Loser commanders wasting resource.

[gypsyd01]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

I don't play sniper nearly as much as I used to as it really isn't an effective kit to play in (unless in IO server and you have dragonov).

However, manys the time I've been sniping away in Jalalabad and the arty has come in on me and me only. from a commanders point of veiw I find this a complete waist of arty and can only feel sorry for the guys I'm fighting as their commander can't see the big picture.

Do I mind being artied? No it just means my team mates can cap another flag without fear of being owned.

[MIKEHUNT-UK]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Sniping a spawn point, you deserve all what you get and more!

[ElFipso]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Given the fact that you were spawncamping I would have dropped arty on you too, just to keep you from using a cheap tactic to get kills.

Usually I send a squad to kill the lonely sniper as long as he is a real threat to my team.

If it's not far away from my position I would even turn into a fighting commander and just kill the spawnkiller myself.

Really depends on the situation. But spawnkillers deserve everything the get themselves killed :nod:

[The Laughing Man]

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stops reading there, it doesn't matter, ur a spawn camper so gtfo

I was sitting over looking my own spawn and hitting an enemy spawn so far away single hit kills were near impossible, meaning if I killed you you had hung around messing about for long enough to allow me to take 2 or 3 shots, in that case you deserve to die.

LOL touched a nerve, sounds like a few of you guys have had your a*s handed to you by a decent well hidden sniper.

[zone36]

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Ok, I'm going to expand a little here..

As a sniper, I've had my share of exclusive arty drops. Playing as I do, I pick spots that afford me the most protection and concealment (preferably a spot resistant to arty and car drops), while giving me a decent field of vision from which to pick off the enemy team. Where is the best place to acquire enemy infantry? A spawn point. To those complaining about this, wake up.. that is the job of the Sniper kit.

Back to it.. often times, spawning ground troops stand no chance against a good sniper because of the distance advantage he/she has. (The exception would be for the enemy team to spawn their own sniper, but then they need to know where the shots are coming from and hope they can zero in quick enough, etc). Add to this the fact I usually set up my claymores defensively, so that even if they do manage to close range, they get to deal with those things.

My point being.. it's faster and easier for the enemy commander to drop an atry on me and eliminate the threat, than try to have his ground troops piss about trying to get me, and probably getting killed in the process and losing tickets. Ideally, the best thing a commander can and should do (but this depends on the situation and the map) is spot the sniper, and let armor (or a chopper) deal with it.

Trust me, no round was ever lost because 1 arty strike was spent taking out a lone sniper.

[ElFipso]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

I was sitting over looking my own spawn and hitting an enemy spawn so far away single hit kills were near impossible, meaning if I killed you you had hung around messing about for long enough to allow me to take 2 or 3 shots, in that case you deserve to die.

LOL touched a nerve, sounds like a few of you guys have had your a*s handed to you by a decent well hidden sniper.

Haha, read your first post again..., it sounds quite different there.
So you said you were the only guy there, none of your guys, and you were covering your flag (where obviously none of your guys spawns) and sniping at the enemy spawn, where you can't kill a thing unless it's the enemy commander (not moving), or maybe an idling player. You said "i was in a good position".
I think the commander dropped the arty on you because you were always spawnkilling him. He should have moved, but still it's a cheap tactic.

Ok, I'm going to expand a little here..
As a sniper, I've had my share of exclusive arty drops. Playing as I do, I pick spots that afford me the most protection and concealment (preferably a spot resistant to arty and car drops), while giving me a decent field of vision from which to pick off the enemy team. Where is the best place to acquire enemy infantry? A spawn point. To those complaining about this, wake up.. that is the job of the Sniper kit.

:shakehead: that's like: where's the best place to put claymores? Correct: a spawnpoint!
Where's the best place to put C4? Right a spawnpoint!
And yes, wheres the best point to camp with a tank? you wouldn't believe it, but it's spawnpoint!

If you have just a little bit of honour, you wouldn't spawnkill, and that's it.
The only situation when it's OK for me is when you are taking the flag and covering the spawns.
But anything else is gameplay for cowards

FipZ

[zone36]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

:shakehead: that's like: where's the best place to put claymores? Correct: a spawnpoint!
Where's the best place to put C4? Right a spawnpoint!
And yes, wheres the best point to camp with a tank? you wouldn't believe it, but it's spawnpoint!

You're generalizing way too much there.. let's keep it with the Sniper kit.

What is the sniper supposed to do offensively if not attacking spawn points? Hide and wait for the random foot soldier to run by? Defend already captured CPs? No.. a Sniper should be making his way behind enemy lines and attacking the spawn and doing whatever damage they can until the main force arrives to take it. You can't even compare that to camping with a tank; apples to oranges.

[MIKEHUNT-UK]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

You're generalizing way too much there.. let's keep it with the Sniper kit.

What is the sniper supposed to do offensively if not attacking spawn points? Hide and wait for the random foot soldier to run by? Defend already captured CPs? No.. a Sniper should be making his way behind enemy lines and attacking the spawn and doing whatever damage they can until the main force arrives to take it. You can't even compare that to camping with a tank; apples to oranges.

Now you know why you get the Arty on your head!

[{USI}_DirTyDeeDs]

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this post has motivated me to arty nothing but snipers! :thumbsup:

[The Laughing Man]

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Haha, read your first post again..., it sounds quite different there.
So you said you were the only guy there, none of your guys, and you were covering your flag (where obviously none of your guys spawns) and sniping at the enemy spawn, where you can't kill a thing unless it's the enemy commander (not moving), or maybe an idling player. You said "i was in a good position".
I think the commander dropped the arty on you because you were always spawnkilling him. He should have moved, but still it's a cheap tactic.

I was on Gulf Of Oman on top of the building, from here you have a clear view of at least five spawn points, my team had the spawn points along the front of the water. These are the ones they start off with when the game beings. They were moving forward to capture the construction point spawn as a result most of my team mates were using the two spawns located closest to the spawn they were trying to capture. The construction point was the target I was hitting a legitimate target as I was helping the team. As my team mates stormed the spawn point instead of hitting them with the arty the commander hit me instead losing the spawn and losing potentially a hell of a lot of kills.

Now perhaps the commander was there but to be honest only a stupid commander would hold up in a capable spawn location. Chances are he was hidden at the airfield a spawn point well beyond my visual range.

If you have just a little bit of honour, you wouldn't spawnkill, and that's it.
The only situation when it's OK for me is when you are taking the flag and covering the spawns.
But anything else is gameplay for cowards

LOL that's comical, making up on the spot rules to limit the valid actions of others, that's what being a coward is.

[zone36]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Now you know why you get the Arty on your head!

I never claimed I didn't.. my arguement is in support of it. See below..

My point being.. it's faster and easier for the enemy commander to drop an atry on me and eliminate the threat, than try to have his ground troops piss about trying to get me, and probably getting killed in the process and losing tickets.

[predragjanjic]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

I was on Gulf Of Oman on top of the building, from here you have a clear view of at least five spawn points, my team had the spawn points along the front of the water. These are the ones they start off with when the game beings. They were moving forward to capture the construction point spawn as a result most of my team mates were using the two spawns located closest to the spawn they were trying to capture. The construction point was the target I was hitting a legitimate target as I was helping the team. As my team mates stormed the spawn point instead of hitting them with the arty the commander hit me instead losing the spawn and losing potentially a hell of a lot of kills.

Now perhaps the commander was there but to be honest only a stupid commander would hold up in a capable spawn location. Chances are he was hidden at the airfield a spawn point well beyond my visual range.



LOL that's comical, making up on the spot rules to limit the valid actions of others, that's what being a coward is.

where would this game be if there were no rules at all?

sure some rules are ridiculous but "no spawn killing" is perfectly fine and fair

just like "no arty on main and no attacking main if u dont have all flags


if ur one of those guys who thinks "its war, u can do anything you want" then you need to get a life

[The Laughing Man]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

where would this game be if there were no rules at all?

sure some rules are ridiculous but "no spawn killing" is perfectly fine and fair

just like "no arty on main and no attacking main if u dont have all flags


if ur one of those guys who thinks "its war, u can do anything you want" then you need to get a life

Nope it isn't war it's a game based representation of war, not a very realistic one but still it's a game. I won't however sit here and listen to someone call an entire group of folk who are playing the game in a legit fashion 'cowards' whilst also making up generic rules which are designed solely to cover their own backside in game.

I play on a no rules server so deal with it if you're in a spawn, capable or other wise, then you're a target. Now you can sit there screaming no honour or coward but end of the day all you're doing is screaming and it won't change the fact that you're still a target.

If I play on a server with rules I follow the rules I however play on no rules servers most of the time, if you're unwilling to play on no rules servers then perhaps you're the coward?

[ElFipso]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Wow, that's incredible, that some ppl seem to consider "sniping at spawnpoint" as TEH JOB FOR A SNIPER.
I can imagine yourself on your builing top killing the poor idler again and again thinking:"OMG I'm so 1337! Cause I know how to snipe!"

Do whatever you want on no rules servers. They are there for a reason. But don't think you've understood the game and the other 80% of BF2 gamers haven't (that's the percentage I would say that spawnkill on purpose, but I may be wrong with that)

[The Laughing Man]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Do whatever you want on no rules servers. They are there for a reason. But don't think you've understood the game and the other 80% of BF2 gamers haven't (that's the percentage I would say that spawnkill on purpose, but I may be wrong with that)

Oh this should be good, okay Elfipso in your infinite wisdom what is their to be 'understood' about this game that us ordinary folk who play it for fun have some how missed?