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  • ShadowHawk86

    #16
    Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

    Pirates pirate games because there is rarely a great game out there anymore. Most of the major studios rush their game because they set a date and feel like they must make that date (cough EA). So they put a crappy underdeveloped game on the market instead of taking a few years to build a game from the ground up and make it truly revolutionary and worth buying. Even most SP games contain fewer hours than some of the classics.

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    • =98=
      Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 10299

      #17
      Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

      Originally posted by ShadowHawk86
      Pirates pirate games because there is rarely a great game out there anymore. Most of the major studios rush their game because they set a date and feel like they must make that date (cough EA). So they put a crappy underdeveloped game on the market instead of taking a few years to build a game from the ground up and make it truly revolutionary and worth buying. Even most SP games contain fewer hours than some of the classics.
      You see, the issue there is that Crysis and Stalker did exactly that... and then recieved the most piracy of all. All that money spent developing doesn't look like a great investment now.

      That's why companies don't want to spend years developing. Plus, they also have to meet budgets, so developing a game for years brings in no revenue, so you need to get the game out in order to pay off loans and shareholders.

      It is not as simple as don't release the game, work on it for longer. There are a lot of negative externalities which can seriously effect a developers liquidity if they delay.

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      • ShadowHawk86

        #18
        Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

        Originally posted by Alex98uk
        You see, the issue there is that Crysis and Stalker did exactly that... and then recieved the most piracy of all. All that money spent developing doesn't look like a great investment now.

        That's why companies don't want to spend years developing. Plus, they also have to meet budgets, so developing a game for years brings in no revenue, so you need to get the game out in order to pay off loans and shareholders.

        It is not as simple as don't release the game, work on it for longer. There are a lot of negative externalities which can seriously effect a developers liquidity if they delay.
        True, the other issue is there is a lot of sloth though and that is why games get pirated.

        When I said spend time I also mean spend time on anti-piracy measures.

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        • =98=
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 10299

          #19
          Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

          The only 99% way to stop piracy is to create online registration and online checks. That is why MP games such as CSS and BF2 cannot be pirated.

          Try doing that to single player game and listen to the masses of complaints.

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          • megawhompertoo
            oldswab
            • Dec 2005
            • 2124

            #20
            Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

            Originally posted by Alex98uk
            It is not as simple as don't release the game, work on it for longer. There are a lot of negative externalities which can seriously effect a developers liquidity if they delay.
            Duke Nukem Forever...In Development, anyone? Or bonus points for anyone who can name the longest game ever in development that was actually, eventually released?


















            hint: it had 3000ADDED bugs

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            • Iwantcable
              Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 2362

              #21
              Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

              Originally posted by megawhompertoo
              Duke Nukem Forever...In Development, anyone? Or bonus points for anyone who can name the longest game ever in development that was actually, eventually released?


              hint: it had 3000ADDED bugs
              Prey?

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              • iQue
                Member
                • May 2007
                • 4925

                #22
                Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                I if I want a single song, I'll pirate it just as Manic. Otherwise I'll buy the album.

                I have pirated games, but mostly really really old ones you can't buy anymore (like SimCity 2000) or when the game didn't have a demo and I really wanted to give it a try before buying it.

                I'm a big big user of ***** cracks though

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                • Webs961

                  #23
                  Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                  Let's face it, most people who pirate games just don't want to pay for it. Period. Full stop. Same with music and movies (MOST of the time). Why pay for something when you can get the same product for free. As Alex said, the only method publishers can employ to stop this type of piracy is to use online activation systems, and even those will be breached at some point by someone determined enough not to pay for something (and THOSE are the people that just like to beat the system).

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                  • solofowaffles
                    Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 4306

                    #24
                    Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                    Crysis was pirated like crazy because no one felt like forking over 50 dollars without knowing if the game would run decently.The story was a complete bore till the very end as well.

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                    • Eagle101

                      #25
                      Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                      Yet i see that when a game is pirated you can only play offline, i.e. like Kane and Lynch which is a "rent SP" kind of game, i got Kane and Lynch(PC) for 4quid at a exchange shop.

                      Games such as WiC, CSS, TF2, BF2 you know MP games can not be played online if pirated. Although this is an endless topic, the discussion/debate can go way long in a circle hence endless.

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                      • =98=
                        Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 10299

                        #26
                        Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                        Originally posted by [WS] Stephensolofo
                        Crysis was pirated like crazy because no one felt like forking over 50 dollars without knowing if the game would run decently.The story was a complete bore till the very end as well.
                        No, 99% of people just didn't want to pay for the singleplayer game (because reviews had already said MP was awful).

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                        • [Expletive Deleted]
                          The Penetrator
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2855

                          #27
                          Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                          I pirate games every once in a while to see if they are really as bad as I've heard. Of course, I won't pay for a game that I know is horrible. Iron Man and Incredible Hulk are the first two that come to mind. Those games are sh1t coated sh1t with sh1t filling.

                          Then there are games I wish I had pirated instead of paying for them first. If I had known that Crysis was going to have lame multi-player and a trite, frustrating single-player, I wouldn't have bought it. I didn't believe people telling me that everything after the jungles is lame. The VTOL mission stands out as sh1t. The damned thing would just explode for no reason from time to time and it handled worse than the skycow in BF2. I hated the zero-g level, as it was just boring. And when I got to the end, it was jacked so I never got a lock. It took going back to a save game a half hour prior in order to actually kill that last boss. Shenanigans. The nanosuit is a neat gimmick. Having super powers for little 3 second tastes is not neat, though. It's lame.

                          I also wish I had pirated UTIII instead of buying it. For a game based almost solely on multi-player, there sure aren't multiple players playing it. I was really hoping it would make it, too. UT2k4 runs like Rosie O'Donnell on my current computers. I'm not sure why, really. The FPS alternates between 500 and 1 FPS every other second. Oh well. See, I paid for another game that doesn't work now. I bought UT2K4 FOUR times. One CDROM version each for my wife and me. The DVD collector's edition. And Unreal Anthology. Now the thing isn't playable.
                          COD4 is a little different. I actually pirated it the first time, to see how the single player would run. It ran flawlessly. 1600x1200 4xAA, everything high, I got a solid 60 FPS with Vsync enabled. It NEVER dropped below 60. So I went out and bought the game so I could play the multiplayer. I still mostly have decent framerates. I only join servers with ~50 ping. But for some reason people have managed to get a perk I don't see in the manual. They ****ing teleport all over the place. My hit-reg sucks. I knife someone in the back only to have them magically be three feet to the right of me and spraying with whatever. I wish I had never bought the game, as it does nothing but piss me off.
                          BF2 is the same way. Bullets fly right through enemies. Then people say to aim for the hitbox, or some nonsense. Poorly coded games do not need to be supported. They should be allowed to die. No one should spend money on them and encourage the developers to continue shoveling crap out at us.
                          Then there are games that I pirated because there was no accessible demo and I wanted to be sure they would run. F.E.A.R., Oblivion, Marvel: UA, Titan Quest. All of which I bought shortly after downloading them. Oblivion has crashed more times than I can count. Oddly, it never crashed until I paid for it. I still attempted to play it for hundreds of hours, so I guess it was still worth it.

                          So I have pirated for many reasons, yet I still manage to spend stupid amounts of money on good games and bad games.

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                          • iQue
                            Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 4925

                            #28
                            Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                            Originally posted by Jimtool655321
                            *snip*
                            You, my sir, have a lot of bad luck.

                            CoD4 has one of the best hit regs available imo and Crysis was awesome :laugh:

                            Try googling for some CoD4 console commands and BF2 tweaks that could give you better hit reg... To me, it's funny how everyone bitches about crappy hit detection in BF because it has always worked flawlessly for me.

                            Try downloading the latest drivers if you haven't done that yet and check your computer cables.

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                            • KillerStickMan
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 817

                              #29
                              Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                              My only comment on this is that the whole, "I wanted to see if Crysis would run on my rig." excuse for pirating Crysis is complete ****ing ******** and it pisses me off every time i see it. And you know why? Because there is a DEMO for it...

                              And also, why would someone want to spend the time going to the store to buy a game, and then uninstall their pirated copy when they could just play their pirated copy?

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                              • Iwantcable
                                Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 2362

                                #30
                                Re: Why do Pirates pirate? (read the whole article here)

                                Originally posted by [WS] KillerStickMan
                                And also, why would someone want to spend the time going to the store to buy a game, and then uninstall their pirated copy when they could just play their pirated copy?
                                Multiplayer is better on non-cracked servers.

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