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[M0t0rBreath]

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Please O' Please keep the whiners out of here.

[vanilla]

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Actually, quite looking forward to finally buy the game.

[imported_Kalo]

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Can't wait to not see you in BC2.

[jimykx]

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Well, i cant say i dont like the game, ill just play it and shut up. and when i feel i need to bf2 again, ill just go back to bf2 and bf2142 and play it. when i feel like destruction, i'll go to bfbc2 again.
But i have to agree with you with certain aspects: prone commander big/huge maps and a few more are what are missing.
But well lets hope bf3 comes and bring all of that to us , along with destruction. ( whoo dinamic destruction)

Good luck Rambo. I think Vreki is right, if you are wanting BF2, you better stick with it as BF3 is going to be very different. The die hard cod fans hated CoD4 because it was so different.
Crunch

once again, I really hope that what ur saying will be truth.

[JunoPPCLI]

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Again ... its a beta, with one game mode, and one map.

How anyone can make any comments on the maps being to small is an idiot. As you haven't seen or played the maps, so please, for the love of god, STFU when talking about stuff you have no idea about.

Prone is NOT needed.

The game works perfectly well without prone, and prone really does slow down gameplay, if you want bf2, go play bf2.

[imported_Kalo]

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Again ... its a beta, with one game mode, and one map.

How anyone can make any comments on the maps being to small is an idiot. As you haven't seen or played the maps, so please, for the love of god, STFU when talking about stuff you have no idea about.

Prone is NOT needed.

The game works perfectly well without prone, and prone really does slow down gameplay, if you want bf2, go play bf2.

Agreed! But I'm 50 50 on the prone because of this : Cover, my head sticks out when I crouch. Had they implemented a cover system to make it so I don't get "god damnit"'ed every time I take cover I would not be complaining about prone at all. Not sure what everyone else thinks though.

[jimykx]

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Again ... its a beta, with one game mode, and one map.

How anyone can make any comments on the maps being to small is an idiot. As you haven't seen or played the maps, so please, for the love of god, STFU when talking about stuff you have no idea about.

Prone is NOT needed.

The game works perfectly well without prone, and prone really does slow down gameplay, if you want bf2, go play bf2.

Calm down . Were all friends here. But you Have to admin that these maps are smaller than bf2 maps.But we all know why, its because dice want it to be fast placed. and if there were maps like bf2 it wouldnt be. And if youve played bf2 you can obviously see from the maps of the other maps and from what we play in the ps3 beta and pc demo that the maps are quite smaller ( i am not saying theyr not small, i am saying that theyr big for the vehicles they have, but not bigger of course because it has no jets ))

and why theres no prone? its because dice wanted it fast placed too. but we all aready know that. what i was mentioning was what it needed to be bf3. and these are what make us able to distinguish one from another. i didnt sayed i wanted bf2 either i love bfbc and i have preodered it long time ago

[CptainCrunch]

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I dont think the maps are that small. Someone else already said this as well.

The rush mode cuts the maps up and this particular map is narrow. If this map was on conquest it would be huge and very spaced out.

I think that same someone also mentioned looking at Karkand and Cerbere Landing. Both maps are long and narrow. They have limited movement and bottle necks in areas, just like this one.

Crunch

[GunHappyBob]

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Maps to small? Something isn't right with you.

[iQue]

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These drama threads aren't funny anymore.

[Lordsethonan]

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Juno i only complain because us PC guys have waited 5 years in hope,7 years is just too long and i dont know any other company to do this.It really is like EA hate PC guys after we made the title popular to make us wait so long.

I know beta is free and i dont regret downloading it but i want the next BF full game.

On a plus note then i hope they keep bullet drop,the sound and destruction:wee:

If BF3 was here and BC2 was just candy,well that would be awesome for all
I hope BF3 is only a year away or so and it is not in a modern setting,Also 43 where art thou?

See; that is the problem you have.

I wonder why people are making DICE be bigger than they really are. DICE is a relatively small studio, one that cannot crank out 5 games a year; they can't even release a game a year like some other studios out there. they are not iD soft either; they are not spearheading the industry with graphical engines (iD can take all the time they wish, they don't really live off games, they live off licensing their engines) DICE is not Capcom, Konami, Square, Activision (remember when activision MADE gameS?) or blizzard; DICE is not UBIsoft.
DICE is a very young developing studio; they center around a single genre, one they started and perfected: Battlefield.

Bad company is an effort in their part to enter the console developers space; it's the first battlefield game that features a single player campaign; a story mode; and rounds that up with SIMILAr but not quite the same gameplay that is featured in games like BF1942, vietnam, 2 or 2142.

They are also a company that has never been known for their revolutionaru engines, completely bug free codes, and smooth launches. This beta has blown out of the water all of their previous efforts; if YOU, Rambo, as one self proclaimed Battlefield fan, cannot acknowledge the overall improvement in quality and development the company has shown in the past month; then you are looking through rose tinted glasses back on the games you "love".
Just go look on youtube and write down the string "BF2 glitch" and see what comes up. That's your standard? Show me one single video of "pwnahe" that doesn't feature a medic or spec ops dolphin diving all over; or one video of piloting skills that doesn't show base raping from above.

BF2 and even 2142 had their fare share of clitches and bugs, that never got addressed; mainly because DICE lacks the manpower to effectively deal with them; sure, they sold BF2 a lot, but they are far from being an industry giant by any means; the single fact that they can't afford another bomb like Mirror's Edge is evidence of this, that their market is very specific and reduced.

What I'm trying to say is that you can't expect more from a company than what they can provide; EA only publishes their games; and it's great that a company like EA gave DICE a chance and bought them; and Ea might have some say on release dates; but certainly can't force the studio to do something they don't have planned. It was evident since BC1 that DICE is looking to expand their market share; and that *gasp and shock* includes "reducing themselves" to the "lowly" demographic of console players.

Has it never ocurred to you, that they can't risk an IP like BF3 and rush it out the door? That perhaps, I don't know if this makes sense to you, they could start a new IP with no preconceived notions, see what works and what doesn't before commiting themselves to; let's say... remove prone from BF3? Or perhaps start a new graphical engine from scratch; that is compatible with both PC and consoles, and have on e series dedicated to consoles (Bad Company) and keep the main franchise PC centric? (BF3) without risking a bombed release?
Has it never ocurred to you that Bad Company is the new pet game to test stuff before implementing it on the main franchise?

And If; and this is a big IF; what id DICE has decided after testing this that the PC is no longer a viable option to keep their main franchise there? what if they really don't want to deal with all the PC crap and decide instead to focus on consoles since you know, this is all business and it's more practical for them to develop for one single configuration of hardware? what if they find developing for consoles MORE FUN and rewarding for their careers?

And this is by no means a flame; I'm just saying that you are entitled to your opinion; but me and many others will first see what Preston and the gang are up to this time come march 2nd; and then we'll jump into a new multiplayer world; that feels like, but it's not quite the battlefield we knew. And MANY are thankful it is not anything like BF2.

[Rambo]

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maps are as wide as a golfcourse fairway!all linear.period!

If this game had much bigger maps it would be great!flanking ,4x4 tank battles ,2x2 helo battles(is there even 1x1 helo battles?)

I do have issues the gameplay is so fast,more run and gun that tactics and long fire fights

Reason for small maps?consoles cant handle the graphical demand?

Conquest maps are the same "overall" size(check your Downloadable game manual)
I would rather less destruction with bigger maps

1942 and BF2 has set some high bars IMO,I know this is BC2 and I didnt expect epic but i want Battlefield to evolve to be "Epic" again in BF3

[jake_]

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maps are as wide as a golfcourse fairway!all linear.period!

If this game had much bigger maps it would be great!flanking ,4x4 tank battles ,2x2 helo battles(is there even 1x1 helo battles?)

I do have issues the gameplay is so fast,more run and gun that tactics and long fire fights

Reason for small maps?consoles cant handle the graphical demand?

Conquest maps are the same "overall" size(check your Downloadable game manual)
I would rather less destruction with bigger maps

1942 and BF2 has set some high bars IMO,I know this is BC2 and I didnt expect epic but i want Battlefield to evolve to be "Epic" again in BF3

The beta only has the "rush" game mode. The maps are "linear" because gameplay is required to be linear. Conquest maps won't be like that. The beta map is actually quite large, compared to even some BF2142 maps. Try walking the entirety of the map. It'll take you 5 minutes.

Campaign maps will be just as big, but they won't be linear so they'll give the impression of being "bigger" while having probably the same virtual square footage.

It's like something like this: . It's an optical illusion.

These maps seem small be cause the force to to be in a specific location at any given time. If you had freedom to roam the map and capture various flags it would have a completely different feel without actually being any larger.

[CptainCrunch]

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The beta only has the "rush" game mode. The maps are "linear" because gameplay is required to be linear. Conquest maps won't be like that.

He doesn't want to listen Jake_, just be right. Rambo has made up his mind and it doesn't matter what facts or stats anyone puts in front of him, this game blows and thats it.

Sometimes thats how it goes. A game isn't for everyone.

Crunch

[Rambo]

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Im going to shut up,im sure "we " all would like that and im sick of getting infractions by you.

but have you actually seen the Conquest maps in the game manual.