Jihad

[AllFoamNoBeer]

Oh sometimes I don't even jump out and detonate!! I go down with the jeep in flames while killing my enemy.

That is a jihad.

Jumping out of the vehicle is not a jihad.

I am saying this after reading a book called Islam Unveiled. Try it, changes your perpective on Muslims and the term "Jihad".

[Mukky]

Just Say Allah Akbar (and push the Button) BOEM

[xslaneyx]

That is a jihad.

Jumping out of the vehicle is not a jihad.

I am saying this after reading a book called Islam Unveiled. Try it, changes your perpective on Muslims and the term "Jihad".

try going to liveleak.com and looking at some videos of "islam"

that will(or should at least) change your opinions believe me.:laugh:

and no im not trying to cause an argument vika poos:salute:

[AllFoamNoBeer]

liveleak is fully commercialised. I wouldn't watch it. Many times its pro war.

But still, some videos are disturbing.

But seriously speaking, get that book, really makes you wonder, Wow, these dudes are serious. And they will never stop.

[xslaneyx]

liveleak is fully commercialised. I wouldn't watch it. Many times its pro war.

But still, some videos are disturbing.

But seriously speaking, get that book, really makes you wonder, Wow, these dudes are serious. And they will never stop.

best thing about the site is that its real life and has opinions based from real people also be it pro war or anti war etc....

its good to see ordinary peoples opinions without any censorship involved i feel.

anywho back on topic i jihad jeep in situations where vehicl3 whores are r8ping the map and need to be dealt with quickly:salute:

[Biotech2142]

Try combining EMP mines with motion mines scattered around the map to slow, stop and discourage jihadders.

[Wizrdwarts]

That is a jihad.

Jumping out of the vehicle is not a jihad.

I am saying this after reading a book called Islam Unveiled. Try it, changes your perpective on Muslims and the term "Jihad".

Gah, jihad IRL and in BF have different meanings.

Just because you suicide bomb something doesn't make you a jihadist. You don't have to be Muslim or any other religion to do stuff like that, just the will to cause suffering.

In BF, people call car bombs jihads because that's what stereotypical terrorists do.

[Ghiblian]

That is a jihad.

Jumping out of the vehicle is not a jihad.

I am saying this after reading a book called Islam Unveiled. Try it, changes your perpective on Muslims and the term "Jihad".

Like the above post said, sure, jihad has a very specific meaning. However, it's common to call this tactic jihad jeeping and so it's easy to refer to it as such. We don't have to be so politically correct here. Heck, I've taken two quarters of a course of the history of Islam. -_-

Guys, I just have one thing to say about all of this "lame" stuff. Yes I hate it when I shoot 4 carefully placed Baur shots at a target and he sprays me with his Voss and I die. But I don't moan that it's "lame". I hate dying to those little RDX hoppers without having a chance to even fire my weapon, but I don't go saying it's "lame". I hate dying to a jihad jeep, but I don't go calling it "lame".

Well, first, I didn't state it, but I do think it's a lame tactic. The difference between this one and your example is that there are a number of great counters against the Voss. And it's not an end all weapon. It's just the most effective of the weapons in the most common of situations (extreme CQ combat). If most maps were designed with distance in mind, the Baur would absolutely dominate and seem overpowered. The problem with jihad jeeping is that there seems to be little to no recourse. People have suggested motion mines and EMP mines. Sure, you could play armor with an engineer equipped with these things, but you can't stay in one area forever and those mines don't follow you. Plus you lose the motion mine bait or PDS. Sure, you could shoot and hope for the best, but even if you manage to finally land that one shot, they can be back in about 20 seconds if with another round of jihading.

Another tactics people consider lame: rooftop camping. I personally find rooftop campers to be extremely good targets for sniping. They are more exposed and less aware, making for very easy headshots. So the difference in my mind between tactics is whether or not there is a way to balance it out. Putting a delay between the exiting vehicle and detonation periods I think would be the perfect solution.

[Wizrdwarts]

I gave up rooftopping once everyone unlocked rifle rockets. -_-

[imported_Bull3t]

It's fun, But think of it this way.

He is not getting a point because 95% of the time someone tries to Jihad you they die along with you thus commiting suicide and losing the kill points that he could have got if he/she was to bailed out sooner.

So I think it's not really a big problem or a problem at all.

[=)BiT(=AutoFodder]

It's fun, But think of it this way.

He is not getting a point because 95% of the time someone tries to Jihad you they die along with you thus commiting suicide and losing the kill points that he could have got if he/she was to bailed out sooner.

So I think it's not really a big problem or a problem at all.

1. You have to suck very badly if you die in your own jihad (I know a real jihad is a suicide, but I'm talking ingame jihad) I'd say its more like 95% survive

2. You don't lose points for dying

[NZDeathBoy]

The problem I have with Jihad is that fact that is isn't balacned.
2142 Is a very balanced game. Main bait to remove mines. Mines to take out Armour. Crouch to get past apms. Etc

But what is the balance with Jihad? All the tactics mentioned above don't really work.

I've spent 90hrs in walker, and my #1 way for dyiing in it is to the Jihad. As a lot of maps, you can get in behind the walker and boom your dead before you realise. Or you turn your turret, and you seam your impending death.

I would like EA to fix this a little bit. Make it so you have more of a chance. As there is lots of ways to kill a walker without jihading. You just have to work as a team.

The best way is. Emp nade spam, and railgun and pilum action. But that requires teamwork.

So im picking all the jiihaders AREN'T team work players. Are only out for themselves

[xslaneyx]

The problem I have with Jihad is that fact that is isn't balacned.
2142 Is a very balanced game. Main bait to remove mines. Mines to take out Armour. Crouch to get past apms. Etc

But what is the balance with Jihad? All the tactics mentioned above don't really work.

I've spent 90hrs in walker, and my #1 way for dyiing in it is to the Jihad. As a lot of maps, you can get in behind the walker and boom your dead before you realise. Or you turn your turret, and you seam your impending death.

I would like EA to fix this a little bit. Make it so you have more of a chance. As there is lots of ways to kill a walker without jihading. You just have to work as a team.

The best way is. Emp nade spam, and railgun and pilum action. But that requires teamwork.

So im picking all the jiihaders AREN'T team work players. Are only out for themselves

jihadders can turn the tide of a match if there is an idiot on the opposite team walker whor3ing.

im all for em in that situation:salute:

[UTQ_Shadow]

posted by NZDeathBoy:
The best way is. Emp nade spam, and railgun and pilum action. But that requires teamwork.

So im picking all the jiihaders AREN'T team work players. Are only out for themselves

I disagree with you: As you say yourself, it is almost impossible for a lone Engineer to kill a walker. Even if he succeeds, he get maximal two kills, while the walker pilot usually gets plenty of kills. So while a walker is certainly not invincible, it is hard to kill it and so walkers often dominate the battlefield.

Jiihadists jeeps level the playing field: They can easely take out a vehicel, if the pilot is focused on other things. But if the walker has cover from his team mates, this is harder. If everything goes wrong, the walker pilot can still bail out and wait till his team mates kill the recon/destroy the FAV. But of course, Teamwork is required for that, and walkers don't tend to be teamplayers, which makes them easy prey.



But if you are really alone in a vehicel and a jeep comes in your direction do the following:

Walker:
1. Walk! If you move, the recon might miss you, or you might survive the blast.
2. Shoot your rockets at the FAV (move your mouse left and right, otherwise they will certainly miss).
3. Shoot your chaingun at the recon when he gets of. You have to be very fast, but it worked sometimes when I was the Recon.


Tank:
1. Hope that your secondary gunner is any good, or at least your main gun hits. I am all for fixing the "shell flying through FAV" bug, which was apparently copied from BF2, where anti tank rockets had a 50% percent change of flying through objects.
2. Bail out

ACP
1. Slow him with EMP and shoot in his window
2. In the secondary position shoot in front of him. The mortar splash damage can often kill the pilot.

Gunship
1. Fly higher!

FAV
1. Drive faster!

[NZDeathBoy]

Walker:
1. Walk! If you move, the recon might miss you, or you might survive the blast.
2. Shoot your rockets at the FAV (move your mouse left and right, otherwise they will certainly miss).
3. Shoot your chaingun at the recon when he gets of. You have to be very fast, but it worked sometimes when I was the Recon.

Thats all very well in good. But the jeeps come up way to fast. And If they are coming from an unexpected angle. Or from around a corner, nothing you do will save you. As you can kill them sure. Only if they are quite a way away when you know they are coming.

xslaneyx I can sorta see you point. But I can't be arsed disagreeing with you, as it'll just go round and round lol