How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

[troybob]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

Awful map.

incorrect sir. its a lovely map.

[Lt Davis]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

I love Songhua. Probably my favorite map. Nice change from oilfields, refineries, and middle eastern cities.

[WolfAlmighty]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

Most people don't like Songhua because it's the only vehicle-centric map without any attack helicopters. If you put a cobra and a Z-10 on the map it would attract more people. It doesn't cater to IO people (LOTS of APCs to drive around in), and it doesn't cater to air people (no jets or attack helis, only transports). Personally, though, I really like Songhua, perhaps for that reason. I mean I love the combined arms aspects of BF (more than many, it would seem, given the IO population) and the diversity in vehicles is great, but every now and again it's fun to play a vehicle map where you aren't constantly getting OHKed from 300m away by a heligunner and can just have massive tank/APC ground fights.

~Wolfgang

[signa]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

Most people don't like Songhua because it's the only vehicle-centric map without any attack helicopters. If you put a cobra and a Z-10 on the map it would attract more people. It doesn't cater to IO people (LOTS of APCs to drive around in), and it doesn't cater to air people (no jets or attack helis, only transports). Personally, though, I really like Songhua, perhaps for that reason. I mean I love the combined arms aspects of BF (more than many, it would seem, given the IO population) and the diversity in vehicles is great, but every now and again it's fun to play a vehicle map where you aren't constantly getting OHKed from 300m away by a heligunner and can just have massive tank/APC ground fights.

~Wolfgang

^^ good point!

[FPS[SONIC]]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

Wolfy brought the logic. =)

I like Songhua Stalemate. I've heard folks complain about the fog though.

I think Wolfgang hit the nail on the head though. Combined arms is what Battlefield games are all about, but it seems like most players want either Infantry or Air maps.

[The_Falcon_6049]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

cause that map sux, question answered? If you like it fine but majority thinks it is crap

Camouflage = :thumbsup:
View distance = :shakehead:
Comfort for long-range snipers [me!] = :shakehead:

[imported_Rhino]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

the reason why most players don't like it is cos its a Chinese map, and no one likes the Chinese weapons in BF2 (ie, that ak-47 etc). Everyone likes the Ak-101 more :p

[Shask]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

the reason why most players don't like it is cos its a Chinese map, and no one likes the Chinese weapons in BF2 (ie, that ak-47 etc). Everyone likes the Ak-101 more :p

I'm not "most players" then. I don't play it because I don't want to spend loads of time sitting around in transport or running between flags. Whatever floats your boat.

[SkylineXZ]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

Awesome map imo.

[[GCA]Tim270]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

It is very fun hising in the jungle sniping or laying mines in the river but i can see why people dont like it.

[Reaper2794]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

see people are dumb

i love my clan and this game cuz we actually sneak around and stuff

people are so lame they care about some virtual numbers on a screen so they rush into the enemy even if they get killed

people are stupid these days

[LaikaSB]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

Songhua demands a totally different style of gameplay. All the places for hiding and the lack of choke points on the map makes the flags easy to capture. That combined with the fact that it's rare to have to fight an enemy when you aren't near a base results in squads endlessly running around capping flags instead of having intense jungle fights.

[*FMJ*Power]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

view distance and fog are the biggest reasons it doesn't get play. i really liked the map myself....lots of areas that never get used though, definitely need 64 people to keep that map going at a good pace.

[FalconControl]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

Its name states why its not played - STALEMATE

The round is a relentless merry-go-round, with very little intense batlle action.

It is by far one of the worst maps, besides Clean sweep. If the map was so good, trust me more servers would host it, but the truth is that it is a server killer. Nothing will empty a populate server faster than a couple of rounds of Stalemate.

I do have to agree with Signa though, pre-blackhawk nerf this map was crazy good for racking up points.

I'm amazed at the pro Stalemate comments on here, perhaps you guys should start a stalemate only server and have a 24/7 flag capping fest.

[FPS[SONIC]]

Re: How come no one plays Songhua Stalemate anymore?

I may be one of the few who like flag hopping as a recreational activity.