An Ironic Fix for my lag

[jake_]

Re: An Ironic Fix for my lag

I'm done with Intel, will buy AMD next time. I hope the new nVidia Hybrid can really save power while not gaming.

OMG you're an idiot. Go visit the Tech Center sometime.

Pentium D's perform like SH!T. Don't ever use one. They are really hot and barely better than a Pentium 4. I wouldn't expect that to cause any improvement.
Also, a Pentium D is not the same as a Core 2 Duo. A C2D is WAAAAAY faster and more efficient than a Pentium D or Pentium 4.


As for the 8800GS, it is not a very good card, but using a Pentium D processor will definitely bottleneck it (not allow it to use its full capacity).

[Shazanelli]

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Here's a link for people to see if their rig is up to running 2142 sufficiently. Will let you know if anything is bottlenecking you.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest

[AvalancheDiode]

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OMG you're an idiot. Go visit the Tech Center sometime.

Pentium D's perform like SH!T. Don't ever use one. They are really hot and barely better than a Pentium 4. I wouldn't expect that to cause any improvement.
Also, a Pentium D is not the same as a Core 2 Duo. A C2D is WAAAAAY faster and more efficient than a Pentium D or Pentium 4.


As for the 8800GS, it is not a very good card, but using a Pentium D processor will definitely bottleneck it (not allow it to use its full capacity).

Nope. You don't know the whole story about this. My rig is already 2.5 years old and the only thing I've done before this major upgrade is increasing RAM from 512 to 2Gig. I know that C2D is way faster than Pentium D, BUT MY MOTHERBOARD DON'T SUPPORT ANYTHING AFTER Pentium D 8xx. For $50 I think it's not the greatest bargain, but not too far off either. New E2160 still costs around $70 on newegg.com. So, both Pentium D and 8800GS ($120 after rebate) are stopgap upgrade before I can come up with satisfactory solution in the future (for at least 3 year service life with only minor upgrade). And who knows? PC Gaming is already getting ridiculous. Why not go console gaming in the future? Then my PC acquisition strategy will be completely different. At this moment, I am not certain what will be my requirement. So I won't spend money on any major upgrade.

Besides, new things always come alone. Are you going to get a C2D with DDR2? Or spend another 200 to get DDR3? That's the major reason that I don't choose to replace my current motherboard. If it's time to migrate, I will migrate. But it's not that time to me yet.

The decision to use 8800GS is because the system can still barely run under a 400W PSU so that I don't need to buy a new one at this moment. By doing this I am extending service life of my current rig for another 2 years until it is absolutely necessary to replace it. It might seem to be a stupid idea to you at this moment, but the whole acquisition since November 2005 pays itself. Besides, I can get a 8800GS of the same brand and same model with cheaper price in the future and make it an SLi.

COD4 and Crysis work seriously better on Pentium D than Pentium 4. I haven't try COD4 yet, but Crysis demo runs 30-50 FPS @ 1024x768 DX9 medium. Bottlenecking? Nah, the goal of upgrade to me is to be able to run certain games at certain condition, and they are balanced according to budget, performance and level of enjoyment. For a budget upgrade of less than $200, I would say it reaches all my goals (able to run DX9 Crysis @ 1024x768 medium) while brings some other problems (PSU reaching limit, no reason for replacement, power consumption etc, but ironically, no heat problem because Asus and HP designed that board and computer to handle Pentium D in the beginning, and I don't even need to replace CPU cooler).

And I am not going to buy another Intel system in the future anyway. Why invest money to get a C2D?

[Skaggy]

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8800GS ($120 after rebate)

The decision to use 8800GS is because the system can still barely run under a 400W PSU so that I don't need to buy a new one at this moment. By doing this I am extending service life of my current rig for another 2 years until it is absolutely necessary to replace it. It might seem to be a stupid idea to you at this moment, but the whole acquisition since November 2005 pays itself. Besides, I can get a 8800GS of the same brand and same model with cheaper price in the future and make it an SLi.

You can get a 9600GT for that sort of money.

It'll consume roughly the same amount of power as the GS and will give you better performance.

[imported_Field]

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yeah i got a pentium D 805 (the slowest one lol) and looked at upgrading it and all that and probably the reason i saw that you cant get cd2 for alot of mobos is because in my case it was DESIGNED for a processor that uses 90nm transistors giving them a certain voltage, the 65nm that are used in c2d cpus are not given the voltages that they should be so therefore theyre not compatible.

and also with my proprietary dell, the mobo and the bios that i have i cant overclock or anything even though i heard that the 805 was an awsome overclocker that you could speed up to 4ghz with a bit of work so yeah i got a 7900gs which isnt that bad and then i crammed as much ram 3.25gb as possible into the mobo and did all of the other stuff that i could to speed up the computer but ultimately the slow processor will always bottlneck my system. yeah when i get a job and more disposable income i wont be able to make excuses about bad hardware caus im gonna make sure to get a fast cpu before any other hardware because it dictates how uber your computer will be.

[AvalancheDiode]

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You can get a 9600GT for that sort of money.

It'll consume roughly the same amount of power as the GS and will give you better performance.

Not really. Mine is factory overclocked, and benchmark shows that it performs better than 9600GT at 10x7 no AA, which is the config that most practical to me. 9600 GT is better at higher resolution with AA, but, I don't think it performs reasonable at those setup. It's just that 8800 GS fits my operational range more than 9600 GT.

[Lotek19]

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fps would vary between 40 & 60, but it actually ran more like 20-30 fps. i made those few adjustments it's a huge improvement already. i'll mess around w/ it more later. lotek is my here right now:salute:

happy to help :salute:, i was quite suprised too when i made those changes...i may even be able to play on higher settings then what i am right now :thumbsup:

I want some sony head phones now..

60 bucks mate

I'm done with Intel, will buy AMD next time. I hope the new nVidia Hybrid can really save power while not gaming.

why would you downgrade on a processor....thats like...downgrading from an HDTV to a crappy one with the dials and sh**

[whiteguy16]

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Here's a link for people to see if their rig is up to running 2142 sufficiently. Will let you know if anything is bottlenecking you.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest

this thing is whack!! it says i can't run BF2142 because my graphics card isn't good enough. i play the game (almost) every day :laugh:

[deadman2312]

Re: An Ironic Fix for my lag

Here's a link for people to see if their rig is up to running 2142 sufficiently. Will let you know if anything is bottlenecking you.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest

LIES!!! Lol.....(kidding)

SRL says my computer passes both minimum and recommended, yet 2142 Titan mode is almost unplayable for me!? WTF already!? If i turn settings up beyond medium in Titan, then it gets REALLY bad, what the F am i missing already? Or is EA full of it as far as requirements?

[jake_]

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LIES!!! Lol.....(kidding)

SRL says my computer passes both minimum and recommended, yet 2142 Titan mode is almost unplayable for me!? WTF already!? If i turn settings up beyond medium in Titan, then it gets REALLY bad, what the F am i missing already? Or is EA full of it as far as requirements?

Too slow of internet connection?

I have Comcast and get 5mbps with wifi and over 10mpbs with using a LAN cable.

[imported_Field]

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eh im not sure how internet relates to framerate, maybe hit detection but not how smooth your game is necessarily. but then again i have verizon DSL and have never played with cable internet

[jake_]

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Nope. You don't know the whole story about this. My rig is already 2.5 years old and the only thing I've done before this major upgrade is increasing RAM from 512 to 2Gig. I know that C2D is way faster than Pentium D, BUT MY MOTHERBOARD DON'T SUPPORT ANYTHING AFTER Pentium D 8xx. For $50 I think it's not the greatest bargain, but not too far off either. New E2160 still costs around $70 on newegg.com. So, both Pentium D and 8800GS ($120 after rebate) are stopgap upgrade before I can come up with satisfactory solution in the future (for at least 3 year service life with only minor upgrade). And who knows? PC Gaming is already getting ridiculous. Why not go console gaming in the future? Then my PC acquisition strategy will be completely different. At this moment, I am not certain what will be my requirement. So I won't spend money on any major upgrade.

Besides, new things always come alone. Are you going to get a C2D with DDR2? Or spend another 200 to get DDR3? That's the major reason that I don't choose to replace my current motherboard. If it's time to migrate, I will migrate. But it's not that time to me yet.

The decision to use 8800GS is because the system can still barely run under a 400W PSU so that I don't need to buy a new one at this moment. By doing this I am extending service life of my current rig for another 2 years until it is absolutely necessary to replace it. It might seem to be a stupid idea to you at this moment, but the whole acquisition since November 2005 pays itself. Besides, I can get a 8800GS of the same brand and same model with cheaper price in the future and make it an SLi.

COD4 and Crysis work seriously better on Pentium D than Pentium 4. I haven't try COD4 yet, but Crysis demo runs 30-50 FPS @ 1024x768 DX9 medium. Bottlenecking? Nah, the goal of upgrade to me is to be able to run certain games at certain condition, and they are balanced according to budget, performance and level of enjoyment. For a budget upgrade of less than $200, I would say it reaches all my goals (able to run DX9 Crysis @ 1024x768 medium) while brings some other problems (PSU reaching limit, no reason for replacement, power consumption etc, but ironically, no heat problem because Asus and HP designed that board and computer to handle Pentium D in the beginning, and I don't even need to replace CPU cooler).

And I am not going to buy another Intel system in the future anyway. Why invest money to get a C2D?

*sigh*

eh im not sure how internet relates to framerate, maybe hit detection but not how smooth your game is necessarily. but then again i have verizon DSL and have never played with cable internet

Not FPS, but it will affect lag and latency

[deadman2312]

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Too slow of internet connection?

I have Comcast and get 5mbps with wifi and over 10mpbs with using a LAN cable.

As others have stated, a shotty internet connection wouldnt cause the issues im having. I used Comcast for many years as well, same result, im on Bresnan now, Wyomings version of Comcast, with no difference.

I can play 48 player Camp Gibraltar with high settings, no video lag, yet a 32 player Titan match at medium settings(high settings lol, um no) causes me to curse profusely, and call upon demon powers to break my computer. If i would have to guess, i would say its my processor, even though it is "3.2ghz", it is an Intel Celeron D with specs listed below-

Intel Celeron D 352 3.2GHz 533MHz 512K LGA775 CPU OEM MFN HH80552RE088512 OEM Specification HH80552RE088512 Process Type: Intel Celeron D Processor 352 Frequency: 3.20GHz FSB: 533MHz Cache: 512 KB Process: 65 nm

Does that shed light? Or am i missing something?:shakehead:

[Shazanelli]

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well, that isnt the best of processers, but what is the rest of your specs?

[jake_]

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Shazanelli is right about the processor, but the rest of your set is good enough.
I used to have a Pentium D. I seem to recall not having too many problems with it though.

Of course, you'd see an amazing increase in performance if you upgraded to a new motherboard and core 2 duo.

Also,
There's a more data being transfered on Titan, especially when you're in the Titan. For example, on servers with a high ping (over 150) I often get lag on a Titan but nowhere else on the map.

Have you tried playing with the lowest settings or a lower resolution?
When you compare you're highest settings to your lowest settings you should notice some change in FPS, even if its still choppy. If you do see some improvement there's a good chance upgrading you're parts would fix the problem too.

Don't hold me too it though.

well, that isnt the best of processers, but what is the rest of your specs?

Click on the "my system" under his name.