Why does everyone hate on the voss

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EA's description doesn't have any necessary bearing on how the weapon will perform in real game play. Remember the supposed high-accuracy G3 from BF2 v1.0?

Why did you quote a bunch of things I typed and respond with a :|: smiley?

I the Ganz statement especially to Raidyr because he places value on the weapons descriptions, apparently. He said he'd be fine with the Voss if they changed the description (which I hardly believe.)

[Raidyr]

Why did you quote a bunch of things I typed and respond with a :|: smiley?

I the Ganz statement especially to Raidyr because he places value on the weapons descriptions, apparently. He said he'd be fine with the Voss if they changed the description (which I hardly believe.)

I would be perfectly happy if they would change the description of the Voss to match its current state: A general purpose assault rifle that is an obvious step-up from the stock guns.

And I think he quoted all your posts after you saying that I was condescending to you, but then you made like a dozen other remarks.

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, you AGAIN missed the point about me being an average player. Its not about the Voss whatsoever.

I think that you do not understand what I am putting across.

Fourthly, your facts on the Voss are wrong. The shakiness can be overcome by a mediocre player. The bullet deviation got buffed, thats the thing that ruined it. The damage is good enough, and it has a large clip/magazine.

The Voss still has the highest deviation, not sure what you're saying by my facts being flawed. Check the weapon compare tool. The Shakiness on the Voss is far less predictable than any other weapon's. And, it has a weak zoom. The Voss does an even 20 damage to heavy armor (meaning 5 shots barely peeks a 5 shot kill... the first instance of damage degradation makes it a 6 shot kill, whereas the Baur, for example, retains its 4 shot kill for another damage rung.)

Fifthly, assault rifles have nothing to do with LMG balance.

You said I contradicted myself by saying it's OK for the Ganz to be better than the stock MG's, then assumed the same logic for the AR's. I stated that the AR's and MG's don't have the same balance scale, so the comparison was irrelevant in the first place. Also, you apparently would be happy with the Voss if its description were changed, assuming there should be value in its current description. Should the Ganz's description then be changed, or should it be valid as a "best" MG?

Since when was the Voss a light assault rifle ingame? Nuff said.

It does have the lowest damage per bullet and smallest caliber bullet. I think that's light enough.

[/quote]And yeah, I said I would stop arguing, but damnit you are too easy :\[/quote]

If I were so easy you'd quickly dispatch me. You are really gaining any ground . You should start to point out where I'm wrong a give conclusive evidence that is undebatable, for starters. It's difficult in this situation, yes. But you haven't even given a concerted effort lol.

Finally though, sorry to disappoint, but I do consider myself a good player. I have 3 other characters, and I do well. I cap the flags, get the kills, and help my team.

I thought you said earlier that you consider yourself an average player?

For the last time, I never said that you sucked, just that you are not great. What is so freakin' hard to understand about that?

Oh btw, you'll find that I have no issues being condescending when simple things are apparently not grasped, for all the obviousness they are presented it.

[Raidyr]

Wow, you are right about the Ganz. I have not seen the description in awhile I guess. However, it is kind of reverse. And it did show back when 2142 came out. I remember the Ganz well, because it was my second weapon unlock after the Clark. It was trash. So this is like the direct polar opposite of the Voss.

Ganz: Good description, crappy gun, got buffed, decent gun
Voss: Bad description, decent gun, got buffed, good gun

And if you do not believe me about changing the description, someone else (Quentino? Something like that, sorry) mentioned it too. I really would be fine with just that.

My two other suggestions?

Decrease the damage degradation to ~50m (55 tops?)
Super-buff the Baur as I stated earlier

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The Baur's already a deathstick. If they would do anything, I would say just add five more rounds to its clip. I think the Voss's damage degradation chart should be switched with the SCAR-11's too. The Voss's capabilities and its damage chart are mismatched. It's not an overpowered aspect... it would just make more sense I guess.