Server requires Unmodified Content??

[ice@BuFu]

Hi there!

I just registered to talk with you about this special issue. I also had (and sometimes still have) the "unmodified-content-problem" and solved it partly by using my Notebook for installing/patching the game.
But I think we only try to cure the symptoms - not the real illness our systems have to deal with. What makes the files not installing correctly while they do on other systems? Is it the chipset? The CPU? The RAM? I also use an AMD64-Plattform (funny coincidence, isn´t it?). You can find the specs in my sig. If we could find out, what causes the files not to be installed and patched correctly, the problem should be solved easyly i think....

BTW: Sorry for my poor english but I really try!

My System: Klick!

[SiNiStEr94]

My friend had this problem too. He uninstalled BF2, re-installed BF2 in windows like normal then rebooted into Windows SafeMode. While in SafeMode he patched BF2 with 1.02, then rebooted back into Normal mode. We've been playing all day in numerous different servers, and he hasn't had a single problem since.

[Kelloggs]

I agree with Ice@BuFu

we need to find out why the files are becoming corrupt on transfer becasue the saemissue and long winded process awiats us when patch 1.03 is released. I still cant get objects_client.zip to checksum correctly and its giving me the shits. So my specs are as follows.


AMD 3200+
ASUS A7N8X-X
1.5 G memory
120 G HD Western Digital
x800xt ATI sapphire vid card
XP Pro (Service Pack 2) :hmm:

[UK.D-Hirogen]

What makes the files not installing correctly while they do on other systems? Is it the chipset? The CPU? The RAM? I also use an AMD64-Plattform (funny coincidence, isn´t it?)

I have an intel P4 2.4 / Asus motherboard with intel chipset so its not confined to AMD machines.

Your right about the other stuff but peeps have re-formatted their PC's and still get the error. Ive installed on 2 different harddrives, still get the error so its not my system disk. Alot of people have tested their RAM properly and have found no problems. My chipeset drivers are correct and up to date ...

Alot of people think they are getting this error for no reason, which is why its so hard to fix. I have a clean installation patched to 1.02 with ALL files passing the md5 checks but every now and again i still get the error. Someone else is getting the error because their patch failed, even though it sez it installed successfully, if they re-installed and patched properly they'd probably never see this error again (like Sith Lord).

Kellogs - You know i could never get my Objects_client.zip to update, once i figured it out it updated 3 times in a row by following two rules:

1. If it passes the 1.00 md5 check then it isnt corrupt, so it can be patched. You may have to install a few times to get one that isnt corrupt.

2. Keep patching via command prompt until it updates. This took me a long time but it WILL eventually update. Just keep running it. (I extracted EA's .zip 1.02 patch to the main BF2 directory)

Kellogs - Once you have an installation with at least Objects_client.zip patched you can re-install as many times as you need to replace the corrupt files. I would follow EA's method of uninstalling via registry etc every time, that way you dont have to copy the installation, just move it.
It only took me two installs. My first one was pretty clean, i only had 1 movie file failing the 1.00 md5 check. So i kept patching untill Objects_client.zip was done, on that installation the patch reported 0 invalid files. I moved the installation as a backup and uninstalled the game. My second install i got a few more errors but the same movie file wasnt one of them so i was sorted. I patched it, replaced the working files from my other install.
Because my luck sucks, after running the patch.exe over my installation, the md5 tool decided that i had 1 corrupt file, Fonts_client.zip. Both command and .exe patch reported no errors on this file so ignored it, been playing ever since m8. I get the error maybe once a day, i can live with that.

EDIT: LOGAN - I moved to BF2 from Nova's Joint Operations, i use to get the old multicoloured textures from time to time in that, i have only had it once in BF2 so far. Nothing i did when i was playing JO fixed it. Very annoying since my squad server and everyone elses who play's matches streams to punk buster, although punk buster will never punt / ban you for it, the ss's would not go down well with other squads. Weird though, because if it can happen and its not your fault, there will be people out there that can make it happen, and punk buster will do nothing about it.

[imported_SithL0rd]

Just thought I'd pop back over here an say that I'm still having this problem from even with a 100% md5 check.

I can play prolly 80-90% of the time with no problems at all. Then bam I hit a map that kicks me. I then hit another server thats got the same map and am able to play. I can later play on that server with no problems.

At this point I'm just happy to play most of the time. Im starting to think that its just some wierd combo of compenents that causes the md5 to fail sometimes, but honestly thats pure conjecture.

[ODD-BALL]

I have been playing with no problems since i got it working. As for the problems with it working 90%, I would just guess that it is a random problem with the way battlefield verifes the files, maybe it just isn't very dependable. I also have an amd64, BTW, but the problem seems localized to my hard drive. I may try to wipe my free space to see if the drive just keeps trying to install it to the same sector or something weird.

my stats: (I have gone back to all stock speeds while fighting this problem, so don't blame the OC)

AMD 64 3200+ overclocked 400mhz to 2.4 ghz with 240mhz FSB
DFI LanpartyNf4 Ultra SLI Mobo
Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra overclocked to 450 mhz
2 GiG G-skill low latency DDR 550 underclocked at 240 fsb at 2.5,3,3,7
10k RPM 74GB WD Raptor hard drive
7k RPM 120GB WD 1200 JB hard drive
Enermax 480w PS
Zalman cooler

[UK.D-Hirogen]

A question for those getting this prob:

Have you ever installed stuff like Omega video drivers, or any tweaked drivers, basically drivers that you didnt get from nvidia or ati ?

[GreatWhiteShark]

its a Western Digital 74GB SATA Raptor drive. Anyone else having problems with same drive? the drive i installed to that works is a WD 1200 JB, IDE drive.

I have a Raptor as well m8. Just to say I have tested MD5, green lights all the way.

But i do know that WD might do a RTM if you explain it could be the Hard Drive. Have you used the WD Lifeguard check disk tools.
WD Home http://www.wdc.com/en/index.asp?Language=en

Firmware and Lifeguard tools.… http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp?cxml=n&pid=999

WD Forum http://websupport.wdc.com/forum/default.asp

[GreatWhiteShark]

ODD-BALL when trying a wipe. Try righting zeros onto HD space (do you know what I mean?)


SithL0rd UK.D-Hirogen Hi m8's.
Just a thought, what windows OS files set up are you using..... Fat or NTFS.
Some times, Fat filing, can cause copying of program errors.


Especially if previously hard drive has had FAT imprinted and has not had zeros written to drive to cover the traces before installing, NTFS. Also vice versa.


Also partitioned hard drives C: might be NTFS and the HD space where BF2 game stored e.g. E: might be Fat may cause file / program errors.

Common denominators?? Where did you get the game from what country are you from what is the bar code on the back of the box.

I know someone's pants are green!


You can see i'm trying to cover all bases.

[ODD-BALL]

ODD-BALL when trying a wipe. Try righting zeros onto HD space (do you know what I mean?)


I know someone's pants are green!

I read ya, I just downloaded "eraser", an open source disk cleaner that will wipe free space to D.O.D specs, I may give that a try. And my pants are "PC Tech Tan" :p

What motherboard chip set do you have GreatWhite? Its a VERY long shot, but I have heard of some people having corruption problems with Raptors and the NCQ in the nForce 4 chipsets. I don't know if mine is on or not but will check it tonight. FYI --

"if you are using an nForce3 and drivers older than 6.37 (I know there is nothing above 5.10 on the site) do not enable CQ because there is a chance that your hard drive performance could drop by 60-85%, and for nForce4 owners, do not enable CQ if you do not have the 6.39 drivers (which enable CQ by default) or newer because all previous drivers (both 32 and 64-bit) cause data corruption on any hard drives with CQ enabled."

[imported_SithL0rd]

USA with DVD copy. On XP Pro usin NTFS on all drive that have never had FAT or FAT32.

Installed on a RAID with 2 WD 80 SATA drives(not raptors).

A64 with Nforce3 MSI NEO Plat mb with 2gb Corsair ValueRAM

NO overlocks.


EDIT: hrm either I missed it or you added it with the edit. Gonna try this tonite when I get home. The Nforce driver thing that is.

[UK.D-Hirogen]

ODD-BALL when trying a wipe. Try righting zeros onto HD space (do you know what I mean?)


SithL0rd UK.D-Hirogen Hi m8's.
Just a thought, what windows OS files set up are you using..... Fat or NTFS.
Some times, Fat filing, can cause copying of program errors.


Especially if previously hard drive has had FAT imprinted and has not had zeros written to drive to cover the traces before installing, NTFS. Also vice versa.


Also partitioned hard drives C: might be NTFS and the HD space where BF2 game stored e.g. E: might be Fat may cause file / program errors.

Common denominators?? Where did you get the game from what country are you from what is the bar code on the back of the box.

I know someone's pants are green!


You can see i'm trying to cover all bases.

NTFS m8. My system drive has had multiple operating systems / formatted alot etc. because its my origianl disk from my first PC (My new 160gig drive failed recently). I dont know what you mean by 'righting zeros'. Im running WinXP Pro SP2.

I got an extra disk off my Bro, formatted it and thats where my BF2 is installed to, not my system drive. I have my page file on my system drive. My Bro is running BF2 on an old drive coz his system drive failed recently, and he doesnt have a problem, the drive im using for BF2 is probably about the same age.

I doubt the problem goes as deep as IDE channels, DMA settings on harddisk drives etc because XP picks most things up on install, and provides the correct drivers, older OS are a different story. Apart from that i have the latest motherboard drivers.

My Specs:

P4 2.4
Asus P4G8X Deluxe motherboard
4 x 256mb RAM / Dual Channel DDR ram PC2100
GeForceFX5700Ultra 128mb
OnBoard RealTek AC'97 Audio
Game - DVD from U.K (Ive also tried using my Bro's disc to install, same problem but he gets none)
Worth mentioning: As ive said my Bro has no problems. We built our PC's at the same time with almost identical components, the only thing thats different is he has a slightly faster processor, 2.6 i think. Other than software installed, personal windows configuration etc. our two systems are identical. Oh and we have different DVD drives. I have two drives, a new dual layer DVD burner updated to latest firmware and a not so new DVDRom, installations from both drives gives me the error.

If it helps i can post my current IDE setup and harddrive information.

[ice@BuFu]

OK - here are the specs of my sys additional to the specs in my sig:

- German DVD
- 2 x Samsung SP0812C Raid 0 at Silicon-Image Controller of my ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe (both HDDs brandnew!!! They were changed one month ago on warranty.)
- No NTFS
- I run the 6.66 AMD Edition-Driver on my NForce4-Chipset
- No overclocking
- C&Q enabled

I think I can eliminate the DVD-Drive as problem because I tried to install the game from my Notebooks DVD-Drive (where it installs witout MD5-Probs) via Home-Network but I had MD5-errors on my PCs installation.
Hope we are really able to figure it out! :)
Funny thing: When I copy the files from my notebooks installation to my PC, it still changes their MD5-Values (espacially Objects_Client.zip).

EDIT: I just talked to a software-developer who works for the company I work at. He just had three words for the checksum-problem: "Too fast disks!"
That means the HDDs of our systems are too fast to write the files properly. Perhaps they would work in other maschines but the combination of motherboard/controller/disk is too close to the edge. It´s just a suggestion of him but I think that would make sense. He means that perhaps you shouldn´t use the explorer but some old and slow progs like an old norton commander to slow the system down while copying the files.
I would say that means, that you have to add an old IDE-HDD and the Installation should work?!? Could someone verify that?

[Kelloggs]

Fellas,

I've got a feeling that out problems are related to the ram/memory, ram timings or possibly old Via chipset. I recently put an extra 512 stick of ram in my machine prior to installing BF2 full install not demo. I'm going to take that particular stick of ram out and see if this makes much difference to the random checksum errors. What do ppl think, let me know fellas, Hirogen, Sithlord, White shark and Ice@BuFu :|:

Ice@Bufu - your argument about timings from DVD to hardrive has merit, however, how come Hirogen still had issues when using both CD and DVD install versions of the game (media issue) or is it more his rom-drive. However, I copied a good copy of Objects_client.zip file from mates harddrive via my motherboard to my harddrive and still didnt meet checksum following this transfer, hence, I'm starting to think its more a ram issue. :|:

[UK.D-Hirogen]

Ice, read my post above yours m8, you dont really get any older than my system as it barely meets the minimum requirements to play. When i updated my DVD burner's firmware it reverted to PIO mode, you dont get much slower than that, ive fixed it now but i did several installs in PIO mode. Also my system drive is very old, i dont even remember when i bought my first PC so i doubt you get any slower than that. You could try setting the DVD drive and your harddisk to PIO mode (Doesnt use RAM or pagefile from what i know of it).

RAM - My game is working 90% of the time so this is the one thing i havent tested. But peeps with this prob have tested their RAM, with memtest bootable diagnostic, removing memory sticks and testing etc. and still get no joy. Someone on the EA forum suggested removing the memory sticks, put one in and install to see if you get the same installation errors / md5 failures. This is worth testing but before i did that id run memtest first.

EDIT: When i first came across this prob my Bro said its possible it could be a bad disk sector (But that would mean every installation would have to use the same file locations) or bad RAM because if you keep running the patch sooner or later it takes (Ive seen files update after 5 runs, 10 runs etc), it makes sense that after running the patch x ammount of times your system allocates it to a new memory location because you cant keep writing over the memory address. Hit a good memory location and the patch is successfull? Like i say my game works 90% of the time so i wont be doing any extensive memory testing, but post here with your results if you guys do :)