Loser commanders wasting resource.

[jesus]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Has EA layed down specific rules that each kit has to follow, otherwise they'll be banned?

If no, then please stop telling me how to use my kit.
If yes, then please link me to where they say it.

I'll do whatever I want in BF2, as long as I follow the rules on the server. I'll cap flags by hovering over them with the F35 if I want to.

I've never been told to stop doing something because it's not helping my team.

[predragjanjic]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

this isnt about EA rofl


you are still to young to understand some things but itll come to you............hopefully

[jesus]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

this isnt about EA rofl


you are still to young to understand some things but itll come to you............hopefully

Right, and if I had set my age to 30, then what would you have said? Gtfo, plz

[The Laughing Man]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Hmmm, well he gave me some b*llocks about honour and what the game would be like with out rules.

It made me remember the way folk played Monopoly as a kid, they could never be bothered learning to play it correctly so they applied a whole bunch of arbitrary rules designed solely to make the game easier for them to play. I don't really see how this is any different just that kids didn''t use meaningless speeches about honour in a feeble attempt to defend why they needed to make the game easier for them to play.

[predragjanjic]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Right, and if I had set my age to 30, then what would you have said? Gtfo, plz

I would feel even more sad for you

Hmmm, well he gave me some b*llocks about honour and what the game would be like with out rules.

It made me remember the way folk played Monopoly as a kid, they could never be bothered learning to play it correctly so they applied a whole bunch of arbitrary rules designed solely to make the game easier for them to play. I don't really see how this is any different just that kids didn''t use meaningless speeches about honour in a feeble attempt to defend why they needed to make the game easier for them to play.

this is a video game, there need to be rules in order for everyone to have a chance to win

of course there are rules that are just dumb like I said earlier but some of the basic rules need to be there in every server and you people need to use common sense more, I just don't see how you are not understanding this?

whats so hard to understand?

or are you just arguing coz you don't wanna accept the fact that you are wrong?


maybe you should try to leard the game and play it with some skill then youll understand that base raping and spawn camping is nothing but noob tactics and its only causing problems in a server

[jesus]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

I would feel even more sad for you



this is a video game, there need to be rules in order for everyone to have a chance to win

of course there are rules that are just dumb like I said earlier but some of the basic rules need to be there in every server and you people need to use common sense more, I just don't see how you are not understanding this?

whats so hard to understand?

or are you just arguing coz you don't wanna accept the fact that you are wrong?


maybe you should try to leard the game and play it with some skill then youll understand that base raping and spawn camping is nothing but noob tactics and its only causing problems in a server

Just because YOU, a whiner, think spawn camping is wrong, doesn't mean everyone else does. Spawn camping sucks when it's happening to you, but when it's you that's spawn camping, it's a completely different story.

The only people I've ever seen complain about spawn campers are people on forums who don't even play anymore, and the people on the other team. And I couldn't care less about either of those people. On a 32vs32 server, you'll never be told to stop spawn camping unless you were spawn camping an uncap and it was against the rules.

If DICE and EA really didn't want spawn camping at uncaps they could have implemented red lines over enemy uncaps, or even auto-turrents like in Crysis.

It doesn't matter what you and the other internet heroes say, or do, you won't stop people from spawn camping. And calling people "inethical" or "noob" because they like camping as a sniper certainly isn't helping you very much. Either find a server that has rules against it, or uninstall BF2 and find another game. (But good luck with that, because almost every other FPS has spawn camping. Maybe you should just quit playing FPS all together if you can't stand spawn camping)

And just so you know I get spawn camped all the time but it's soooo easy to avoid. You'd have to suck at the game if you can't kill a lone, or even a few camping snipers at your uncap.

[predragjanjic]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Ill just let you figure the whole thing out by ur self, there is no point in arguing with you coz you obviously have no idea what im talking about here

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Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Just because YOU, a whiner, think spawn camping is wrong, doesn't mean everyone else does. Spawn camping sucks when it's happening to you, but when it's you that's spawn camping, it's a completely different story.

The only people I've ever seen complain about spawn campers are people on forums who don't even play anymore, and the people on the other team. And I couldn't care less about either of those people. On a 32vs32 server, you'll never be told to stop spawn camping unless you were spawn camping an uncap and it was against the rules.

If DICE and EA really didn't want spawn camping at uncaps they could have implemented red lines over enemy uncaps, or even auto-turrents like in Crysis.

It doesn't matter what you and the other internet heroes say, or do, you won't stop people from spawn camping. And calling people "inethical" or "noob" because they like camping as a sniper certainly isn't helping you very much. Either find a server that has rules against it, or uninstall BF2 and find another game. (But good luck with that, because almost every other FPS has spawn camping. Maybe you should just quit playing FPS all together if you can't stand spawn camping)

And just so you know I get spawn camped all the time but it's soooo easy to avoid. You'd have to suck at the game if you can't kill a lone, or even a few camping snipers at your uncap.

Don't be an idiot. Seriously, if spawn camping was OK you would see Ultimate Fighters running into their opponents' houses and kicking the **** out of them in their sleep. Obviously, that is totally not cool to kick the **** of a defenseless opponent. So how could ANYONE argue for spawn camping? It's OK if you're the one doing it? Yeah, and I would feel really good about myself if I went to someone's house and beat the piss out of someone in their sleep. I'd feel like a real champion then.
Because that's what you're trying to have us believe. That you think you're a hero for kicking the crap out of people who haven't had a chance to spawn/wake up. At least you're proud of being a douche and not a hypocrite about it, I guess.

And I do still play the game. I'm in the attack helicopter killing you from 450m away with a TV missile after my teammates spot you spawn camping. And then you cry hacker and get me kicked because I did it without a gunner.

Let me guess, you're an admin of a server and kick people who spawn camp the carrier while half your team is camping the enemy uncap? Maybe you ARE a hypocrite.

And I have been in squads with snipers that were almost good enough to be cheating. There were four of them, me as support and one medic. I didn't even know what they were shooting at as I kept getting ammo points because they were killing people spawning at a flag 400m away on Kubra. Yeah, I was an enabler and just as bad, really. But they showed real skill. Shooting people before they even got into the jets, one guy with the M95 cleaning up any who managed to get into a vehicle. We got a lot of points but it wasn't even fun for anyone.

[predragjanjic]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

:worship:

[jesus]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Don't be an idiot. Seriously, if spawn camping was OK you would see Ultimate Fighters running into their opponents' houses and kicking the **** out of them in their sleep. Obviously, that is totally not cool to kick the **** of a defenseless opponent. So how could ANYONE argue for spawn camping? It's OK if you're the one doing it? Yeah, and I would feel really good about myself if I went to someone's house and beat the piss out of someone in their sleep. I'd feel like a real champion then.
Because that's what you're trying to have us believe. That you think you're a hero for kicking the crap out of people who haven't had a chance to spawn/wake up. At least you're proud of being a douche and not a hypocrite about it, I guess.

And I do still play the game. I'm in the attack helicopter killing you from 450m away with a TV missile after my teammates spot you spawn camping. And then you cry hacker and get me kicked because I did it without a gunner.

Let me guess, you're an admin of a server and kick people who spawn camp the carrier while half your team is camping the enemy uncap? Maybe you ARE a hypocrite.

And I have been in squads with snipers that were almost good enough to be cheating. There were four of them, me as support and one medic. I didn't even know what they were shooting at as I kept getting ammo points because they were killing people spawning at a flag 400m away on Kubra. Yeah, I was an enabler and just as bad, really. But they showed real skill. Shooting people before they even got into the jets, one guy with the M95 cleaning up any who managed to get into a vehicle. We got a lot of points but it wasn't even fun for anyone.

You didn't give much of an argument, especially since your entire post was mostly assumptions.

And since you want to relate BF2 to real life, then atleast use something relevant. Ultimate fighting? seriously? lol

BF2 is a game about war, so why don't you compare it to war? When the germans used chlorine gas, do you think they felt inethical for using a cheap tactic?

Do you think the troops in the middle east feel inethical when they roll up in their tanks, and APCs? Do you think they feel bad when they drop a bomb from one of their F18s, or whatever jets they use? And all they're fighting are insurgants with AKs and rocket launchers. That doesn't seem too fair, does it? I'm sure they do feel bad, but guess what? That's war, and you do whatever it takes to win.

Just remember that if EA and DICE wanted to rule out spawn camping of uncaps, they could have easily done it.

I guess you could say I'm defending spawn camping, but really I'm just arguing against people that try to tell others how they should play. Maybe you should mind your own business and let people play how they want to? Did that thought ever cross your mind? Aslong as they're not breaking the rules set by the admins, then ANYTHING goes, whether you like it or not.

Again, relating BF2 to real life (you started it ): Life isn't fair, and neither is BF2

By the way, what your described in your ultimate fighting comparison would be against the rules in the sport of ultimate fighting, therefore, not allowed. If spawn camping was against the rules on a server then it's not allowed and anyone doing it should be kicked from the server. However, on most servers spawn camping is allowed in some way or another (some ban vehicles, but allow infantry) where as in ultimate fighting it's against the rules no matter what.

[waaah_wah]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

^^Did you just say that there arent any rules in war?

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

I think what he means is that "when sh!t hits the fan, youll do anything to survive, rules or regulations matter less than the screams of survival instinct" and its very true.

I like the mentality our sappeurs and infantry is taught in basics here. They teach you to take a roll of barbed wire, plant the middle hole full of explosives, and use it as a makeshift anti infantry bomb. Its colossal in its damage, and often leaves people with serious wounds as opposed to killing them, but its necessary nonetheless. Kind of like the freedom fighters/ insurgents have no rules when they need to inflict maximum damage.

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Im on a mixed position on this argument. From one perspective, certain rules, when applied, will make a round in BF2, a videogame, more enjoyable. Ive practiced the "Lets go for the gold!" mentality a lot, when me and my squad of buds work hard, capping flags and frogging around, and taking the carrier or UCB as that last prize.

However, since its a videogame everyone plays for their own personal enjoyement, if its mechanics allow exploitation of peoples voulnerability (not malicious exploitation of the engine), then why not? Its their fun.

[jesus]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

Yeah, pretty much, Chris.

I also meant that nothing is ever fair, including BF2. Just looks at the jets. If the pilot is above average, then the only thing that will take him out is another jet. And on pub servers (which are the servers that the majority play BF2 on) avoiding other jets is pretty easy. How's this fair against infantry? It's not, and the pilot of the jet will most likely finish in first place, but it's part of the game, so deal with it.

If the server's only rules are "No hacking/glitching" then guess what? Anything goes aslong as you're not using hacks, or putting yourself into buildings. Want to put C4 on your DPV and then drive it up to an enemy tank and detonate the C4? Go ahead, because it's not against the rules! Is it fair for the poor, innocent, unsuspecting tank? Not really.

I know I'd much rather have a sniper spawn camping me than a jet constantly strafing and bombing the uncap. But even if the jet was spawn camping then, oh well. I'd just deal with it by spawning at another base.

(This isn't directed at anyone inparticular)
How do you get spawn camped, anyway? When you respawn, do you go AFK for 5 minutes or something? Maybe instead of sitting on the airfield waiting for the jet to respawn while being an easy target for a sniper, you get in an APC or tank and go take flags or defend ones you already have? Even just getting kills helps your team because as soon as the guy you killed respawns, they lose a ticket.

[The Laughing Man]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

this is a video game, there need to be rules in order for everyone to have a chance to win

Yeah like I said to allow those that aren't good enough to win with the base rules by making the game a good deal easier just for them.

whats so hard to understand?

Nothing you can't play the game with the basic rules so to cope with your own failings you justify the inclusion of rules designed to make your life easier.

or are you just arguing coz you don't wanna accept the fact that you are wrong?

Please tell me what EXACTLY I am wrong about.

Honour, or lack of, in spawn camping, b*llocks it's a game nothing you can ever do or ever will do within a gaming environement will mean anything and if the way I play a game is what you use to base your opinion of who I am on, then I couldn't care less what you think.

Spawn camping as a sniper is easy, b*llocks as well, not withstanding the fact you're going to be the closest person to the biggest source of enemies you have to also get in to a position without being spotted and given that enemies can easily spawn several at a time in different locations it just takes one person to clock your position and you're toast.

or

Perhaps the original topic of the post, that the commander could have gotten several kills and saved or at least delayed the capture of a spawn point but instead decided to waste his arty round on a significantly less important target?

maybe you should try to leard the game and play it with some skill then youll understand that base raping and spawn camping is nothing but noob tactics and its only causing problems in a server

That's the stupidest thing you've said in this entire topic. You know NOTHING about my game play style NOTHING. I could give you more details about what I do with my character but what do I care what you think. If you got an issue bring it to the game. I play UKWF (that will suit you since it does have rules) and TV2 Dragon Valley, no rules I'll be the one sniping your spawn I suppose you'll be the one whining about unfair gameplay.

[[Expletive Deleted]]

Re: Loser commanders wasting resource.

I had this long post ready to submit, but I've realized that if you're working this hard to justify being an dickhole I don't want to communicate with you further.