1.4 beta 2

[imported_Talbot]

Cerbere, Tunis, Gibraltar, Belgrade, Leipzig... and you can effectively play infantry on pretty much any other map, you just need to do a little extra planning in regards to where your going and how you plan to get their.

True but then those are maps I've played raw, I'm speaking in the context of new maps.

How hard is it to make a map? Someone give me an idea of the work involved so I can appreciate why DICE rarely give us new maps.

[Salad Snake]

How hard is it to make a map? Someone give me an idea of the work involved so I can appreciate why DICE rarely give us new maps.

It's not something you do in a spare afternoon I'm fairly sure.

[Tetris L]

Shotgun buff- The Clark now shoots about 150% faster, very fun to use.

I'll be soooooo wh0ring the shotgun, even more than now. Can't wait for it.

[RottnJP]

Me too- the shotty *finally* rules in CQB, unlike now where you had better not miss with that first shot, or you'll be dead before you fire again. (Not to mention that goofy hit detection that lets you sometimes blast a guy twice in the chest & head, only to have him turn around and gun you down)

[Salad Snake]

Me too- the shotty *finally* rules in CQB, unlike now where you had better not miss with that first shot, or you'll be dead before you fire again. (Not to mention that goofy hit detection that lets you sometimes blast a guy twice in the chest & head, only to have him turn around and gun you down)

True, in almost any game, a shottie should far and away win CQC against any other weapon, hands down, even the Voss.

The reason? It's useless at any other range, you might as well throw rocks (or grenades ).

[Tetris L]

shottie should far and away win CQC against any other weapon, hands down

Oh, how I loved this baby:



Double barreled for double BOOOM.

[RangerXML]

Anyone else having problems downloading the BETA2 patch?

*EDIT* Now every one gets the Best Buy scare, bull****. I went through alot of trouble to secure all three pre-sale offers:P

[Quemical]

*EDIT* Now every one gets the Best Buy scare, bull****. I went through alot of trouble to secure all three pre-sale offers:P

When i saw that best buy gun note on the patch i thought it meant everyone gets it now, but i was wrong. It means the changes for the scar 11 will also take effect on the best buy gun (I think that's what it means)

[Diamond621]

It'll be interesting to see how quickly the uprising comes from the Voss community about how they are no longer dominant in CQB and actually have something that they fear running into at point blank range.

Me? I will be toeing up to you Clark fellows with a Herzog and a great deal of caution.

Shotgun against shotgun.

Power against versatility.

May he with the best evasion capabilities win :laugh:

[Quemical]

For a while i saw an increase of clark users, but now they all went back to the voss i guess. Because every round i play i am one of 3 that gets kills with the clark, on a 48 man server

[Diamond621]

For a while i saw an increase of clark users, but now they all went back to the voss i guess. Because every round i play i am one of 3 that gets kills with the clark, on a 48 man server

I think we'll see an extremely sharp uptake of Clark users once this patch goes live. For those who have not fired a Herzog and seen its devastating capabilities at close range, it's truly a thing to behold. The Herzog butchers the Voss at close range, and at the present moment is actually statistically better than the Clark due to its rate of fire and OHK capabilities (contrary to popular belief, the Herzog CAN one hit kill heavy armour).

The combination of that kind of rate of fire with a Clark's power (50% greater than that of the Herzog) is going to be absolutely frightening in close quarters.

[Quemical]

I would use the herzog if it had more shots in the clip

[Ghost 1800]

The combination of that kind of rate of fire with a Clark's power (50% greater than that of the Herzog) is going to be absolutely frightening in close quarters.

Well ya, it's a shotgun, it's supposed to be a beast up close. Though I really think we should be able to test these types of changes on a map that isn't... well... Tampa (it's a great map, just not ideal to notice the effects of the Clark Buff)

[Diamond621]

Well ya, it's a shotgun, it's supposed to be a beast up close.

I agree wholeheartedly, and I have absolutely no problem losing to a Clark user in close quarters as an Assault player. If you have allowed the engagement to occur at that kind of range, then you deserve to lose the fight. Simple as that.

[Ghost 1800]

ya pretty much, same concept with sniper rifle against automatic weapons...