Martyrdom or MartyrDUMB????

[Spik3d]

If everything was changed for somebody, then the game would be stripped of anything that might be an advantage.

You'd end up with one class, one primary, one pistol, no unlocks, no ranks, same skins, same models, a single map (that would be mirrored), no grenades, no special grenades, no perks, etc. Yes, this is an exaggeration, but you get my point.

Get used to it, or get out.

[emrys42]

I created this post becuase i was curios what most other ppl thought about martyrdom.There is with any subject many on both sides,there are those like me who hate the perk becuase of many reasons,1st Its not realistic(yes we all heard about the guys who was half dead in ruble and had a grenade in his hand,but he wasn't just shooting a machine gun while running/jumping and then filled with a clip from a submachine gun)ppl have tried to say this game wasnt meant to be realistic but i hate to say it this IS a combat simulator who strives to be realistic,its not Unreal Tornament,thus the name MODERN WARFARE
2nd it takes no skill(only a nub would base there skills on there own death,instead of better aim,running farther,etc)
3rd this game has enough grenade spams,you dont need to add grenades ppl dont even need to throw
4th and my biggest issue is what it does to the game,when your pushing into the enemys front lines all the ppl who actualy do the work(ppl at the front lines)cant charge forward becuase of a silly perk.

Alot of ppl say "QQ its part of the game deal with it" and i do,but i wonder how many of them are snipers/support ppl who never get close to an enemy,and howmany of them prefer hardcore like me(where you dont even get a HUD warning about a grenade.

I think the idea of the perk is fine it just needs to be refined.There have been many very good suggestions.
A it only drops a nade if you have one on you
B you have to push a button real fast when you die or it doesnt happen(at least you need alittle skill)
C increased delay on the nade
D it doesnt drop when your knifed

Dont get me wrong i love this game but why keep arround an abilitie where most ppl either "dont mind it" or "dont like it",who cares if a few players with no skill enjoy a free kill when they die if it totally aggravates and annoys most ppl.

"The needs of the many out way the needs of the few"
Spock

[gijoe435]

Someone whining about a game, shocking Why don't they just completely strip the game of everything. This isn't a realism game. :shakehead

[L3adcannon]

UT3? That arena game? There's nothing realistic in that

GRAVITY AND FRICTION, HA!

[FPS[SONIC]]

If they made it so that Hard Core mode turned off Martyrdom and Last Stand, I'd be fine.

I like both of those perks in intense, normal-mode battles and don't seem to have too many problems avoiding them, either. And, when someone gets me with one of those perks, I take it as a fun part of the game and don't get upset by it.

[OldGregg]

The grenade launcher. Specifically using it as your primary weapon instead of the gun it is mounted on, just to gain easy kills by blowing people up at close range.

That's what I assumed, but wasn't sure. I do hate it when people do that. Oh well.

[The_Eliminator]

If everything was changed for somebody, then the game would be stripped of anything that might be an advantage.

You'd end up with one class, one primary, one pistol, no unlocks, no ranks, same skins, same models, a single map (that would be mirrored), no grenades, no special grenades, no perks, etc. Yes, this is an exaggeration, but you get my point.

Get used to it, or get out.

Counterstrike fy_Iceworld

[Chris_Redfield]

UT3? That arena game? There's nothing realistic in that. It's just another arena shooter like Quake III.

LOL

Klingons have destroyed the sarcasmic warp generator. :laugh:

Theres nothing realistic in COD4 either. Every change, every setting, every setup, is done so because of GAMEPLAY BALANCE. Every change you ducks propose will make the 2 perks completely useless. And only you would want that. The rest of the crowd, that actually has no narcissistic view on themselves and dont have a problem admitting that they are imperfect and can *snip* up too, have no problems with Martydom.

I died from Martydom 2 times last week. I actually counted it. Thats 2 deaths through about 10 hours of game time.

Sh1t, that thing is overpowered...:laugh:

[imported_youm0nt]

Counterstrike fy_Iceworld

That'd pretty much be like Shipment...

[TheDesert_Fox]

Counterstrike fy_Iceworld

Iceworld has more than one gun.

GTFO YOU IMBALANCED NOOB ONLY THE AWP IS FAIR EVERYTHING ELSE IS OP!

Oh yeah, on topic... play FFon servers. It's pretty fun on a well admin'd server and no one uses martydom for fear of their score's death.