AA no good in this game?

[maforduk]

Just SHOOT IT and stop whining about turn arc's! LOL :)

[glaeken]

Shooting them in the side or in the tail seems to do the most damage though you should shoot at them whatever part you can hit them on in general because even hitting them in the front takes them down quite quickly.

You are giving away you postion though if you shoot at them when they are facing you. Its best to hit them when they are not looking at you as by the time they have turned they are going to be seriously damaged already.

If they are already smoking shoot at them regardless of where they are looking as at that stage they will go down very quickly.

[shadowseed1]

another useful weapon

Another useful one is the rocket launcher enplacments. They are way more powerful than the SAW's the anti-tank role carrys around.

One of these around the engine area or cockpit of an chopper tends to send it crashing to the ground in a heap. Ive never ogt a chance to use one on a blackhalk yet though.

If you've just got a saw, try to aim INSIDE a chopper, through the side/rear cavatiys, at the pilot. Ive managed to fire a rocket at a non-us chopper while it was flag - hopping. It went stright through the rear entrance, into the cockpit and killed the pilot... i then pimped his ride ;-)

But yes, AA is just a joke in this game. They need to make it more powerful against planes and helecopter gunships.

[glasseye]

tows will set an attack chopper on fire but not a transport.

[D3TON8R]

yeah go do that against any pilot/gunner that isnt incompetent and tell me how it goes.

Yeah, let me know too!! lol

[glaeken]

yeah go do that against any pilot/gunner that isnt incompetent and tell me how it goes.

It does work even against good pilots. The secret is not to sit next to the flag and open up as they will rip you apart. Sit 100 meter's off the flag with some cover though and by the time the pilot knows where you are it will be too late. Of course you then move because once that pilot respawns he will know where you were and come hunting you.

[glasseye]

too late?
how long exactly does it take a buggy gun to drop a blackhawk? remember the blackhawk has vision to the front and both sides. how long does the minigun take to kill a buggy?
if a pilot cannot get in position to fire at you in the time it takes a buggy to drop him, he aint a good pilot.

[D3TON8R]

too late?
how long exactly does it take a buggy gun to drop a blackhawk? remember the blackhawk has vision to the front and both sides. how long does the minigun take to kill a buggy?

how long does it take for ya grogie to splash in the bowl............hmmm, bad comparo, sorry........lol

[ceovsenik]

I've found the best method to take out a Helicopter is tank rounds.
Not so good on airplanes, though.
The dedicated AA vehicles are terrible.

[glaeken]

too late?
how long exactly does it take a buggy gun to drop a blackhawk? remember the blackhawk has vision to the front and both sides. how long does the minigun take to kill a buggy?
if a pilot cannot get in position to fire at you in the time it takes a buggy to drop him, he aint a good pilot.

A blackhawk takes probably 5-6 seconds of constant fire on it if it does not have engineers on board. A Cobra on the other hand seems to go down far easier. Maybe 2-3 seconds.

With the Blackhawks the point again comes down to being a bit outside where the flag is as the gunners tend to concentrate fire into the flag area and will often miss someone sitting a bit further off. As for the attack choppers you can take them down so quickly it does not give them much chance to find you.

Maybe I am playing against noob pilots but in that case most pilots on pub servers must be noob's

[glasseye]

the attack choppers have less armour than the transports. i could go time how long it takes a jeep to kill one but im at work. maybe later.

[swordfish56]

I never tried using the buggy gun before (the top one right? not the side gun). I'll try it out and see, sounds wonderful. Don't need to run screaming for the nearest stinger next time i hear some blawkhawk/cobra overhead next time.....

[glaeken]

Yeah it needs to be the top gun because it can turn 360 degree's so if the chopper starts to make a run for it he will not move out of the arc of your fire.

Stingers are probably still better when they actually work though as far as I have been able to work out they are a little moody and sometimes just fly off into the distance and ignore all targets. I guess they just want some personal space. You are also a big target sitting in a Stinger site as all the pilots know where they are but a buggy can be constantly moved around so the pilot will have to look for you.

[dmonkey]

Good points, the buggies are more like mobile flak guns. If people utilized them more, chopper whoring would be nonexistent on most maps.

[Thelron]

it takes a good bit more than 2 or 3 seconds of fire to drop an attack chopper... and a LOT more to drop a blackhawk.

If you could get 3 or 4 guys in jeeps/buggies at one time then yes you could down them that quickly and really ruin the pilots' days.

As for the TOW launchers, while they won't 1-hit the choppers they usually scare 'em off, even a blackhawks a lot of times. As far as I remember, they *do* 2-hit either though (they should 2-hit anything) so if you're able to start firing soon enough you just might have time to put two missiles into an approaching chopper (since you can keep the warning buzzer from going off until just before it hits once you get a little practice).