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  • ElFipso
    Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 647

    #16
    Re: Spec specualtion

    Yes his new system willrun on VISTA, but the old was XP:

    The system i have is p4 3.2 , 1 GB ddr 400mhz , 6600GT 128mb AGP, windows xp, 17" monitor

    So as you can see im taking a big leap forward with my new system.

    Core2duo 2.12
    2GB ddr2 800mhz
    8600GTS 512MB PCIe
    Windows Vista
    19" Monitor

    The big question is what kinda performence will i get on all the battlefields?

    Im guessing it can hold its own against modern games but the older games like bf2 etc, well...sumbody enlighten me.
    The old system was touching the edge of being able to play BF2 or not.

    For the new system I would suggest as much RAM as possible but always more than 2 Gigs becasue of VISTA. The video card is fine for BF2 If you don't plan to play Crysis on any other settings than medium your good to go with this card

    FipZ

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    • [Expletive Deleted]
      The Penetrator
      • Oct 2006
      • 2855

      #17
      Re: Spec specualtion

      Originally posted by kulamonster3
      Recommend upgrading to 4GB of RAM and keeping your 8600GTS, which is only a small step down from the 8800GTX, and not worth your money to upgrade for the little performance gain you would get from installing it!!!!!!! (forget about the 9000 series cards too....they are CRAP)
      The 8600GTS is a long ways down from the 8800GTX.
      Two 8600GTSs in SLI don't even measure up to a single 8800GTS 640MB, much less an 8800GTX.

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      • (TM)KillJoy
        Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 534

        #18
        Re: Spec specualtion

        Anytime you build, you should plan for the future, either as an upgrade later, or something that can handle the future now. That rig is ready for an upgrade, and it's still on the way, and not even out of the box yet! Sure, it can play BF2, but good luck with BF3 or any other DX10 game.

        chug, chug,...chug.

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        • The Laughing Man
          Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 256

          #19
          Re: Spec specualtion

          It is not the video card holding him back!!! It is Windows VISTA (period). All 3d Mark tests show that VISTA drops up 20-30fps off all the major games, even those that are 3 years old.

          VISTA is a memory hungry operating system that uses more RAM than WinXP, so therefore 2GB does not pull its weight in a VISTA machine as 2GB would under XP.

          Recommend upgrading to 4GB of RAM and keeping your 8600GTS, which is only a small step down from the 8800GTX, and not worth your money to upgrade for the little performance gain you would get from installing it!!!!!!! (forget about the 9000 series cards too....they are CRAP)

          Buy more RAM, you wont be sorry!!!
          Right gotta step in here, sorry mate you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

          Lets start with Vista. I am no fan of Vista but the value of 20 - 30 FPS across all games is rubbish pie in the sky nonsense. Yeah it runs slower but the difference is a matter of FPS it sure as hell ain't anywhere in the 20 or 30s.

          Next the graphics card comparative is way way off. The 8600GT (that's the top flight 86series card) That card is no where near the GTX. My 8800GTS is no where near the GTX and it will pull double the framerates on almost any game you care to mention over the 8600GT so I can't see how you can even compare the two. If you had £30 extra to spend and already had 2Gig of RAM you would have to be a certified madman to opt for 4gig of RAM and a 8600GT over 2Gig of RAM and a 8800GTS

          The 9 series isn't rubbish, that's knee jerk over reaction from press that was expecting another massive leap in performance similar to what we got when the 8series first hit. The 9600 card is cheap powerful and will take a lower end 88series card in a power vs cost fight. The 98series card is cheaper than the 88cards where at launch (by a good £130) it's a heck of a lot more powerful out of the box and better still it uses a lot less actual power.

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          • [GCA]Tim270

            #20
            Re: Spec specualtion

            I was also taking into account that you may be playing mods such as PR that can be a bit more of a strain.

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            • Furrything22

              #21
              Re: Spec specualtion

              I'd say your system is fine for BF2 and 2142, but the new Battlefield is coming out, but I think it would be fine even though no specs have been released about the game. For Battlefield 2 you would most likely get 50-60 FPS on all settings high.

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              • pyro1988

                #22
                Re: Spec specualtion

                OK, thats kool, it anit got the best bits in the world as i was on a £400 budget and that was to get everything start to finish so i think i did pretty well for the cash,

                Also its a 8600GTS 8600GTS 8600GTS

                Everyone keep saying GT when i no the gts is better than a gt

                But as long as i can play modern games or odler games with decent detail and more importantly smooth FPS ill be happy.

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                • pyro1988

                  #23
                  Re: Spec specualtion

                  Quick update, Ive had the pc for a week now, been using it and it blows me away, Anyone who sed mostly highs, few mediems, i might have trouble with the card etc.....your all dumb in the head lol

                  i play ALL high, highest resolution with max players and i have no slow down at all, not even for a second so there we go, perfect performence.

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                  • Sloi sauce

                    #24
                    Re: Spec specualtion

                    Originally posted by pyro1988
                    Core2duo 2.12
                    2GB ddr2 800mhz
                    8600GTS 512MB PCIe
                    Windows Vista
                    19" Monitor
                    Ditch Vista for XP.
                    The 19in monitor has nothing to do with your system's gaming performance.

                    That said, you're better off paying 250$ for an 8800GT. The rest is fine...

                    Originally posted by pyro1988
                    Everyone keep saying GT when i no the gts is better than a gt

                    But as long as i can play modern games or odler games with decent detail and more importantly smooth FPS ill be happy.
                    Suit yourself, but you're wrong: Tom's Hardware VGA chart

                    The 8600GTS is nowhere near the 8800GT in terms of performance. I strongly suggest you ditch that GTS in favor of the GT.

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                    • Wizrdwarts
                      Member
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3754

                      #25
                      Re: Spec specualtion

                      You can get an 8800GT for less than $200 now. 9600GT is also a very good card, if you don't mind a bit slower, but the price/performance ratio is great.

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                      • [Expletive Deleted]
                        The Penetrator
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2855

                        #26
                        Re: Spec specualtion

                        Originally posted by Sloi
                        Ditch Vista for XP.
                        The 19in monitor has nothing to do with your system's gaming performance.

                        That said, you're better off paying 250$ for an 8800GT. The rest is fine...



                        Suit yourself, but you're wrong: Tom's Hardware VGA chart

                        The 8600GTS is nowhere near the 8800GT in terms of performance. I strongly suggest you ditch that GTS in favor of the GT.
                        He's talking about the difference between the 8600GT and 8600GTS. Not between 8600GTS and 8800GT. I realize that everyone is telling him to pony up $50 more dollars to get a card that is twice as fast. I'm just not sure he realizes that's what's going on.
                        And a monitor actually does have some bearing on which graphics card to get. If all he has is a 19" that is probably 1280x1024, no need to get an 8800 Ultra or SLI 8800GTs or any nonsense like that. It's like putting an 8800 with a P4 processor. Waste.

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                        • jesus
                          Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2413

                          #27
                          Re: Spec specualtion

                          Originally posted by Sloi
                          Ditch Vista for XP.
                          The 19in monitor has nothing to do with your system's gaming performance.

                          That said, you're better off paying 250$ for an 8800GT. The rest is fine...



                          Suit yourself, but you're wrong: Tom's Hardware VGA chart

                          The 8600GTS is nowhere near the 8800GT in terms of performance. I strongly suggest you ditch that GTS in favor of the GT.

                          The monitor DOES have to do with gaming performance. The resolution he plays at can depend on his monitor. Higher res = less FPS

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                          • pyro1988

                            #28
                            Re: Spec specualtion

                            Ive already got the rig like i said a few posts up and it runs everything ive thrown at it on high, actually the rig automaticly puts everything on high so it the rigs choice ,not mine,

                            And yeah, i was on a budget so i got the best i could so yeah, i do no what everyone is saying about the next card but if i kept addin extra £20's and £30's to all the parts to get a bit of extra performance i would have ended up spending an extra £100 by the time i was done so i very happy with a 8600gts, big step up from my old 6600gts AGP

                            And for me the monitor makes a big part, i use 1400x1000 give or take a few pixels on my games and ive noticed the colours are alot sharper and brighter on my new monitor, plus its nice to have a flat instead of that house i used to have

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                            • Sloi sauce

                              #29
                              Re: Spec specualtion

                              Originally posted by Tomeis
                              The monitor DOES have to do with gaming performance. The resolution he plays at can depend on his monitor. Higher res = less FPS
                              Modern monitors with the "usual" widescreen resolutions may not necessarily require top cards, but the price/performance of an 8800GT is hard to beat. You guys are introducing variables that are of practically no consequence to this gentleman.

                              Originally posted by pyro1988

                              And for me the monitor makes a big part, i use 1400x1000 give or take a few pixels on my games and ive noticed the colours are alot sharper and brighter on my new monitor, plus its nice to have a flat instead of that house i used to have
                              Gee whiz, look at that...

                              Exactly what I f*ckin' said. You guys really like overthinking things and introducing pointless variables. Can't say I didn't tell you.

                              :thumbsup:

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