Can this game be dumb down anymore?

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  • Redink

    #1

    Can this game be dumb down anymore?

    Giving tank a crosshair in third person view? Seriously... I mean I use this exploit too and I'm not too proud of it, but it just irritates me when in that view you can see anyone trying to sneak up c4 on you.
    -and don't tell me to go play hardcore mode because that's just like going into an all sniper only server...
  • Vreki
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 4226

    #2
    Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

    Third person view in vehicles has been in BF for a long time, so it hasn't really been dumped down from anything.
    Its a trade off between being able to shell things accurately, and being aware of your surroundings. You cant do both.

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    • L-iNC
      Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 141

      #3
      Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

      Yes but this game has crosshair in 3rd person view.

      I've always found 3rd person view in vehicles to be unfair advantage, crosshair or not. At least in this one you can disable it from server side setting, now just need to get every srver do it.

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      • jimykx
        No, I AM your father!
        • Jan 2010
        • 6640

        #4
        Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

        The crosshair in 3d view doesnt do a ****.... try to point the crosshair at something and then switch back to inside, it wont be in the exact same place, speccially when pointing down. The crosshar is big and its not accurate, so its almost basicaly like in other bfs, it just shoes u the center of the screen


        Talking about 3d views, and getting a little out of context:
        a week before launching (2 march) i saw a guy on youtube commenting a video were there was a little of 3d vehicle outside view and he was like this:

        "!omg awsome! it will have 3rd person Capture the flag modes! awsome! i want to play third person modes"

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        • MrChris_CJ
          Mudkips
          • Jul 2005
          • 2610

          #5
          Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

          the 3rd person camera is more or less useless for shooting, the crosshair is the size of a house and even then its usually unreliable

          3rd person camera is best use simply for seeing threats etc or for example picking out tanks behind cover. On Arica harbour etc it can be very useful for seeing approaching enemy vehicles or simply seeing where your rounds are landing when you are bombarding a position

          I couldn't even shoot a humvee that was more or less point blank with the 3rd person camera, its simply a visual tool which I find extremely useful.
          Servers can even disable it, and I don't think the vast majority of vehicle users even use it.

          Hell I only fly in the blackhawk or hind in 3rd person, even in the attack choppers I spend a lot of my time in 3rd person

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          • Vreki
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 4226

            #6
            Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

            IMHO the third person view is necessary for navigating vehicles around all the obstacles.
            Sure it is not realistic, but neither is the tunnel vision you get in the vehicles.

            I usually travel in third person and fight in first person.

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            • jimykx
              No, I AM your father!
              • Jan 2010
              • 6640

              #7
              Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

              Originally posted by Vreki

              I usually travel in third person and fight in first person.
              this

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              • FPS[SONIC]
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 2106

                #8
                Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

                Originally posted by Vreki
                IMHO the third person view is necessary for navigating vehicles around all the obstacles.
                Sure it is not realistic, but neither is the tunnel vision you get in the vehicles.

                I usually travel in third person and fight in first person.
                Originally posted by jimykx
                this
                You got it. Switch views to detect possible threats and then engage in first person.

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                • =MNKY=Frosty
                  Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1079

                  #9
                  Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

                  Originally posted by Redink
                  Giving tank a crosshair in third person view? Seriously... I mean I use this exploit too and I'm not too proud of it, but it just irritates me when in that view you can see anyone trying to sneak up c4 on you.
                  -and don't tell me to go play hardcore mode because that's just like going into an all sniper only server...
                  No offense but all you do is seem to complain about anything the game does which is slightly different from bf2...

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                  • iQue
                    Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 4925

                    #10
                    Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

                    The crosshairs are way off from where you're actually shooting, it's more like a rough estimate. :p

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                    • King Poulet
                      Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 121

                      #11
                      Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

                      Originally posted by =MNKY=Frosty
                      No offense but all you do is seem to complain about anything the game does which is slightly different from bf2...
                      this

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                      • Killerus
                        Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 528

                        #12
                        Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

                        so how exactly is this an exploit?

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                        • CptainCrunch
                          I am the 1%
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 12976

                          #13
                          Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

                          Its not. The 3rd person crosshairs are very innacurate and the 3rd person view has been around forever in Battlefield Games.

                          The crosshairs in 3rd person view is more of a box. If it was a dot or actual crosshairs, I would think it was unfair, but since spalsh damage is not very strong on light tanks and innacurate on heavy, I just dont see it a problem.

                          Besides, people still bail out when they see me planting C4 on them, and thats good enough for me.

                          Crunch
                          Twitter: @CptainCrunch
                          Battlelog/Origin: CptainCrunch

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                          • Yoster
                            Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 569

                            #14
                            Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

                            Since when has Battlefield been about realism? You can mod your server, otherwise, this is how BF is. I personally feel very claustrophobic in the tank's cockpit. So whenever not in battle, I always go 3d for a breather. Also, with the limited 3d, by the time you see a recon with c4 behind you, they are already sticking c4 onto you, and the tank's accelerations stands no chance, so I'm pretty sure tanks would be one of the most vulnerable things in BC2 if they were limited to first person.

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                            • jimykx
                              No, I AM your father!
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 6640

                              #15
                              Re: Can this game be dumb down anymore?

                              Originally posted by CptainCrunch
                              Besides, people still bail out when they see me planting C4 on them, and thats good enough for me.

                              Crunch
                              Hahah awsome

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