Black Hawk Down

[MrChris_CJ]

Re: Black Hawk Down

tbh its not just a transport it is a support vehicle as well, you pick up a full load of guys, chuck a few of them out and then keep a minigunner (even better to have a guy firing a CG out the side as well) and then help out your team, mowing people (even if it takes ages) defending MCOM plants etc

the tracer dart should be slower anyway though

[Tampa]

Re: Black Hawk Down

I never bail mid air. I always land it whenever possible. This ensures that all passengers survive, and makes it possible for the other team to pack in it, leaving less defenders on the ground. Only time i might bail is on Port Valdez.

[Amaranthuse]

Re: Black Hawk Down

I miss the bail out comma rose from BF2142.

At least I could warn them: LAST STOP! EVERYONE OUT!

[RYKUU]

Re: Black Hawk Down

A BlackHawk is a transport, but it is not a personal transport.
If you choose to pilot a team asset like the BH, then you have a responsibility to let the passengers out near the target.
If you intend to dump it after reaching the target, then state so in chat before leaving. But you still owe them at least one pass over a dropzone.

Of course the pilot can not be expected to stay if the heli gets tagged or chewed up by AA, but at least wait to bailout until you are actually hit

I agree and it is important to let them know when you are exiting as it happens quite a lot with players.
What I am trying to say is it is more effective and safer as a single transport rather then a multiple.

[Vreki]

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What site that still updates gives tracer stats? The only one I know that did hasn't updated in quite some time for me.

The stats on http://bfbc2.elxx.net/ is between 2 days and 3 weeks old, I don't know how they prioritize updates

[[Expletive Deleted]]

Re: Black Hawk Down

TRACER DART GUN
Darts Planted:77
Darts Fired:280

Its not that easy after all, now is it?

What site that still updates gives tracer stats? The only one I know that did hasn't updated in quite some time for me.

[Vreki]

Re: Black Hawk Down

You hop into a black hawk thinking that the pilot is going to chill in there until it is destroyed or reaches the drop zone?

I am not trying to be mean..really.

That's all it is used for and it does its job, nothing else to say really. (The min-guns aren't even that effective)

A BlackHawk is a transport, but it is not a personal transport.
If you choose to pilot a team asset like the BH, then you have a responsibility to let the passengers out near the target.
If you intend to dump it after reaching the target, then state so in chat before leaving. But you still owe them at least one pass over a dropzone.

Of course the pilot can not be expected to stay if the heli gets tagged or chewed up by AA, but at least wait to bailout until you are actually hit

Re: Black Hawk Down

You hop into a black hawk thinking that the pilot is going to chill in there until it is destroyed or reaches the drop zone?

I am not trying to be mean..really.

That's all it is used for and it does its job, nothing else to say really. (The min-guns aren't even that effective)

Yeah, I get that... It's just sad to see it being used like a kamikaze aircraft.

[RYKUU]

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-I don't feel sorry for me... more like the unsuspecting crew that hops on my Hawk only to realized I've bailed out as it "is" a transport vehicle.

You hop into a black hawk thinking that the pilot is going to chill in there until it is destroyed or reaches the drop zone?

I am not trying to be mean..really.

That's all it is used for and it does its job, nothing else to say really. (The min-guns aren't even that effective)

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I mean I really have no complaints about it seeing how I can easily rack up 3 or 4 kills of off them, but I'm not one of those folks who won't say anything to defend it just because it's giving me easy kills. I enjoy riding the Hawk pre-patch and in BF2 but I guess like everything else in this game it got watered down to easy mode so anyone can play.
Not just the hawk too, but all of the aircrafts in this game can easily be taken down with guided missile now.

-I don't feel sorry for me... more like the unsuspecting crew that hops on my Hawk only to realized I've bailed out as it "is" a transport vehicle.

[Tampa]

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But there is a latitude cap and you can only fly so high. Constant change will only make your gunner less accurate on an already bogus mini gun that cannot hit crap.

Key is to fly different altitudes and directions, pausing for a few seconds to provide a stable platform for your gunners, then rinse and repeat.

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I think the use of flares will greatly increase the choppers role but I didn't clearly understand how they are implementing it, will everyone be-able to drop flares regardless of their vehicle perk or will it be perk specific, it the later anyone not taking the flare perk will be screwed.

I believe they said you will need the VSmoke perk and it will not be passive.

[*FMJ*Power]

Re: Black Hawk Down

I would agree and add that any chopper is a death trap with a determined enemy, i am that enemy if im not flying and I've been playing allot of Atacama Desert conquest lately. With little to no practice a tracer dart can become a surgical weapon in itself, you can dart a chopper and lock on fire a CG straight up from cover before the crew ever knows what hit them and there's nothing like planting a tracer dart on a pesky sniper and letting one fly.

I think the use of flares will greatly increase the choppers role but I didn't clearly understand how they are implementing it, will everyone be-able to drop flares regardless of their vehicle perk or will it be perk specific, it the later anyone not taking the flare perk will be screwed.

I definitely think the mini guns need to be buffed up on the black hawk with it and it's crew being as vulnerable as they are, i just think dice was so scared of it being a powning machine like it was pre patch BF2 they gimped it with prejudice.

[Amaranthuse]

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Black Hawk in this game is a mobile spawn point.

The 50 cal on the black hawk only provide suppressive fire while the guys parachute down. They are not meant to kill.

We are not talking about AC-130 gunship in COD6.

A spawn above the enemy head. The enemy can't look up either or get damaged by 50 cal.

I think it is good enough.

[Vreki]

Re: Black Hawk Down

Balanced? A no bullet drop sniper like tracer dart? Auto aim is balanced? At least the tanks can hide under buildings but when you're in the air its nothing but clear shot.

TRACER DART GUN
Darts Planted:77
Darts Fired:280

Its not that easy after all, now is it?

In most games I have played, the Blackhawk is able to make it to the dropzone. But if it starts to circle and play AC-130, then it gets tagged and tazered. Nothing wrong with that.

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Fly higher with constant change in altitude will make black hawk harder to hit.

But there is a latitude cap and you can only fly so high. Constant change will only make your gunner less accurate on an already bogus mini gun that cannot hit crap.

I don't mean to be mean but... So?
They are balanced, they are just transport overall not meant to be used as an attack chopper.
Plus with any FPS it is always a bad idea to group up with your team mates.

Balanced? A no bullet drop sniper like tracer dart? Auto aim is balanced? At least the tanks can hide under buildings but when you're in the air its nothing but clear shot.
I don't mean to be mean but are you sure you're playing Battlefield? It's almost require to have back up everywhere you go.