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  • Kodakk
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3486

    #16
    Well, once you get used to the sniper rifle, you tend to "know" where the rifle is aiming even without the crosshairs. It's like Spitfire said (in other games) you learn where the center of your screen is essentially, and therefore can make a good prediction of where your shot will go.

    CoD4 doesn't allow that kind of thinking when sniping unzoomed because there is a large amount of randomness to the direction of the bullet - so rather than shooting and knowing it will hit in say a 1/4 ft x 1/4 ft box, it will hit anywhere within a 2 ft x 2 ft box.

    Similarly, assault rifle users (in hardcore, so without crosshairs) know the general direction of where their bullets will go, and can aim accordingly.

    CSS had, in default settings, large crosshairs, but the bullets would go in the center of the crosshairs every time (on the first shot) - which allowed users to decrease the crosshair size in order to get a clearer idea of where the bullets will impact. There was still recoil, but you knew exactly where your first shot was going to go, so if you were skilled enough you could really make it count.

    I can make a video tomorrow showing what I'd like it to be compared to how it currently is as I'm pretty bad at describing it

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    • -=}E{=-Stimulus

      #17
      No-scoping kills 100% of the time 5% of the time

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      • Iwantcable
        Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 2362

        #18
        I don't know if you've played CoD2, but I think IW decided no-scoping was overpowered and nerfed it.

        [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBF3xbdD3P0[/media]
        There's some crazy shots without scoping...

        IMO it would be fine considering how most CoD4 maps are horrendous for sniping, though.

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        • iQue
          Member
          • May 2007
          • 4925

          #19
          I read in some developer diary or similar that they didn't want the sniper rifles to be very accurate since new players wouldn't stand a chance against the more experienced players. And considering the high damage the sniper rifles does, IW thought that if they were very accurate no-scoped everyone would put a dot on their monitor and use the sniper rifles as hyperaccurate shotguns of doom. I know I would considering my aim is pretty good.

          Think about it, CoD4 is already extremely dumbed down, they couldn't possibly have made it more confusing for the noobs

          Although I admit you have these cool wtf moments when you do noscoped headshots across crossfire.

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          • Kodakk
            Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 3486

            #20
            Well, I hope future games don't continue this "appeal to new players" as it takes away from the lasting appeal and amount of skill possible in a game.

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            • Kylee!
              Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 4161

              #21
              Aha! Iwantcables video is awesome... I love stuff like that.

              Yea, thats the kinda game I learned how to play, I still attempt to play it in CoD4... but it just doesn't work sometimes.

              But, I would love if the sniper could noscope like it used to... It was just so much more fun that way, and it made snipers something useful.

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              • iQue
                Member
                • May 2007
                • 4925

                #22
                Yeah it's seems the only weapon IW intended us to use were ARs/SMGs/LMGs... Shotguns and Sniper rifles seem to be something IW just threw in the game cause people wouldn't like it without them. I can't understand why they had to nerf the shotguns so badly.

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                • TrudgiN
                  Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 705

                  #23
                  [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc1tCrdcO0g[/media]

                  Works but closer range

                  But from all the cod4 no scope montages i seems to be the xbox and ps3 only :cry:

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                  • Kodakk
                    Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3486

                    #24
                    [media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=pI5sLvd-MlE[/media]

                    No, it is possible (That's me)

                    It's just very random and inconsistent.

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                    • TrudgiN
                      Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 705

                      #25
                      Originally posted by [SSM] k0daK
                      [media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=pI5sLvd-MlE[/media]

                      No, it is possible (That's me)

                      It's just very random and inconsistent.
                      nice skillage :nod:

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                      • iQue
                        Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 4925

                        #26
                        Originally posted by pwnageisntgood
                        But from all the cod4 no scope montages i seems to be the xbox and ps3 only :cry:
                        Autoaim. It's a lot easier to do noscopes if the hitboxes are twice as big

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                        • TrudgiN
                          Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 705

                          #27
                          Originally posted by -UtC- Iquere «
                          Autoaim. It's a lot easier to do noscopes if the hitboxes are twice as big
                          Yeah heard about that all console versions get a mini aimbot

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                          • Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=
                            Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3101

                            #28
                            Originally posted by stephensolofo
                            Well i imagine its for balance,otherwise you could just put a dot on the screen.
                            rofl!! i tried that ages ago in CS... didnt work :cry:

                            but ur right.. it is for balance.. if there was a way to accurately fire a sniper rifle from the hip the game would be over for anyone without a sniper rifle.. simple

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                            • =)BiT(=BlackMage
                              Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 165

                              #29
                              There's a hit area with the M40 that only has a 1.1x damage modifier. Even with SP, it won't oneshot. I believe it is the gut. Aim high or use the R700 for great justice.

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                              • TrudgiN
                                Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 705

                                #30
                                Originally posted by =)BiT(=BlackMage
                                There's a hit area with the M40 that only has a 1.1x damage modifier. Even with SP, it won't oneshot. I believe it is the gut. Aim high or use the R700 for great justice.
                                It does all the time 80% of m40a3 shots are 1 hits

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