Etiquette and baseraping.

[kramit]

don't spawn camp. its not cool and it only proves how much of a ***** and sucky player you are that the only way you can kill people is as soon as they spawn and have no chance at fighting back.

<sarcasm>
ahhhhh, well if it's not cool, I should probably stop doing it. Especially if they have NO CHANCE of fighting back.
Poor them.
</sarcasm>

Honestly though, the whole game is about maximizing your effectiveness. If I am capping a CP, do I think to myself..."Hmmm.. well that guy might not be having fun, so I will let him kill me and defend his flag. That'll make him feel better."

And if it really is about "racking up" cheap kills that you hate base camping. then you are probably anti-blackhawking, anti-tank, anti-plane, and anti-anything that gets you more kills. Crap, maybe we should use no vehicles and everyone go knifey so we are all "equal".

Heck, sniping the uncappable main is easier than sniping in another location. Does that mean the sniper is racking up his kills cuz it's cheap? Do you call him a sucky player?

Look, there is a reason they put commander assets at uncappables... They wanted it to be another point of contention... another viable battleground.

Just cuz you want to wait in peace for the plane/copter to respawn rather than go out and try to cap some flags sans-vehicle doesn't mean I have to accomidate your crappy playing style. If anyones the worse player, it's you.

I make no exceptions for bad players. If they are not having fun, I am not going to dumb down my play so they can feel good. The reality is that it's pretty durn easy to kill a camper or sneak away to go flag hopping.

[Bob_the_Insane]

if you can't kill a few people in your main base ESPECIALLY with all of the teamwork, communication and commander abilities in this game then you just plain suck.

My opinion in a nutshell...

[glasseye]

it can be hard to organise a defence when you are killed instantly upon respawning.

[Wynterheart]

<sarcasm>
ahhhhh, well if it's not cool, I should probably stop doing it. Especially if they have NO CHANCE of fighting back.
Poor them.
</sarcasm>

Honestly though, the whole game is about maximizing your effectiveness. If I am capping a CP, do I think to myself..."Hmmm.. well that guy might not be having fun, so I will let him kill me and defend his flag. That'll make him feel better."

And if it really is about "racking up" cheap kills that you hate base camping. then you are probably anti-blackhawking, anti-tank, anti-plane, and anti-anything that gets you more kills. Crap, maybe we should use no vehicles and everyone go knifey so we are all "equal".

Heck, sniping the uncappable main is easier than sniping in another location. Does that mean the sniper is racking up his kills cuz it's cheap? Do you call him a sucky player?

Look, there is a reason they put commander assets at uncappables... They wanted it to be another point of contention... another viable battleground.

Just cuz you want to wait in peace for the plane/copter to respawn rather than go out and try to cap some flags sans-vehicle doesn't mean I have to accomidate your crappy playing style. If anyones the worse player, it's you.

I make no exceptions for bad players. If they are not having fun, I am not going to dumb down my play so they can feel good. The reality is that it's pretty durn easy to kill a camper or sneak away to go flag hopping.

you are a moron. way to take everything i said out of context...gotta love internet forums. people only see what they want to see.

i'm talking about spawn camping at the uncappable base. spawn camping at the uncappable is bad, not using the tanks, planes etc. the sniper sitting at the uncappable base is a cheap ass sucky player. he's stupid too. why? because how many peeople spawn at the uncappable base once the other bases are taken over? not many unless there is a plane/helo there.

if you are spawn camping a cappable flag, then it sucks, but its still valid at that point because you are trying to take it over. there is no reason to spawn camp at an ucappable base other than to be a cheap ass moron with no skill to pad your stats. being at the uncappable flag benefits no one (unless you are a point whore with no skill).

how many people can blow up the commander assets? um...1 right? how does 1 person make it a place of contention? if every one had the ability to do it, then yes, i might be able to see your point there. why did they put commander assets at the uncappable starting point base? BECAUSE THATS YOUR ****ING HQ, YOU DUMBASS! i guess it would make sense to put the commander assets in the middle of the ****ing map or 3/4 of the way towards the enemy base??? god you are a ****ing retard!

from my experience, getting out of a base that is surrounded by tanks, APCs, infantry, aircraft, and having the **** arty'ed out of it is kind of hard.

but then you've probably never experienced it. you're probably one of those pussies who switches teams if its not going well for his team.

[Bob_the_Insane]

I for one do not switch teams if things are going badly, I just try harder...

This is a team game and as such i your team truely sucks you will find yourself in this position.

Here is a question that might well be worth exploring.

YOu are having a great game, racking up the kills. Your team is good and you are kicking arse and taking flags. Only half the tickets have expired and the enemy is forced back to their uncapturable spawn (and despite what has been said I have seen it happen to the US carrier base).

What do you do now? The pilots and going to continue attack runs against the base and that should only be fair. You stand around and wait for a while and the enemy does not turn up other than a few abortive helicopter runs that get shot down pretty quick... In this game, what do you do at that point?? I mean how far away should you wait? If not in the enemy base, then outside the base? 100m away? At the flags (which would be daft considering arty strikes and bombers)? What do you do if the opponent team sucks...

That is the case in fact, if you team is lossing that badly then your team sucks. You as an individual may be an excellent player but your team (or team work maybe) sucks...

Both sides out equal, or mostly equal, on the maps so if you are backed into a corner then it is your own fault. Suck it up, take it like a man and play better next round...

[Wynterheart]

I for one do not switch teams if things are going badly, I just try harder...

This is a team game and as such i your team truely sucks you will find yourself in this position.

Here is a question that might well be worth exploring.

YOu are having a great game, racking up the kills. Your team is good and you are kicking arse and taking flags. Only half the tickets have expired and the enemy is forced back to their uncapturable spawn (and despite what has been said I have seen it happen to the US carrier base).

What do you do now? The pilots and going to continue attack runs against the base and that should only be fair. You stand around and wait for a while and the enemy does not turn up other than a few abortive helicopter runs that get shot down pretty quick... In this game, what do you do at that point?? I mean how far away should you wait? If not in the enemy base, then outside the base? 100m away? At the flags (which would be daft considering arty strikes and bombers)? What do you do if the opponent team sucks...

That is the case in fact, if you team is lossing that badly then your team sucks. You as an individual may be an excellent player but your team (or team work maybe) sucks...

Both sides out equal, or mostly equal, on the maps so if you are backed into a corner then it is your own fault. Suck it up, take it like a man and play better next round...

i say move back to a flag point that you capped and defend it. give them a chance to do something and actually PLAY. thats what the game is about. LET THEM PLAY IT!

[IHateYou]

made by ISoft and now installing a new 10 IP range (What class IP is that if you're so smart?)

I'll take, "Class B IP addresses" for $500 Alex. Of course, I'm assuming you said a 10 IP range to mean that the high-order bits in the first octet are set to 10. But I'm not sure, since no one on here is as smart as you. And I'm 22 by the way.

[ThyNecromancer]

Spawn raping is part of the game. If a player has to votekick or ask an admin to boot someone for spawn raping..then they are a big p|_|ssy who has no skill or enough intelligence to form a clan to get around it.

If it's part of the game.. do it... unless it's a glitch.

[jdogg88-Fed]

Base Rapeing Rules

[Jadacool]

Like it or hate it, not much u can do about it anyway so get used to it. If the server dont allow, fine, if it does and u dont like it, find another.

[Wynterheart]

Spawn raping is part of the game. If a player has to votekick or ask an admin to boot someone for spawn raping..then they are a big p|_|ssy who has no skill or enough intelligence to form a clan to get around it.

If it's part of the game.. do it... unless it's a glitch.

right, because when i spawn right in front of that tank, i have a ton of time to either get behind him or shoot him with a AT...
if there was a spawn invulnerability like in other games, it might make it better, but as soon as you spawn you can be killed.
or when i spawn as a medic or support guy, i have the means to destroy that tank? do you even play this game?

please show me in the manual or anywhere EA/DICE says that you are supposed to spawn rape the uncappable base?

[kramit]

you are a moron. way to take everything i said out of context...gotta love internet forums. people only see what they want to see.

I understood everything you said. It's just whiny bullcrap is all.

i'm talking about spawn camping at the uncappable base. spawn camping at the uncappable is bad, not using the tanks, planes etc. the sniper sitting at the uncappable base is a cheap ass sucky player. he's stupid too. why? because how many peeople spawn at the uncappable base once the other bases are taken over? not many unless there is a plane/helo there.

You were talking about unfairness at uncappable bases. I was generalizing that you must think if there exists any perceived unfairness to the game, the other person must be a no-talent point-whore. If a sniper is at the uncappable base with the sniper unlock, and shoots people out of planes/helos then he is helping his team by keeping those assets down.

there is no reason to spawn camp at an ucappable base other than to be a cheap ass moron with no skill to pad your stats. being at the uncappable flag benefits no one (unless you are a point whore with no skill).

How about to keep enemy assets down or the other team from joining the fight? How about to distil mayhem in the enemy and force them to reorganize? Does that not benefit your team?

how many people can blow up the commander assets? um...1 right? how does 1 person make it a place of contention?

Blatantly wrong. Spec Ops have 5 pieces of C4. This means at MOST he can take out two commander assets. On some maps there are three pieces of artillery, satelite, and UAV. At the VERY least you would need one Spec Ops and one supply.... And that's if the enemy is not defending/repairing their assets. In my expirience, you need a squad of at least 3. And if you want to keep the assets permanently down, then you need to sit there and defend the blown assets from being fixed.

BECAUSE THATS YOUR ****ING HQ, YOU DUMBASS! i guess it would make sense to put the commander assets in the middle of the ****ing map or 3/4 of the way towards the enemy base???

It's nice to see you make my point for me. And trust me, working yourself up like this doesn't make you argue your point any better. If you are going to make a point, at least try to do it logically rather than an unintentional emotional flame on.

from my experience, getting out of a base that is surrounded by tanks, APCs, infantry, aircraft, and having the **** arty'ed out of it is kind of hard.

You mean you actually need to do a bit of thinking??? Heaven forbid you have to actually work at it. Once again, you proven my point. Most people who claim "baseraping" is bad are the same people who hate blackhawking because it isn't a simple one click to bring them down. Learn to play the game decently well, then you can have fun. Do you claim foul when someone studies for a test or is naturally better at something and then actually does better than you? Are they cheating? Are they no-talent-hacks just racking up scores?

but then you've probably never experienced it. you're probably one of those pussies who switches teams if its not going well for his team.

whatever you have to tell yourself....

Nah... never experienced it. I've never been on a server where my side was outclassed, or full of morons. Nope, I've never had one of my buddies TS me "We got a tank at our main." If I did, I'd probably whine "CHEATER!" or "POINT WHORE" or initiate a kick against them cuz gosh darnit... "It's just not right."

[LiVeByTheGuN]

wow u guys are softys...its their fault if they get driven back into their base...so its right too attack.

[Wynterheart]

I understood everything you said. It's just whiny bullcrap is all.



You were talking about unfairness at uncappable bases. I was generalizing that you must think if there exists any perceived unfairness to the game, the other person must be a no-talent point-whore. If a sniper is at the uncappable base with the sniper unlock, and shoots people out of planes/helos then he is helping his team by keeping those assets down.



How about to keep enemy assets down or the other team from joining the fight? How about to distil mayhem in the enemy and force them to reorganize? Does that not benefit your team?



Blatantly wrong. Spec Ops have 5 pieces of C4. This means at MOST he can take out two commander assets. On some maps there are three pieces of artillery, satelite, and UAV. At the VERY least you would need one Spec Ops and one supply.... And that's if the enemy is not defending/repairing their assets. In my expirience, you need a squad of at least 3. And if you want to keep the assets permanently down, then you need to sit there and defend the blown assets from being fixed.



It's nice to see you make my point for me. And trust me, working yourself up like this doesn't make you argue your point any better. If you are going to make a point, at least try to do it logically rather than an unintentional emotional flame on.



You mean you actually need to do a bit of thinking??? Heaven forbid you have to actually work at it. Once again, you proven my point. Most people who claim "baseraping" is bad are the same people who hate blackhawking because it isn't a simple one click to bring them down. Learn to play the game decently well, then you can have fun. Do you claim foul when someone studies for a test or is naturally better at something and then actually does better than you? Are they cheating? Are they no-talent-hacks just racking up scores?



whatever you have to tell yourself....

Nah... never experienced it. I've never been on a server where my side was outclassed, or full of morons. Nope, I've never had one of my buddies TS me "We got a tank at our main." If I did, I'd probably whine "CHEATER!" or "POINT WHORE" or initiate a kick against them cuz gosh darnit... "It's just not right."

because you need to deprive other people from playing right?
you obviously didn't read my post because i said how many people can blow up the commander assets? 1 - the spec ops. i didn't ask how many c4s he needs or that he needs to reload. reading comprehension ftw.

your analogies make no sense. obviously if someone studied and i didn't, he would do better.
you and your team surrounding my only spawn in tanks, apcs, and every thing else takes no skill at all. hey that guy spawnd! shoot him! he's dead before he can even turn around or move 2 feet! wow, so much skill.

[IHateYou]

I will spawncamp as well, when it's the last flag left. This is a game of racking up points for kills. It's not cheating, I'm not hacking, I just have a tank and you don't. Your team sucked bad enough to get backed into a corner, now take your beatings like a grownup. Hey, there's always next round.

I've been on the receiving end of it too. Spawn as AT, fire of one missile, die. Respawn, fire off one missile, die, until the tank/chopper is gone.

Seriously though, if someone hasn't hacked the code to make themselves invincible, then just deal with it. Except bunny-hoppers. LOL. I F-ing hate bunny-hoppers.