Any jet dogfighting tips/tricks?

[machstem]

Re: Any jet dogfighting tips/tricks?

Thanks for the input.

1 shot on tank eh? I know if you hit a tank on the bottom, in the backside, you almost always get full damage, or enough to get him to get out of the vehicle, but I've yet to actually see it happen.

As for the jets, can you classify them in order, maybe mark the pros and cons to each? I'm not too familiar with any of them.

I agree, the same goes with my helicopter skills. I can strafe away from a AA missile almost instantly with a transport helicopter, rather than be shot down and give the enemy 4-5kills on us, it's just a matter of practice.

Thanks again

PEACE

[IVfluids]

Re: Any jet dogfighting tips/tricks?

I'll give you my seat of the pants feel, and then some crap from testing lol. In case you haven't noticed already, the higher you go up in the atmosphere, the faster you go, but the worse you turn.

Speed (Fighter):
J10
F18-JSF
MiG

Speed (Bomber):
SU30
F15
SU34

Turning (Fighter):
J10
JSF
F18
MiG

Turning (Bomber):
SU30
SU34
F15

Speed on paper is kind of funny. I did this just for you and sheer humour, some suprising results. I always felt that some maps just did not feel the same and couldn't put my finger on it, and that goes for speed and ceilings, this kind of reaffirms my gut instinct. Not all maps are the same for speed at the same hieghts on different maps. I flew all jets at 300 units in hieght and then after I flew that height for a bit, I recorded the speed and then did the same with the afterburner. I have the jets sorted out by type and what map I hit the speeds on, so you can kind of cross reference and get an idea from there of how they stack up to each other.

First speed listed is cruising half the map at 300 units, second speed is afterburner peak at 300 units for half the sprint bar.

JSF Oman
1100
1430

JSF Dalian
1240
1640

JSF Zatar
1100
1450

F18 Daqing
1190
1450

F18 Kubra
1100
1310

F15 Daqing
1170
1410

F15 CleanSweep
1080
1280

J10 Daqing
1220
1460

J10 Dalian
1240
1490

SU30 Daqing
1190
1450

SU34 Oman
1040
1240

SU34 CleanSweep
1050
1250

MiG Oman
1100
1300

Mig Kubra
1130
1340

Mig Zatar
1110
1330

I still feel that the J10 is faster than the JSF because I can always catch up to the JSF while in the J10 when both of us hit the after burner. I feel that the Mig, JSF and F18 are so close to each other that there isn't too much of an advantage/disadvantage to using any of them against each other. On the other hand, the J10 seems to have a very huge advantage over the other jets, which is why alot of people like to use it. Maybe the J10 really isn't faster than the JSF and it just feels faster because it is alot more agile than the other jets, guess I will have to do a drag race with akaNE and those two jets and find out for a fact.

[IIGotSkittlesII]

Re: Any jet dogfighting tips/tricks?

this is very useful. Thanks guys

[NoToRiOuSmInUtE]

Re: Any jet dogfighting tips/tricks?

i just began flying about 2 days ago and Ive been watching ALOT before i started. Watching helped me learn what i know now. i dont mean to be concieted or nothing yes iam a noob but if u want check my stats u might be impressed for a noob pilot like me.:laugh:

[Riggz]

Re: Any jet dogfighting tips/tricks?

It seems like everytime I get into a dogfight and lose the person I battled has some smack talk. Then I look at their score at the end and think..wow..u didn't do sh_t to help your team.

[(CB4)akaNE!]

Re: Any jet dogfighting tips/tricks?

Listen to IVfluids. He is a wise man.

Not to mention, one helluva pilot.

As for me, there is no way that I could explain to you how I fly. I just do it. And that comes from spending (wasting?) way to much time in the planes in Desert Combat and now, BF2.

There is one tip that I can share with you though. No matter how good you are (or think you are anyways ), there will always be someone better than you. So don't get too discouraged.

Have fun! :)

[Baseline]

Re: Any jet dogfighting tips/tricks?

If you seem to be crashing a lot, then you need to fly higher more often, and use more BNZ (boom n zoom) tactics, meaning you dive in for your kills/dogfights, and then you go back up high. This is a great tactic that great pilots regularly employ. More often in '42, but still a top tactic in bf2.