Fire rate change via mouse script

[sfcthebam]

Seen a few thread recentlly regarding setting the mouse scroll wheel for full auto g3 usage and a mention of scripts to emulate this... so experimented intially by setting the mouse wheel up... hated it, like my LMB as fire simple as... so had a look about for a script to do something similer, and found a little golden nugget.

Its called Mr Nickles fast fire script. Rather than letting the guns go full auto, it allows a set up to switch to pre determined burst modes - 1 / 3 / 5 / 8 / 15 and 20 shots.

Found 1 - 5 shots useful for certain weapons above that unneccesary IMHO.

Gives you the option as you had in CoD and CodUO of switching weapon between semi auto and burst(well full auto in original cod).

Was thinking that this initially would be a bit cheaty, but after giving it a go, its a fairly balanced affair, with trade offs - and really shouldnt have been dropped in CoD2.

For example if you use the burst mode your going to whizz through ur ammo and you stand the chance of getting caught out changing the weapon rate.

I amended the script to use 1/2/3 and 5 shot bursts.

All these are handy for using on the single fire and full auto guns.

I initially didnt like using the g3 as I aint got the fastest PC in the world and trying to get a 2nd shot with the g3 for the kill was difficult after the opponent would move after the first shot and prefered the m16 over it.

Stick on 2 or 3 shot burst and its a far more viable alternative.

With LMG's 3 and 5 shot burst are excellent for picking folk off.

So what do you guys think, is this a bit dodgy or should variable fire rates have been a control option in the first place - I'm going with the 2nd option here.

If you would like to give it a go, you can find the script on codfiles and post ur opinions.

Footnote: I dont cheat at any games and positivelly detest it whn people do... perhaps you think this is an exploit, but in my humble its a function that should have been there from the start.

[The_Eliminator]

This is interesting, so are you saying this script is LEGAL and can give you a a fully automatic G3?

Baur dream come true?

[=MNKY=Frosty]

Footnote: I dont cheat at any games and positivelly detest it whn people do... perhaps you think this is an exploit, but in my humble its a function that should have been there from the start.

Hmm so if you want it to be in the game but it isn't that makes it fair to download something to emulate it for you? I wanted Wallhacks and Aimbot and ESP in cod4 but there wasn't any, shall I go and download them because I thought they should have been in the game in the first place? No of course not.

The weapons are set to auto fire and semi-auto for game BALANCE. The game is ALL about balance, if the g3 was originally set as a 3 burst fir weapon, it would be hugely overpowered, in real life it is an auto firing weapon, but it is all about game balance. Using a script is IMHO basically cheating, using a script to fire for you, you say it has it's downsides, not particularly. I give a tiny bit of respect for the people who us their scroll wheel because it must be a pain in the *** in CQC. But using a script is completely wrong.

Anyone else agree with me or am I just a lone ranger here?


PS In the future I am sure mods will be introduced to give the G3 auto fire and guns like the M14 semi-auto and things like that, but when your playing on the normal game mode you got to except what the game setting are and adjust to them, not adjust them to suit you.

[Chris_Redfield]

In all honesty, scrolling through your mousewheel isnt any different, when theres no real ROF cap. I could use my setpoint to set scroll motion so that even a small push on the wheel would give the G3 a solid burst.

It depends on how you yourself view at it. I see scripting/macroing as cheating, but Im more than happy to experiment around with it.

[Vreki]

Anyone else agree with me or am I just a lone ranger here?

I kind of agree, I will use the mouse-wheel but not a script.
Why? Well I feel the mouse-wheel is clever usage of the games controls (and has its drawbacks), while full auto scripts it getting a bit too close to other "helper" applications.

So I would say that full-auto should have been an option in the first place, but since its not I think the script is a bit dodgy.

[Repulse]

There are a few obvious ways around some features, but if your using third party programs like the one mentioned in the initial post then dont start to cry when PB comes along and whacks you with its ban stick.

There are some programs out there that are perfectly legal, but at the end of the day its down the individual players style, personally the G3 for me is a single shot wepaon that is most effective in in single shot mode, the MP5/G36c does the exact works as good as the G3 with higher rates of fire.

[The_Eliminator]

Hmm so if you want it to be in the game but it isn't that makes it fair to download something to emulate it for you? I wanted Wallhacks and Aimbot and ESP in cod4 but there wasn't any, shall I go and download them because I thought they should have been in the game in the first place? No of course not.

The weapons are set to auto fire and semi-auto for game BALANCE. The game is ALL about balance, if the g3 was originally set as a 3 burst fir weapon, it would be hugely overpowered, in real life it is an auto firing weapon, but it is all about game balance. Using a script is IMHO basically cheating, using a script to fire for you, you say it has it's downsides, not particularly. I give a tiny bit of respect for the people who us their scroll wheel because it must be a pain in the *** in CQC. But using a script is completely wrong.

Anyone else agree with me or am I just a lone ranger here?


PS In the future I am sure mods will be introduced to give the G3 auto fire and guns like the M14 semi-auto and things like that, but when your playing on the normal game mode you got to except what the game setting are and adjust to them, not adjust them to suit you.

I 100% agree with you.

The game is balanced atm.

[thekillerjud]

That A hole also has a script for sniper. These are hacks as far as I am concerned. I'm glad I read up on them cause if I ever see the commands in the console i'm gonna ban for sure.The scroll wheel used for fire button is no different in my opinion. Like the g3 needs to be more deadly. Why do you think they made it single shot? Everyone would be using the damn thing don't you think. I sent it to evenbalance so I hope the ban for it in the future.

You just plain SUCK if you can't play the game the way it was intended and you must use somthing in order to make you better.

[-Spartan`II7^]

Interesting. I'll go and fiddle around with that a bit more

[sfcthebam]

First off before I continue with an update to testing of the script - i'll give you a rapid conclusion.

The script effectivelly gives you burst fire, with recoil charecteristics for each subsequent shot. ie 1st shot spot on, 2nd effected by recoil, 3rd even more so etc. Therefore using the 20 shot burst making it effectivelly say for a g3 a fully automatic gun that will empty the entire clip while climbing skyward without stopping. Not good!

Using the mouse wheel from when I tested it gives effectivelly bullet on bullet single shots as fast as you can work it, therefore a controllable rate of auto fire with great accuracy!!!

Now what ones a cheat

I stand by that script gives the same feature that was in the original cod's and doesnt upset balance(see test). Am I the only one that was unhappy to see this feature dropped in CoD2?

TEST RESULTS

Initial testing was done on empty local server.... played online and here's the verdict.

G3 - Almost exactlly like the m16 in spead and RoF, except the slight increase in power (lvl 40 gun or so G3 - does this not make it a viable alternative to the stock M16 after working hard to attain that level? Works best with 2 shot burst for ammo consevation and recoil control.

M14 burst is only good at close range - anything other than that recoil takes the burst miles off, better single shot tapping. Helps m14 in CQC situ if you can hit the button quick enough.

RPD - no benefit in using it. RPD is better manually controlled or using single mouse wheel action to tap out individual shots for Long Range pinpoint shots(i have bound LMB and mousescroll down for fire.

Pistols - This is the only area where there is a definate benefit - close in 3 round burst does do the damage effectivlly especially when sighted.

SMG's 3 or 5 round burst are viable alternatives - but if you fight with control with they weapons and dont spray and pray - no real benefit.

In conclusion - see first paragraphs However to reiterate - would be good to have the inclusion of variable rof settings (though not advocating full auto on the likes of m16 or g3 - but wouldnt mind seeing both having semi auto and 3 round burst ability) and also be good for LMG to have out the box semi auto feature with full auto, and 3/5 round burst / full ato feature for SMG's.

I hope from this you can see that balance isnt really affected.

Hopes for the likes of this, is a mod team takes it onboard and includes such a feature in future releases.

Thanks for the comments, and please feel free to test it out for yourself before judging its merits.



EDIT: PS this doesnt make me any better, but makes the weapons more interesting and a little more aspect to the play and decisions too employ. If anything while testing these my scores were what I normally get to in quite a few cases worse, due to sticking with it and not changing to weapons I would normally. In fact on a few occasions, I changed to the unscripted RPD, to get my score up, so i didnt look like a lvl 55 noob

[b` m3ow]

That A hole also has a script for sniper. These are hacks as far as I am concerned. I'm glad I read up on them cause if I ever see the commands in the console i'm gonna ban for sure.The scroll wheel used for fire button is no different in my opinion. Like the g3 needs to be more deadly. Why do you think they made it single shot? Everyone would be using the damn thing don't you think. I sent it to evenbalance so I hope the ban for it in the future.

You just plain SUCK if you can't play the game the way it was intended and you must use somthing in order to make you better.

You just plain SUCK!

It is not a HACK! It's a script, non-kicked by PB. I've been using a script that makes it so its Single Shot and 3round Burst. Most effective in hardcore, say with a MP5, single shot. There is no hack, no change of codes, no wallhack, or aimbot.

Honestly, if you getting pissed over this little script... Then you most honestly not care about the FREE COD4 Aimbot thats out...

Get over it..

There were scripts in COD1, UO, and 2. If you weren't a fan of those, or never played, then I can see how your pissed if you came from BF. But GET OVER IT

[Hjodin]

^^After that explanation, you have justified every reason why it is ok for YOU to CHEAT. How can you say "balance isn't REALLY affected". You are shooting bullets at a 3-1 intended rate.

In laimans terms, you are still gay if you suck **** but dont take it in the a$$.

[b` m3ow]

^^After that explanation, you have justified every reason why it is ok for YOU to CHEAT. How can you say "balance isn't REALLY affected". You are shooting bullets at a 3-1 intended rate.

In laimans terms, you are still gay if you suck **** but dont take it in the a$$.

So your saying, its a cheat?? WHEN!!!!!11

You can do a 3 round (kind of) burst with the mouse ? Say you got the MP5, you just hold down the mouse, until 3 rounds come out. That simple. The ROF isn't changed in the script, just click once and 3 come out. Same as if you held the mouse down until 3 came out of the clip.

It's no cheat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Download here; and try it for yourself
http://callofduty.filefront.com/file...e_Script;84606

[The_Eliminator]

Im still personally finding it hard to justify.

[imported_Infiltrator]

I agree with The_Eliminator. It is after all a script that allows you to do something that you can't with the "bare" game.