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  • jimykx
    No, I AM your father!
    • Jan 2010
    • 6640

    #16
    Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

    0.0 xD. I am not that bad

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    • Vreki
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 4226

      #17
      Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

      Originally posted by signa
      I was looking through the wall of shame and noticed some people are on there due to higher K/D ratio. Is that really grounds for labeling someone a cheater?
      Well, yes, if its high enough.
      But you will have to link to a couple of examples if you wish to discuss them.

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      • Vreki
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 4226

        #18
        Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

        I just took a look at the "Wall of Ugly", and I can see that you have people there with a very low pecentage, e.g. 16%

        In other words you are exposing people as cheaters that have over 80% probability of being legit, at least according to your own calculations.
        That is not ok.

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        • signa
          CS-Nation / TGN Staff
          • Dec 2004
          • 4191

          #19
          Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

          Originally posted by Vreki
          Well, yes, if its high enough.
          But you will have to link to a couple of examples if you wish to discuss them.
          Well our very own Leki is on there, but the one i remember was candyman. a name i clicked on because i remembered seeing him online.
          hmm, but now that i think about it.. 49% headshots with the svu? 46% with the type88?
          "Crunch's First Officer"
          twitter: @signaprime

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          • Anarchy1
            Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 1546

            #20
            Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

            Originally posted by signa
            Well our very own Leki is on there, but the one i remember was candyman. a name i clicked on because i remembered seeing him online.
            hmm, but now that i think about it.. 49% headshots with the svu? 46% with the type88?
            Mine are similar. 45% HS with the SVU and 44% with the Type 88. But I do use those like the bolts.
            Battlelog/Origin ID - Hurricane043

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            • Jonathan Hollister
              Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2

              #21
              Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

              the word "cheat" is not being used will do what i can not to use that wording. its "ugly" you must review the player carefully. if they make it on the wall there is a good chance they are doing some fishy to get there be it using a 3'd party tool or even stat padding. different weapons are calculated differently as some are more prone to have a higher ratio be head shot or overall KDR. Even the add on Nam is calculated differently as its weapons are prone to score higher then normal bfbc2. not going to pick on any names from the wall and go over the reason why they should or should not be there but its something you have to review, understand and make the best judgement as you see fit as a admin.

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              • signa
                CS-Nation / TGN Staff
                • Dec 2004
                • 4191

                #22
                Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                I see, thanks for the explanation. I like the site.
                "Crunch's First Officer"
                twitter: @signaprime

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                • Vreki
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4226

                  #23
                  Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                  Originally posted by Jonathan Hollister
                  not going to pick on any names from the wall and go over the reason why they should or should not be there but its something you have to review, understand and make the best judgement as you see fit as a admin.
                  Wrong, when you choose to publish a cheater list, you make it your responsibility.
                  Most people are not going to read the fine print, they will see the name on the list and assume "cheater".

                  And anything below 50% is not "a good chance". Even if you numbers are reliable, you need a much higher cutoff before putting peoplel on such a list.

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                  • LunaTiK TunaLiK
                    Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 923

                    #24
                    Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                    I think it's garbage.... for some reason I don't think listing sponsored gamers on a wall of ugly is key for success.

                    Make a wall of ugly website list and throw this one at the top.

                    Originally posted by Jonathan Hollister
                    the word "cheat" is not being used will do what i can not to use that wording. its "ugly" you must review the player carefully. if they make it on the wall there is a good chance they are doing some fishy to get there be it using a 3'd party tool or even stat padding. different weapons are calculated differently as some are more prone to have a higher ratio be head shot or overall KDR. Even the add on Nam is calculated differently as its weapons are prone to score higher then normal bfbc2. not going to pick on any names from the wall and go over the reason why they should or should not be there but its something you have to review, understand and make the best judgement as you see fit as a admin.
                    Using the word cheat or not it's still slandering honest people.

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                    • x=FAST=x
                      Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 66

                      #25
                      Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                      I hope I didn't confuse anyone. It just states the probability. In statistics that means not guaranteed. In my initial post its states
                      this will give you nothing but a strong indication that the people you are playing with or against are clean or keeping your server cheat free.
                      . Not something you should rely on heavily but helps you analyze their stats better and USE that at your own discretion. This is what we do. And works great. Just because the person has lets say 10-15% percent does not mean anything. If you just start a character and have a few kills and most happen to be headshots it will raise it. That's why you look at it and use your own discretion like I said.

                      Some players with low KDR or other factors are on the wall of ugly simply for having priors on pbbans or punksbusted.


                      There is always room for improvement as I stated in my initial post. If you find something that strikes you odd, please let us know and we can look into it.

                      Thank you.

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                      • CptainCrunch
                        I am the 1%
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 12976

                        #26
                        Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                        Its not that Fast, and I think everyone understands that. The issue is with the "Ugly Board" and people with a low precentage being on the board. This wall of ugliness should, I would think, only show people with 80% or above. It could be less given the mathematics involved and a 75 or 70 could actually mean 100% in real life.

                        The idea is great, but the wall representation may need some looking into.

                        Crunch
                        Twitter: @CptainCrunch
                        Battlelog/Origin: CptainCrunch

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                        • signa
                          CS-Nation / TGN Staff
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 4191

                          #27
                          Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                          I think the overall percentage needs some tweaking. when i see someone with 100 M24 sniper kills and 94% of them are headshots or having multiple guns with over 80% headshots they need to ranked higher than a 25% chance of cheating.
                          "Crunch's First Officer"
                          twitter: @signaprime

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                          • PCKiller
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 103

                            #28
                            Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                            nice tool, but we need more than it at BF3.
                            im 0% eheheh!

                            Bf3 tha game of hacks.

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                            • x=FAST=x
                              Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 66

                              #29
                              Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                              we will definitely be doing some tweaking. Its not final. Just a start. Thanks

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                              • LunaTiK TunaLiK
                                Member
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 923

                                #30
                                Re: New BC2 cheat detector and admin tool

                                Anyone developing anticheats that detect hacks is doing something good. So many of these hackers could be banned if someone would just purchase the hacks and ban them that way.

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