Stealth??? Where...

[Sike]

Well, Battlefield 2 had balanced snipers, they did have tracers, but they didn't have blips that showed up on the radar every time a sniper shot.

The maps are already small enough to make it hard to camp as a sniper, so I don't think it would matter much.

Currently, you can be stealthier if you use an AR + Silencer, UAV Jammer, and Dead Silence than if you snipe. It's sad really.

i think only the M40 and r700 should be the only snipers to be silenced beacause a silenced M21 or Dragunov would be a noobs dream

[-Shifty-]

Snipers can be used in sooooo many ways in this game. But whenever I do it I just sit somewhere and enjoy watching 10-15 guys walk right over me without noticing.

And every kill I make I move.

Kinda like a real sniper. But it can be annyoing when you're in a shoot em up mood.

[Sloi sauce]

If the extra attachment perk will be be tier 2, I`m ok with it. That way you have to give up some pretty good powerups for the sake of having a another mod.

I've been asking for this. If I could have one kit with a silencer/red dot combo at the expense of a perk 2 or 3 bonus, things would be peachy. It wouldn't f*ck with the balance because something else would be taken out in the process. Additionally, they could make the unlock something that you get for reaching, let's say, prestige level 3.

Of course, that's never going to happen, so stop making me dream of a red dot/silenced M14.

[The_Eliminator]

I think the combination of some attachments would just be to much, even if it did take up perk 2 and 3 because on say the LMG, imagine having the grip and RDS but still having the power of an ordinary LMG.

I dont like the sound of it.

[FPS[SONIC]]

I think the combination of some attachments would just be to much, even if it did take up perk 2 and 3 because on say the LMG, imagine having the grip and RDS but still having the power of an ordinary LMG.

I dont like the sound of it.

I wouldn't mind that if they didn't have access to some pretty valuable perks. That itself could put you at a disavantage if someone is observant and counters your loadout with one meant to stop you and your LMG of death.

I'd stun you with my 3X Special Nades, hide from you with my UAV Jammer and outrun you with Extreme Conditioning. There are a number of combos which would be effective.
EDIT: Hey, Eliminator! This makes me want to have a good game with you... What's your ping to California? =)

I say, if someone wants multiple attachments, they can have them but have to sacrifice the use of perks.

[The_Eliminator]

well im living in Perth Asutralia atm so i dont know, but pings dont seem to effect this game too much.

[TheDesert_Fox]

A long time ago I had an idea for replacing perk 1 with a silencer for SMGs and ARs, or even perk 2 instead/also. I still think it'd be great. You can't have the noobtube with a sight since it'd take up perk1 for the launcher (same with grips), and no two sights at once obviously.

Lately I've adapted it to: a Perk 1 (or 2/3 if needed) only for snipers, it adds a silencer on at a cost of perk so you don't have to lose your scope or anything. It can be used with the ACOG since that thing is more of a nerf. SMGs and ARs are already pretty powerful and most people who had complaints pointed this out, so giving them two attachments would bring imbalance.

More things could be adapted for the other gun types as well, I'm sure, and if mod packs come out soon, I'll make it for the masses to use if it proves easy enough/people help out. Maybe a full metal slug for shotties, carrying strap for LMGs (to move faster), etc.

[Sm3lln03vil]

Snipers in a game are not meant to be inherently superior to other classes.
If you could fire completely undetected then just equipping a sniper rifle would be a instant 5:1 k/d ratio.

The silenced weapons are stealthier, but they also have to get much, much closer to the enemy.
A silenced sniper rifle would have iron sights and need 3 headshots to kill, do you really want that?
Stealth is something you use, its not something you equip.

As for BF2 / BF2142 snipers, they were balanced in other ways and the gameplay was much different.

And contrary to popular belief, most players do not spend the rest of the game hunting down a sniper just because we saw you shoot us in killcam.
The sniper ego has to be more overinflated than the .com bubble
You can always find a player named sniper something, but how often do you see people name themselves AssaultRifle, LMG of for that matter GrenadeTosser or NoobTuber?

I have used sniper rifles in this game, and they are quick and efficient weapons that can easily be used in street-to-street fighting. They do not require you to camp in one spot, if you do that you have only yourself to blame.

as long as were comparing bf2 to cod4, how would u guys feel if u can use the barret to take out heli pilots and destrow helis with one shot? lol

[Vreki]

A long time ago I had an idea for replacing perk 1 with a silencer for SMGs and ARs, or even perk 2 instead/also. I still think it'd be great. You can't have the noobtube with a sight since it'd take up perk1 for the launcher (same with grips), and no two sights at once obviously.

If snipers want a silencer, they will have to give up their unique long range capability. Or in other words, stop being snipers.

Every other silenced weapon requires that you get close to the enemy, which balances the stealth.

as long as were comparing bf2 to cod4, how would u guys feel if u can use the barret to take out heli pilots and destrow helis with one shot? lol

Well I hate the helis, so I think it would be a great idea!
But as far as I remember, the MP helicopters don't actually have a crew.

[Predators28]

I want a silencer for my Deagle

[The_Eliminator]

I want a silencer for my Deagle

They dont exist but would be cool

[Predators28]

Yeah I know which suxs,Because it would be the ultimate weapon

[Vreki]

Well I want a silencer for the shotguns

[Predators28]

and the Barrett

Edit:

you can get a silencer for the Barrett

listen right at the beginning. You will hear a 50 cal shot, then followed by the silenced 50 cal

http://www.truveo.com/50-Cal-with-silencer/id/1796343001

[TheDesert_Fox]

If snipers want a silencer, they will have to give up their unique long range capability. Or in other words, stop being snipers.

Every other silenced weapon requires that you get close to the enemy, which balances the stealth.

It'd certainly be made costly to balance that fact. First, the loss of bullet strength, second only the snipers that have silencers in real life can use it, so probably no Barret. Third, I'd mod it to not be dead silent like the other silencers, but more of a muffled pop. Fourth, tracers are pretty easy to trace, as are sparks an holes left by stray bullets.

It can work, I say!