Yea a lot of things like jihad's and base/spawn raping are all legit in EA/DICE's eyes. They may be cheap but if server rules don't say you can't do it, it's all fine.
Beware of this clan!
Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
-
-
I don't know about the hacks, but there are people that DO NOT BASE RAPE. I am one of them... and I AM NOT LYING. I just don't do it. Even if they do it to me, I will not do it to them... I might shoot a person or two while I'm trying to kill commander assets, or steal an enemy vehicle... but I never stick around longer then it takes me to do the job...Originally posted by Fingulfin1: Not Possible. Shield Duration/Walker Armor is server side; ie not hackable.
2: More possible, but how on earth do you know their commander and/or support status? Do you have the l33t h4x that lets you see what they have got? I should hope not.
3: Sure... Right... And I am Santa Claus!
4: So what? Everyone does it, and those who say they don't are liars.
I'm not a member of this clan, nor have I seen them playing so I am not defending them. I am just throwing out some common sense facts.
Ask people even, they will tell you I constantly COMPLAIN about people that DO base rape.... I think it's very cheap.... seriously what's the point? To cause the other team misery for your own pleasure? Well guess what? I've gotten more pleasure out of beating the piss out of a team by NOT LETTING THEM near any one of our flags rather then just waiting for them to spawn then kill them.
I LIKE them to gather themselves together and make a push, it's much more challanging... and more fun for both sides... I'd rather loose badly on a team that didn't get base raped then to win on a team that WAS base raping (mostly because I sit there and watch my team be stupid while I get to shoot nobody because they get killed as soon as they spawn)...
SO please, don't kid yourself, there are people out there with scrupulous.
P.S. the unlimited arty/command assets hack WAS A CONFIRMED hack that DICE even had hardcoded OUT in the last patch in an attempt to stop them from doing it anymore. Unsure if what they did worked, but in previous versions they DID have a hack that did that... and it worked. There have also been exploits to get the same thing to happen in the past as well... those are probably also not around anymore, but I'm not sure.
Dude you really need to get a grip... you sound like a real jerk.... sounding a bit DEFENSIVE if you ask me... I wonder why you'd be like that? HMM... yea just stop being a jerk... OK?Originally posted by Fingulfin1: IS SERVER SIDE, AKA NOT POSSIBLE. I don't think you actually understand what a hack is... Let me put it in a way that you might understand: Bi yersilf a bookk lern yersilf sum nowlej.
2: I have seen commanders who put up UAVs and yet don't drop Arty. How do they know the enemy team isn't playing as support? Those IDS have a fairly large range, and are easy to relocate.
3: Only works on board a titan. TITAN. INSIDE. Get it?
4: Again I say, everyone does it and those who don't are in denial.
Ok, so we've established that the client can't normally hack into the server end of things.... EVER think maybe some of the server hosts might have something to do with it? Guess that never crossed your mind? Anways, let it go... stop being a jerk.You can't hack server files... I don't understand what part of this you are not understanding. Even if they used an FTP account to the server itself and edited the files (which, btw, is not possible. EA made sure of that) everyone connecting would get immediately kicked because their client files wouldn't match that of the server. Hacks are done using 3rd part programs that can manipulate things CLIENT side.
Why does everyone always try to excuse base raping by saying it's LEGIT? What does that suppose to mean exactly? Pretty much DICE doesn't care what we do unless it's an exploit of the game or some 3rd party hack.. otherwise ANYTHING goes... they aren't here to play babysitters for us. It's up to the server admins to decide if that kind of behavior is tolerated... but that doesn't make it any less cheap, even if they allow it.Originally posted by EzekielWell you can't hack server sided information, which includes that Walker Guns and the Firing through the walls.
Base Raping is a fully legit tactic, as said so by EA/DICE. (i don't like it, but it's legit).
And you can't tell whether the other team has any IDS' down or a commander spotting.
Not sure about this, punkbuster has been fooled in ways before.... but I get what your saying. I'd agree with you that the clients cannot change anything server side... the server would have to do that....Originally posted by alex98ukHaving seen pretty much every post about hacking, i know this is impossible.
All health related data is held server side, and thus cannot be hacked. If it was, then all clients connecting would have to have hacked files as well. Then, punkbuster would have to be turned off.
Likely cause is bad netcoding by EA/DICE which means that the hitboxes were well out.
Just admit, your wrong.
More likely there is registation problems in BF2142..... like he just mentioned... rather then "health hacks"..... but then, I've seen things before I thought was impossible.... so you can never be 100% sure.
Ok, first of all, KNIFE misregistrations are something that is common... it's the weapon that has that problem the MOST... trust me there have been times I've knifed somebody FOUR TIMES in a row, and three of them seemed to hit (made the hitting flesh noise) but only the fourth killed..... so yea, hit registeration can be a problem.i've seen health hacks. they couldn't die. even a knife they just survived. they had 0 death and just shot trough wall( a team mate confirmed me he was shooting against a wall). they survived a whole clip of my baur point blank range. even a knife(i heard it was a registered one it makes another sound). and they could't die. so it is possible. it is possible they just real time hacked so they were modding the information in the memory of the server. then nothing can stop it. and if you say EA made it. do you ever think it would ever be bugfree?
That might be true, but also there are too many people who just dismiss without looking into the possiblity at all when somebody crys hack... there ARE hacks out there.... I for one try to listen to see who they are talking about, then look for myself... I just don't get why people GET MAD over this? If nobody is being banned or even kicked, just ACCUSED, then what's the problem? I only see a problem if somebody WRONGLY gets banned for not doing anything wrong.... but to CHECK it out? Seriously? How is that so bothersome? Hell if you don't care just IGNORE the person... I do.. it's not hard.Comment
-
@Baseraping: Then fine, don't do it. If its not against the server rules, its LEGIT. Show me some fine print that says its not. All is fair in love and war, the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to 2142. In Real Life there are morals, scruples and honor that you can hold do, however in a war game you can do whatever you want (thats within the server and EA rules)
@Unlimited Commander Assets: Doesn't work with the UAV! Go ahead, search YouTube for some hack videos. Note that they LOVE to show off unlimited Arty/Emp/Supply Crates. Why don't they show off the UAV
@Server Side Hacking: Guess how EA decided to stop hacking the Orbital/EMP/Supply Crate! They made the timers server side as opposed to client side. Seen an unlimited Arty hack in 1.40 yet
@Me being defensive: I am not defensive, I am offensive against noobs. The noobs who keep posting this BS are trashing clans unjustly. If you are all for Slander, then good for you.Comment
-
hmm......I've seen unlimited UAVs before....:pOriginally posted by Fingulfin@Unlimited Commander Assets: Doesn't work with the UAV! Go ahead, search YouTube for some hack videos. Note that they LOVE to show off unlimited Arty/Emp/Supply Crates. Why don't they show off the UAV
Comment
-
Well it is a pain in the arse hearing it all the times, because yea it is fun to be accused of hacking, but when admins start kicking/banning just because your better than them, it gets annoying.That might be true, but also there are too many people who just dismiss without looking into the possiblity at all when somebody crys hack... there ARE hacks out there.... I for one try to listen to see who they are talking about, then look for myself... I just don't get why people GET MAD over this? If nobody is being banned or even kicked, just ACCUSED, then what's the problem? I only see a problem if somebody WRONGLY gets banned for not doing anything wrong.... but to CHECK it out? Seriously? How is that so bothersome? Hell if you don't care just IGNORE the person... I do.. it's not hard.Comment
-
I have been kicked by an admin decision from the German fun clan...=GFC=, it is a "fun" place to play except when the admins enter the equation :p.
Pity I don´t know german, else I would go to their forum and report their adminstrator.
Anyone knows a guy named Alex180175?Comment
-
Some good sense made here, though some un-believers who don't look into the possibility of hacks yet. And I haven't seen unlimited artillery but I've seen extended artillery where the artillery lasts twice as long as normal and does extra damage!
As for Eze the unbeliver, whoopie you have his dog tags, what do you want a dog biscuit? At some point you snuck up when he was sniping, or at some point you bunnyhopped around him knifing away like a noob or at some point he ran out of ammo, who the hell cares?Comment
-
Not seen this Alex bloke - will have to look into him next time I'm online hunting noobs!
Too true farmer - if your forum name and gaming name are the same you might as well hold up a neon sign saying "hunt me down" !
Had a couple good games - cant remember the server forgot to check it. Dam! one server where no one did hacks, no one cheated and no one used nooby tactics from what I saw! Good clean fun!Comment
-
I agree with the posts about how many of these are not hacks. Its pretty simple to figure out what can and cant be done, when looking at the info presented in this thread.
I do think that most of the parties could have brought a better discussion to this thread, that is the whole reason these threads are here after all.
@ ThirtyOughtSix - You do have a good point in your post too. Dont let the kids get to you. Notice the two loudest, most defensive posters are both under 20. Especially the kid who is 17, and has the audacity to call others noobs.
Youre 17 - STFU son !Comment
-
What can be done about the hacks?......not a lot apart from getting your own server and making sure all hackers and noobers are kicked out!Comment
-
ahhh to be 17 again.Originally posted by FingulfinThe reason I get so "Defensive" is cause these people ARE noobs. I get Hackusations on a daily basis, for outrageous reasons.
You don't understand game programing and networking, so STFU N00B.
1- Notice I didnt say that you were incorrect, I took issue with your attitude towards other members. You could have made the same point without being a snot-nosed little punk.
2- I love your assumption that I dont understand software or networking. You should be careful who you argue with. If you want to talk serious tech, come back after your big 2 year program and well see what you know. I am an a technologist, and I develop military hardware for a living. Youre out of your league son.
BTW - good luck taking computer science at your little community college there son - thats quite the high level education:laugh:
Dont bother responding - Youre good for some laughs, and that is all. Youve already proven that youre in over your head, and are not capable of further meaningful discussion.Comment
-
Just cause I know how to program a tank doesn't mean I know the least bit about how coding logic for a crappy physics engine works. Just cause I know PHP doesn't mean I can give people advice on asp.NET
Besides, my last comment was targeted at the NoobHunter.
PS: This is the internet. I can act however I want. The NoobHunter wasn't being any more civilized than me. At least I use proper grammar. I tried being "nice", but he didn't listen. I didn't do much swearing (don't really think I used any till my last post) either.
Calling people "Noobs" is a something I do all the time, whether I am serious or not. God, this isn't real life... What does it matter to you if some "snot-nosed little punk" calls you a noob?Comment
Comment