can. It's better to be hidden an to be able to see part of your sight instead of being in the open and being able to see everywhere.

I'm sure ive read someones post where they said be creative when you look for a snipe spot. Well I got to agree there. If possible dont snipe from rooftops, If you must then make sure theres obstacles on the roof. Like if you see one of them box things with the vent coming out the side going down, Snipe through thr hoop between the box an vent. This gives you more cover an it's hard to see you as they have to look carefully through a gap between a vent an box thing from god knows how far away. Never snipe from crane's either. For one its obvious (to me anyway) and 2 it takes time to climb up an your exposed. I know some snipers like to snipe from a certain level on the crane as most people will look right at the top for a sniper but this doesnt help either. A good sniper will check the top then check every level for possible snipe spots. Also dont think your safe when proning at the top. Ive sniped someone out through the metal sheeting on the top level with the M95.

Try under a bridge where its dark near the corner how many people think to look there? When looking for a good spot I usually look for places I can snipe through. What I mean is say a hole, through a gap in a wall, thru one of them bashed up cars windows. I create a frame if you like. This gives me cover from the front an less chance of being seen.

Try an stay low if you can. If your heading in some direction an you have to go over a hill, go around it instead dont make an appearance for everyone becuase you went over the hill.

Be aware of your enviroment. I remember once I had my m95 an there were 2 targets right near an oil barrell so I shot it an killed them both. It was funny but made me realise theres the enviroment to play with aswell. Only takes one shot from the m95 btw to blow up barrells etc.

Try not to find a sniper spot in open grass, It might be long but if a sniper scopes in from a distance the grass wont be rendered but you certainly.

If you have been sniped and you dont know where it came from, never go back to that spot again until you find him. I've killed people an seen them go back to the same spot because they think its a good spot...

Remember relocate, relocate, relocate? Well the only time I relocate is if I know my target has seen me. If they have I will still try an take them out an after I do, I will move then but I will leave a claymore where I was. This is good for a few reasons. If you know its a good sniping spot eventually another sniper will too and when they find your 2nd hand spot they get a little suprise for finding it. It also helps as the the person you just killed is probably lookin for you an will do a quick scan over your position when they spawn. It's funny watching the person you just fragged, come looking for you only to find a claymore.

Cant think of anymore atm but I got an engie tip lol. I dont know if this works online but in single player instead of throwing a mine down when you see a tank (you know when you try an throw one behind incase he decides to reverse into it) Throw it onto the tank. I did this on single player an when the tank moved ( no matter what direction) the mine would eventually slide off an detonate. This might be handy so you dont have to predict where the tanks going to move and you dont have to throw as many mines down to make sure he drives over one.