CoDWAW is better than CoD4

[JoMaMaz]

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I agree, but just because it's called Call of Duty and just because it's won numerous awards does not automatically make it a great game. Having a good "experience" is OK for many who don't play much, but having a well-made, quality game is something much, much different.

I believe they go together like PB and J. If you don't have a well-made, quality game, you won't have a good experience with it. Can you have a well-made quality game and not have a good experience with it? :)

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Im glad its back to WW2 but I am glad they have altered the gameplay so its not just like the old ones.

[Kodakk]

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I agree, but just because it's called Call of Duty and just because it's won numerous awards does not automatically make it a great game. Having a good "experience" is OK for many who don't play much, but having a well-made, quality game is something much, much different.

[JoMaMaz]

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I think that we're going to see some very polarizing opinions on this game, as the differences between the fans of "fast/modern" games like COD4, and "slower/WWII" games like previous COD's voice their views.

Nothing at all wrong with that - I've seen people absolutely hate either game (or both, lol). Personally, I wouldn't mind some turnover...there are lots of people who played COD4 like it was UT/Quake/Halo, and that became irritating too. If some of them go away, and some old-school COD/MOH players return, then the mix will change, hopefully for the better. I'm glad that there are some significant differences between this and COD4 coming up.

Agreed also. I could see this was coming when they announced this CoD would be WWII again. A lot of people whined and said, "Not boring WWII again." Others we're thrilled! When I played CoD4, I would laugh a lot of times. B/c of it's popularity, there were a lot of nubs who played it. I'm not trying to appear l33t, I'm just saying, compared to some other fps games, there is a greater percentage of sucky people to good people in CoD4. People hear about the game from others, want to play what the majority of people are playing, and yeah, let the slaughter ensue lol. I say noobs referring to the way they play their game in general. Not necessarily bad shots (although that also), but you can tell the difference between someone who's played any fps before vs this is their first one.

I'm glad the series is back to WWII, and I agree also Whiskey, that hopefully some will leave, and others will come back to the series who left b/c of CoD4. I want the CoD series to be successful, and it is and will be, but some people need to realize this is CoD, not Counterstrike, BF2, or any other game. It has won many awards, been very successful, and is still here today because it is different, or supposed to be , than the other games out there and it delivers an 'experience' to which most games cannot compare.

[iQue]

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Now what did I say a few posts earlier? The trench gun rocks.

But I'm not buying the game because of one weapon. I think the beta will be just fine for me, when it's over I'll be so sick of it I don't need to play it ever again :)

I suppose I might buy it if they fix the rifles.

Oh and btw, I've had some hit detection issues as well. Not sure if it's because everyone plays with a ping over100, but there's something odd about it. I had a point blank trenchgun shot on a sniper do zero damage yesterday... annoying.

[CptainCrunch]

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OMG I've completely changed my opimnion!! This game is such a laugh!! I just go round with my trench gun with baynot (ofc) and bazzoka and just own it up!!! I LOVE the gore!!! its immense just laying in a corner and some dude comes round and you blow his legs off!!! WWOOT man i dunno wether to pre order it again though......

Play it a little longer. You want to be sure. Mix it up some because you will get board playing with only one gun all the time.

Crunch

[Hellsent 2.0]

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OMG I've completely changed my opimnion!! This game is such a laugh!! I just go round with my trench gun with baynot (ofc) and bazzoka and just own it up!!! I LOVE the gore!!! its immense just laying in a corner and some dude comes round and you blow his legs off!!! WWOOT man i dunno wether to pre order it again though......

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S&D has far too long diffuse times imo. I honestly like it as it is, im glad they have moved away from making this a carbon copy of CoD2 with bolts dominating the map, the balance is pretty dam good as of now, much better than CoD4 already.

[Kodakk]

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I love the trenchgun too. I was playing on a server with some friends last night, and I ended up picking up one of their trench guns... feels very powerful, and it's so much fun to use!

Search and Destroy is fun, but really only on Castle. The maps in the beta are too big and feel more like an overgrown than a well laid out map... ex: you can plant the bomb and then hide almost anywhere, meaning defusing the bomb is extremely difficult (more so than it should be). Also, I'm getting used to the ingame sounds (although I still utterly despise some sounds... like how the thompson sounds like a pistol in 3rd person, can't even tell it's automatic) but the SD plant/defuse sounds are way too low!

So far, the game is growing on me, but I really need to see some work done to the sounds and rifles before I seriously consider buying it. There is no reason for semi-automatic rifles to be better, such as in overall power, say... the Garand does 60% damage and the bolt does 80%, they both need 2 shots to kill, meaning the Garand is a better choice because of the semi-automatic capabilities.

[The_Eliminator]

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Well me and a mate decided to test on an empty server.

It seems the knife doesnt have that "lunge" effect it had in CoD4 which is perhaps why i have been missing because i have been knifing a bit too far away.

[Evil Spongebob]

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One of the things i dont like about the maps so far is the change over between which team owns which side of the spawn points is too fast because the maps are so small. You can find that you can spawn in your "base" but wait 5 seconds and its the other teams base. It doesnt really give you much of a safe zone which i liked in CoD4 to gather your thoughts as such.


And is it just me or is the knife hit detection completed wack? I was running behind someone and he stopped, i stabbed the knife and got the stab animation about 3 times then on the 4th go i got the kill.

just you...knifing and bayoneting works fine for me

[The_Eliminator]

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One of the things i dont like about the maps so far is the change over between which team owns which side of the spawn points is too fast because the maps are so small. You can find that you can spawn in your "base" but wait 5 seconds and its the other teams base. It doesnt really give you much of a safe zone which i liked in CoD4 to gather your thoughts as such.


And is it just me or is the knife hit detection completed wack? I was running behind someone and he stopped, i stabbed the knife and got the stab animation about 3 times then on the 4th go i got the kill.

[ThatEvilGuy]

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So far, I have to say I really like the maps and for some reason, I get killed less by arty and dogs then in cod4, where I couldn't walk a bit without something shooting me, the maps are great.

Bolt actions rifles are very underpowered, and IMHO useless, I don't know what they did with the engine/game but there is some fundamental flaw since rifles were deadly in cod1 and especially in cod2 mixed in with the same automatics.

rifles(semi-auto) are too powerful, no recoil and very fast, almost as fast as you can click.

sub machine guns are balanced and nice, there is recoil, accuracy is correct.

heavy machine guns(bar, bren), are well balanced as well, slow reloading, feel heavier but more powerful.

machine guns(mg42,...) are IMHO stupid, I mean come on, you must be prone to shoot them, you shouldn't be able to shoot them from the hip and there is hardly any recoil, machine guns should be like in Day of defeat 2, very big recoil when shooting from the hip.

and lastly the trenchgun, I was really impressed with, I loved the trenchgun and used it a lot, it's very well balanced as well, a bit weaker than in Cod2, it's deadly at a close range, but loses it's power fast at medium and longer range, and the gun itself feels and looks much better than any cod4 shotguns which were absolutely useless, atleast I couldn't use them at all, with trenchgun and the current maps, you can hold your own against the sprayers and even win.

sniping feels weird, it's neither cod4's too easy sniping nor cod's skill requiring sniping, it feels just odd, but I like the rifles.

Overall, it's what you would expect from a cod game, so I will probably buy it.

Oh and one HUGE point over CoD4, less nade spam, omg, less nade spam! thanks trayarch for less nade spam!

[iQue]

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Kay, been playing my *** off just so I could unlock the Mosin-Nagant... it still won't kill with a shot to the chest :/ It does seem to have slightly higher damage than the other bolties but not much. The scope differs a lot from the earlier cods as well

But man is the trenchgun fun! Only thing I really like to do this far, the rest is pretty boring lol.

[imported_Whiskey]

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I just took a bit of a closer look at a server config file...wow, custom servers are really going to rock. There are SO many things that can be EASILY adjusted without having super modding skills, including:

- perks on/off
- individual values of some perks (eg. damage flak jacket can protect from)
- individual (or all) killstreaks on/off
- health, total number of dogs, number of dogs on map at one time (if you keep them)
- health & respawn time of vehicles, and whether driver is protected
etc, etc.

And that's just from my (very) limited knowledge of these configs.

I think the "classic" game that many people want (or close to it) is probably a reality. Competitive players will probably like a lot of these options too.