how many of you get mad when...?

[The Great Stonk]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

the best commanders fight. why do you think 3 out of 4 commander abilities are available via the T menu ? so he can use them quickly in the middle of a fire fight. having a commander that is hiding at the back of the map is only really viable on large vehicle based maps. but on most maps - lying down doing nothing denies your team of a player effectivly, since he can still his job while fighting directly, or at least i can. all requests can be accepted or denied with a quick flick to the commander screen. (their should be a button shortcut (page up/page down?) that lets a commander accept or deny a supply drop/uav/atrilery requests)

[N2K]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

their should be a button shortcut (page up/page down?) that lets a commander accept or deny a supply drop/uav/atrilery requests

i agree

[imported_Fusion]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

They probably don't know you have a clan mate nearby. I never check for these things.

That sounds kind of hypocritical don't you think? Honorless idiotic annoying dumbass, but you fly your Helicopter into the water if you don't get the copilot that you want?

These things happen so it's better to learn to accept it than to fly it into the water.

Fair point, it IS hypocritical, I'll admit that. But I just cannot see the point of it, I return the favour if I jump in a helo and someone askes me nicely to jump out because they have a teammate ready. You have to be a complete ******* or just incredibly stupid (not you the poster, the guys who don't jump out!)

By taking off and throwing the helo in the water, it might trigger something in their tiny brains that clanmate on vent + clanmate on vent = exceptional air support in attack helo .. and then possibly just leave it for us, which they sometimes do.

[BeerStein]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

By taking off and throwing the helo in the water, it might trigger something in their tiny brains that clanmate on vent + clanmate on vent = exceptional air support in attack helo .. and then possibly just leave it for us, which they sometimes do.

What part of - even though I am not on ventrillo - I might be a better pilot/gunner than you or your butt buddy.

Give them a shot and at least see - worst case scenario you spawn back near your lover. Better case - you learn something new - a new tactic, better way to gun, fly, etc.

Quit being such a selfish bitch - I am not here to make your game play better. I am here to work as a team and win the map. I gaurandamntee I will not hop out of a chopper - and if you suicide me into the water - you bet your ass you just opened a can of me stealing the chopper from you every ****ing time the rest of the game - and letting another team member gun for me while we go kill the enemy instead of sitting waiting for a damn spawn.

[imported_Fusion]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

What part of - even though I am not on ventrillo - I might be a better pilot/gunner than you or your butt buddy.

Give them a shot and at least see - worst case scenario you spawn back near your lover. Better case - you learn something new - a new tactic, better way to gun, fly, etc.

Quit being such a selfish bitch - I am not here to make your game play better. I am here to work as a team and win the map. I gaurandamntee I will not hop out of a chopper - and if you suicide me into the water - you bet your ass you just opened a can of me stealing the chopper from you every ****ing time the rest of the game - and letting another team member gun for me while we go kill the enemy instead of sitting waiting for a damn spawn.

Because they always have names like LEETHERO777, which is an obvious clue as to their skill level. If it's someone in a respectable clan then fine..

You just arn't understanding because you probably do it yourself or you have never been in the situation and it is extremely frustrating cause you KNOW that the noob who got in is going to have terrible aim and probably not even know how to use the TV missiles.

[BeerStein]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

I have been in that situation many times. Even where I have seen 2 clanned members such as yourself camping the chopper. They go out - and spawn back just minutes later cause they suck.

I hate having an inferior gunner when I am flying - but I make do, but I never intentionally kill them.

Same with when I gun with a suckass pilot. If they suck at flying I tell them to land and we can switch roles, but I don't jump out and shoot him for taking the helo.

If you run across some Leethero777 who keeps camping it and running tickets down for dying - put his ass up on the eviction block - put it out on global that you want to boot him because he sucks ass - and is ruining your team - he will get the point, along with being banned hopefully.

My point to all this is - you need to give people a chance. I think I am a decent pilot - but I know there are way better than myself out there - same with gunning. I am always open to learn more.

Killing your teammates because you did not get your way, or your vehicle - you are a child and should be treated as such.

[kbmob]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

I Hate a commander that doesnt spot and watch your back.. and/or one that doesnt use UAV or Scan. I swear I think 70% of the commanders I have had think everyone can see Scan becuase they sure as hell dont call out targets, or tell you if a base is clear.

[BeerStein]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

You also need to remember that there are commanders out there just trying to get a higher score for commander awards - there is a thread about that on here.

By them not telling you of approaching enemies - bases get flipped and the teams score more points - which gives commanders more pts. If they are not throwing arty - they are saving more kills for people that can score from them - thus in turn giving a higher average to the players - which gives the commander a better score.

Just have to remember there are a lot of people out there that are only out for themselves - even as a commander. I know I have run across more than one commander in a chopper as a pilot - his gunner was #1 racking up kills - thus driving the commander at the win to #1.

It sucks - but it happens. If you hop on a server and I have command - you can gaurantee that I am out there for the teams and the win and not the pts.

[Furious-AGE-]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

I think many people play as commander because if your team wins, it's double the points. The problem with this is that most of those people will join the battle, fly aircraft, or fight on the front lines, completely ignoring the requests from their squad leaders.

The commander mode, in my opinion, is something that should be used 100% of the time. This would mean that the commander should be hidden somewhere and looking at the screen for the entire match.

Unfortunately there are still too many people who are trying to get as many points as possible at the expense of teamwork.

[imported_DytHlt]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

all requests can be accepted or denied with a quick flick to the commander screen. (their should be a button shortcut (page up/page down?) that lets a commander accept or deny a supply drop/uav/atrilery requests)

The commander is more then a War Field Waiter...


The commander needs to monitor troop and squad poisitions and find the best way for a squad to attack and when to attack..

I take it you have never played any Modern War RTS games?

[BeerStein]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

It all boils down to people knowing how the commander gets pts.

The only way they get top bidding is if the team wins - then double the average score. That still does not gaurantee max pts. If they are only in it for the pts - join a squad or be a leader.

[Jaxx]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

Well this is a tricky thing. Considering what you have to do as a commander there isn't alot of time depending on the map to go out and kill a ton of people with a gun. I try to only dwell on the the team and drop and art, and do what needs to be done. But If I see an enemy near me then by all means i will snipe and go back to what I was originally doing. The problem is no matter how good you are as a commander someone always starts a mutany on you. Kind of makes you want to slap them, but most of the time it's fun. One thing I did notice is its kind of a wast with the commands both for CMDR and the Squad leaders to tell your troops what to do. Most of the time they hit no or accept yet go the other way. LOL What can you do! Play on and have fun I guess.

[Wynterheart]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

the commander is up at the front lines with you?

when i play city maps i like tp be up there, shooting and stabbing them up...but i still drop supplies when needed, and uav when needed or requested, even if it has to mean me dieng to do it, i end up getting 40-50 points before round ends, they always try to boot me at the last few mins cuz they wanna take commander spot to get more points, but they never vote me off

you can't use the assets when you're dead.

[N2K]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

no, but im sure they can wait 15sec, or i send in supplies or uav right before i get killed

[N2K]

Re: how many of you get mad when...?

The commander is more then a War Field Waiter...


The commander needs to monitor troop and squad poisitions and find the best way for a squad to attack and when to attack..

I take it you have never played any Modern War RTS games?

well its hard to manage squads when everyone in it is a lonewolf, when they arent doing thier job, ill jump in the fight, only in city maps though, to much going on in other maps...but when they start losing i like to jump in, i sometimes even ask "will you guys bitch if i put in some work?" and if they say no, i run down and help, or even when they captured most flags i stay at one post that is unguarded, and defend it