The M95 is a total piece of sh1t

[MackTheKnifeAU]

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I unlocked it a few days ago, first round score 90 points and gold. But that was in karkand with a lot of claymore kills.

I find it's terrible compared to the M24, I NEVER get the headshots I do with the M24, and still need to shoot someone twice, and I never seem to hit anyone if they are prone. Plus the M24 is quicker, a tonne more accurate and longer range.

I don't think i "wasted" my unlock, considering the only unlock I cared about was the DAO12 (and got that first), but it should have it's accuraccy fixed.

I really don't mind not having 1 shot kills (we know what the AWP can do to CS games), but I find the lack of accuraccy disturbing for a weapon that is supposed to shoot over 2 thousand meters.

It has to be made distincitve and usefull, it should have it's accuraccy improved, and made 1 shot kill against non-armoured personell. It should'nt be M24 accurate (for game balance), but I should be able to hit somone my crosshairs are over.

DLWebmaestro96 : Around early High School (around 96) it WAS jewish as a negative, now replaced by gay.

[unknownman_007]

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So apparently not hiring military consultants can be added to the list of things that tells one's sexual orientation.

Any added words Doctor Phill?

JK JK!!

[DLWebmaestro96]

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Yeah, why do so many people say "that is so g-a-y" I had to put the dashes because it will make them the word g ay into asterisks. I mean it offends people that are really g ay because it makes them feel mor different, people commit hate crimes on g ay peoples, in fact a lot of g ay people suicide. They're not bad, or evil, or breaking any laws, they're just different, they're just attracted to the same gender instead of the opposite gender, lay of saying that something is g ay, it makes whoever says that look like a teenager, cause since when i was in high school (like 6-7 years ago) everybody said, that is so g ay. They do that so much, don't be one of those immature teenagers.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. Thanks Eddy. :)

[DLWebmaestro96]

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DLWebmaestro96 : Around early High School (around 96) it WAS jewish as a negative, now replaced by gay.

Just goes to show you how rampant hatred is in the world. '96 is the year I graduated HS, BTW. :)

PS - Your moniker isn't by change a reference to Mack The Knife the cadence, is it?

[DLWebmaestro96]

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Any added words Doctor Phill?

JK JK!!

Yes... be sure to drink your Ovaltine!

[DLWebmaestro96]

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Any added words Doctor Phill?

JK JK!!

Yes... be sure to drink your Ovaltine!

But anyway... I really hope DICE fixes the shotty accuracy that apparently plagues this rifle.

[unknownman_007]

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Yes... be sure to drink your Ovaltine!

Ha ha! Beautiful follow up :laugh:

[Paas]

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bottom line: body armor cannot even come close to stopping a direct hit from a .308win that comes outa the m24.

... and even if it did stop it, the amount of energy transferred to your body would be enough to crush every rib in your chest, making you "critically wounded" anyway.

reference: http://www.bulletproofme.com/Ballist...n_Levels.shtml

Considering the toughest armor they show is a Level-III A which will stop 9 mm FMJ at ~1,400 fps. I shoot 50gr. Hornady V-max out of my AR-15 .223rem @ 3300 fps. This would DEFINATELY penetrate the highest class armor they list.

Now, a 165gr FMJ fired @ 2800 fps or more from a .308 is sure as hell going to penetrate the front armor, the body, and exit out the back armor of that person.

Any before you skeptics get all nuts, I have a military background, and have been hunting since I was approx. 5yrs old. I know what it takes to kill something, and I know what kind of punch modern rifles carry.

This game is not about realism... its about gameplay. I just want the sniper rifles to be more accurate. I can get the headshot on my own... just give me the damn accuracy the rifles deserve!

I don't have military background, but, I do have hands on time with a wide selection or firearms.

I agree with almost everything you say, although, there was a documented instance of a soilder taking a 7.62x54r to the chest, and sustaining moderate injuries (No broken bones, just, pretty much had the air drop kicked outa' him). And a .308 isn't going to crack any damn ribs when it flattens on plates! I don't know where people get off thinking ammunition hits with the froce of a Flak88 shaft. It's not the case, ammunition is only going to hit as hard as the force that propells it. Which in the case of the .308 is more of a decent right hook to the ribs.

So, I'm gunna' have to disagree. The .308(166g, About 2500 to 3000fps) can be stopped by modern body armor, I'm not saying the odds are in the outfitted persons favor, not that you're going to see it happen often. BUT! It's physically possible for modern body armor to stop a .308 (And yes, I know the ballistics aren't the same, but, the two rounds can be compared to one another in terms of stopping power. Depeding on the grain size of the projectile)

As for the .338 (250grain! I was Waaaaay off! Damn! Ouch!), and the .50 (705gr! Damn!), no. Body armor is NOT going to stop those rounds. Hell, probably wouldn't even stop a .300 M.(178gr, but at WELL over 3000fps. That's some stopping power), but, for gameplay relevance (Considering this game isn't supposed to be 100% realistic for fear of sacrificing gameplay) you could go would the values I set in mah' earlier post.

{WP}Paas

[C11.Nemisis]

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http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/military_photos_20056191.asp

[Eddy01741]

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I don't have military background, but, I do have hands on time with a wide selection or firearms.

I agree with almost everything you say, although, there was a documented instance of a soilder taking a 7.62x54r to the chest, and sustaining moderate injuries (No broken bones, just, pretty much had the air drop kicked outa' him). And a .308 isn't going to crack any damn ribs when it flattens on plates! I don't know where people get off thinking ammunition hits with the froce of a Flak88 shaft. It's not the case, ammunition is only going to hit as hard as the force that propells it. Which in the case of the .308 is more of a decent right hook to the ribs.

So, I'm gunna' have to disagree. The .308 can be stopped by modern body armor, I'm not saying the odds are in the outfitted persons favor, not that you're going to see it happen often. BUT! It's physically possible for modern body armor to stop a .308 (And yes, I know the ballistics aren't the same, but, the two rounds can be compared to one another in terms of stopping power. Depeding on the grain size of the projectile)

As for the .338, and the .50, no. Body armor is NOT going to stop those rounds. Hell, probably wouldn't even stop a .300 S.M., but, for gameplay relevance (Considering this game isn't supposed to be 100% realistic for fear of sacrificing gameplay) you could go would the values I set in mah' earlier post.

{WP}Paas

Yeah, it especially won't pierce body armor if it hits one of those many ceramic blocks you put on that armored vest, i would like to see 50 cal bullet penetrate one of those ceramic blocks.

[Paas]

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Yeah, it especially won't pierce body armor if it hits one of those many ceramic blocks you put on that armored vest, i would like to see 50 cal bullet penetrate one of those ceramic blocks.

You're one of those guys who sneak into a knife fight, shank the hell outa' whoever has their back turned, and then sneaks out before things get interesting... aren't ya'?

Look. I didn't say a .308 couldn't punch through body armor, it can', BUT it can also fail to do so. If it DOES NOT punch through the armor, then it's not going to affect the victim much more than a sharp right hook to the gut/ribs.

Now, you claim you don't wanna' start a flame war, but, your half-hearted and not very witty statements tell me otherwise. How about this, considering that you're responding to what you THINK you're reading (Because I obviously didn't say anything about a .50 cal round stopping on body armor) vs. what's really being said... how about you just don't comment in regards to me, especially if you feel that what I'm saying is simply (spam)? Eh? Thanks.

{WP}Paas

[K-Boom]

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M95 is crap in the game

Ok, they didn't want 1 shot kills
But actually the M24 is waaaaaaaaay better, and you can 1 shot kill with it... And the most stupid: the grenade launcher, its an uber 1 shot kill weapon, and the shooter can shoot it in the feet, kill the enemy and not die. That is even more stupid.

So, why not the sniper rifles, if you give a headshot, it should be 1 shot kill.

Why the M95 if you hit the chest, the belly or head, why not a 1 shot kill?

Probably in real life, if you get hit by a M95 in the arms or legs, you could say bye bye to your leg / arm. But the M95 in the game and in real life at head / chest / belly, should be = goodybe

Another problem of the M95, its too inacurrate in the game.

[Paas]

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In truth, the accuracy is my only real concern.

The Sniper rifles can do one damage to the chest, as long as the headshots work and the rifles are accurate.

{WP}Paas

[bam23]

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How many times does it have to be said that the M95 does ~95% damage? Thats basically a one shot kill.

Snipers do not rule the game anymore. Get used to it. Cap some flags.

[Eddy01741]

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You're one of those guys who sneak into a knife fight, shank the hell outa' whoever has their back turned, and then sneaks out before things get interesting... aren't ya'?

Look. I didn't say a .308 couldn't punch through body armor, it can', BUT it can also fail to do so. If it DOES NOT punch through the armor, then it's not going to affect the victim much more than a sharp right hook to the gut/ribs.

Now, you claim you don't wanna' start a flame war, but, your half-hearted and not very witty statements tell me otherwise. How about this, considering that you're responding to what you THINK you're reading (Because I obviously didn't say anything about a .50 cal round stopping on body armor) vs. what's really being said... how about you just don't comment in regards to me, especially if you feel that what I'm saying is simply (spam)? Eh? Thanks.

{WP}Paas

I wasn't flaming you, it's the truth, yes, a .308 round can be stopped by body armor, not much, but it's possible. BUt if it does hit a ceramic block it will bounce off it, i didn't mean that to mock you, cause everybody knows that those ceramic blocks are designed to stop bullets going to the general direction of the heart. I'm sorry if you took that as an offense to you, i didn't mean it that way, i was just speaking the truth.