What you want to see in v0.8

[waaah_wah]

Snipers are zeroed at 600m aren't they? You'll have to aim below for less than 600m.

Not how it works unfortunately. You have to aim strait on your target up till 600m, after that you'll have to compensate for bullet drop

[imported_Erol]

@The guy who said insurgents need snipers: Im pretty sure insurgents can have like, 5 or so snipers on basrah, 2 from the mosque, and get a few SVD's from the caches, and if you get the .50 cal, gfg.

[Wizrdwarts]

Not how it works unfortunately. You have to aim strait on your target up till 600m, after that you'll have to compensate for bullet drop

Really? Was that changed from .6?

[waaah_wah]

Nope... It never worked that way:/

[gazzthompson]

Really? Was that changed from .6?

thats how BF2 weapon ballistics works, it always been like that

thought if u read through some of this, ppl are working on real ballistics and zeroing

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-suggestions-feedback/32389-realistic-ballistics-zeroing-rifles.html

[waaah_wah]

I will make love to Jonny if he pulls that off

[imported_Erol]

Great waah, you made jonny quit

[lbgspam]

Like doing a Vista upgrade to Windoze XP, how about an upgrade to .6 type gameplay?

The gun sites and scopes are FAR from being anywhere near usable, they were much better in 0.6. Unless you play the mod 24/7 and have learnt were the good spots are, and wtf is up with the accuracy and bullet drop at like 150 meters? its CRAP!!, i couldn't hit a target at like 200 meters who was standing on a roof being a *******, neither could my squad!

I was playing as a british sniper, camping at my squads rp as insurgents were advancing to my position, i was laying prone, scoped in just aiming at where a squaddy had marked two jihading joe's and i go to headshot the first one as i see his head move above the pipe line i fire and the bullet completely misses, at like 50 meters... second shot went crackers too and by the third my squadie killed him and then the gun decided to work and i got a headshot on another insurg ten sec later.

Muttrah needs to come back as its missed dearly, also i highly recomend the insurgents get a sniper...or at least a scoped weapon even if the zoom is terrible..

Agree. Then again, I and all my clan stopped playing PR after .7. Shame, we all miss it so much. Which is why so many of us long term hard-core players have stopped playing .7. I been a BIG fan since .2, .7 is just not fun anymore.

For example, I was firing at an enemy soldier at point blank range and missed! How is this reality? The bullet/weapon/whatever you call it drift is just a bit too extreme.

Look at our forums and look at the recockulous amount of posts about sniper accuracy. What happened was we messed up on the minimum deviation settings for them. This is fixed for the upcoming patch:)

How about all the gun accuracies. See above on POINT BLANK firing inaccuracy.

The worse thing about it is that I have to post this here. When you post constructive criticism in the PR forums, the admins delete the threads. People in my squad/clan/whatever are in the military, and tried to post helpful suggestions about what they got incorrect in .7. Threads were immediately deleted. BTW, I don't count what I just wrote as a good example so don't take my writing as an example post.

PR just ain't as cool a mod IMHO anymore... the fanboys have taken it over and made it an attempted battle simulator. Unfortunately, the BF2 engine just is not great for that sort of thing. Check out Armed Assault if you want to see a battle simulator which has weapon steadying, bullet deviation done great

[waaah_wah]

Cmon... The guns arent THAT inaccurate in 0.7. You just have to stop moving for 2 sec or so. I have no problems with hitting targets 200 meters away in 0.7. If you dont like the current deviation system, use LMG's

[DutchDelights]

Well, just try to go full auto on someone with the an assault rifle at 2 metres. You will lose from someone on semi auto, wich takes away one of the main reasons why full auto personal weapons were invented.

[waaah_wah]

^^Ehh no not really. I have personally taken out LOTS of ppl on full auto in CQC. Even at 20 meters you can easily land a burst on someone if they are standing

[[130.Pz]W.Fuchs]

Hmmm.
I like the reality but it would be better to put the minimap back in for infantry. So you can see where your teammates are, thats a boost for teamplay.
And some more new weapons would be nice.

[gazzthompson]

The worse thing about it is that I have to post this here. When you post constructive criticism in the PR forums, the admins delete the threads. People in my squad/clan/whatever are in the military, and tried to post helpful suggestions about what they got incorrect in .7. Threads were immediately deleted. BTW, I don't count what I just wrote as a good example so don't take my writing as an example post.

what threads and what suggestions ? + the DEVs have there own military advisor's with combat experience.

also, i have no problem with shooting people, i really dont see the problem ? unless ur running and shooting, or spraying full auto at 300m

Hmmm.
I like the reality but it would be better to put the minimap back in for infantry. So you can see where your teammates are, thats a boost for teamplay.
And some more new weapons would be nice.

i don't even care for the minimap anymore.. no effect on me, but more weapons ?? like what...

Well, just try to go full auto on someone with the an assault rifle at 2 metres. You will lose from someone on semi auto, wich takes away one of the main reasons why full auto personal weapons were invented.

of course u will lose..... if u miss.

[imported_Erol]

The DEV's admitted that a error was made in the deviation for rifles and snipers, don't cry, its being fixed in the next patch

Now get back to PR before I hunt you down.

[waaah_wah]

^^Deviation is only messed up on marksman and sniper rifles. Not on regular assault rifles, although IIRC they were going to make the G3 a little more accurate...