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Claymores are by far ar the worst. The radius seems to constantly change. It's also annoying just to see snipers run around with claymores as there primary weapon so they can pin you in once you gun them down. If they are going to have the option of a claymores not to kill teammates they should go back to making them destructable.....thats all I want. Oh and GL's suck too.
Claymores, especially those asshats that run up to you, drop the claymore and then proceed to run away (i guess gunfights are too much for these guys).
Grenade spam runs a close second. A well timed nade here and there is fine, but having someone sit behind a wall as support and spam out nades is lame.
oh ive got a weird one. been playing on jalalabad a lot lately, and have been trying to learn it inside out to optimise the playing experience. anyway, where the wall that divides the open plain from the market flag is, theres a rock that ya can jump onto to get over the wall. well i got on the rock, then proned to hide from someone. when i stood up again, i had morphed into the rock unable to move at all, and my health slowly deteriorated. anyone know what happend here?
Originally posted by VeNoM:[AK]
Dieing 6 or more times because you keep getting revived.
Claymores, especially those asshats that run up to you, drop the claymore and then proceed to run away (i guess gunfights are too much for these guys).
ok, lets take this into reality, assuming BF2 were real. if you're a sniper, and you see somebody running toward you at close range, there is no way that you would EVER drop down and try to kill him with your pistol or rifle if they have any other type of gun, because you would get owned. the only way you would expect to live is to get out of sight before they can shoot at you. then at that point, you aren't going to camp with a sniper rifle since everyone would hop out of your aim, so you toss down a claymore.
the only times you can complain about claymores, in my opinion, is when they are spammed (i don't mean placing one at the top of a ladder, assholes) or when they are placed at spawns.
Heck, basically dieing to anyone who I deem to be a n00b. Getting capped by a good player is one thing, because it happens. But getting smoked by some lucky n00b who's praying and spraying is another. I know that sounds kind of elitist, but I just don't like dieing when I shouldn't of.
ok, lets take this into reality, assuming BF2 were real. if you're a sniper, and you see somebody running toward you at close range, there is no way that you would EVER drop down and try to kill him with your pistol or rifle if they have any other type of gun, because you would get owned. the only way you would expect to live is to get out of sight before they can shoot at you. then at that point, you aren't going to camp with a sniper rifle since everyone would hop out of your aim, so you toss down a claymore.
the only times you can complain about claymores, in my opinion, is when they are spammed (i don't mean placing one at the top of a ladder, assholes) or when they are placed at spawns.
that's my rant for the thread, good day.
Wtf... why would a sniper in RL drop a claymore proximity mine that is more than likely to blow his own leg off and probably more, and i assure you that he would not 'toss' it onto the floor.
ok, lets take this into reality, assuming BF2 were real. if you're a sniper, and you see somebody running toward you at close range, there is no way that you would EVER drop down and try to kill him with your pistol or rifle if they have any other type of gun, because you would get owned. the only way you would expect to live is to get out of sight before they can shoot at you. then at that point, you aren't going to camp with a sniper rifle since everyone would hop out of your aim, so you toss down a claymore.
the only times you can complain about claymores, in my opinion, is when they are spammed (i don't mean placing one at the top of a ladder, assholes) or when they are placed at spawns.
that's my rant for the thread, good day.
Yeah, and when you see infantry running at you in real life you fire an ERYX at them, right?
to tasty and camper, notice i said in the example that we are assuming BF2 is real. the point of me saying that is to think about what you would actually do if your life were on the line. you do what you have to do and you don't take chances.
The knife is over powerful? You are the very first person I have ever seen who claims this. Hmmm, why is that? Maybe you should stop for a second and try to use your own knife instead of pulling out a pistol. Sorry, it is meelee combat and even in halo you die in one shot. Maybe if you didn't spam your gaymores on the flag you wouldn't have this problem? Tough luck.
How exactly would me placing mines at a flag lead to me having trouble with people knifing me?
I DON'T have trouble killing people with knives. Every once in a while one slips through though, and I hate it. Which is what's the point of the topic remember? I honestly don't mind a knifing, but what irritates me is when a knife hit kills in 1 shot, when I've got to shoot a person 4 times or more with an assault rifle. It is completely idiotically powerful. The limp wristed slash the guy uses isn't even powerful looking. A 5.56mm or 7.62mm at close range will liquify the target. But he can absorb 3 of them and then kill you with the flick of a wrist.
No, my justifications are as follows:
a) Takes away from gameplay for anyone, not just me.
Except for the fact it adds to the game for everyone who does it, or who relies on it to protect "out of the way" flags so one can join in the usual fragfest at other flags
b)absolutely no skill required
Except for the skill to position it so you scrag more than one guy, and the skill to know where it's best to place them on "fool proof" tracks.
Again, I'm not arguing this point. It is requires nothing more than forethought, and the 3 seconds it takes to place them. However placing them is less noobish than bitching about someone being smart enough to counter you.
c) BS way to defend a flag, at least with C4 someone actually has a push a button.
How is it a BS way to defend a flag? This is the role of mines IRL. Area denial. This is how they work in the game as well. While I'll happily admit there isn't any current method to counter them besides tripping them and then getting revived, surely you have a medic in your squad anyway? I don't use Claymores to only get kills, I use them as an early warning that a vital flag is getting taken. It does mean I get a kill, and hopefully I can either delay the assaulting party long enough to counter it, or hopefully wipe it out.
d) A gaymore on a flag is weak. Thats so low I can't believe your proud of it.
I think bitching about someone using a valid, non exploit tactic is weak. I can't believe you are so self important that you think someone playing in a method to counter you charge-in-alone-and-to-it-all-by-my-self is worse.
e) Is only a problem in FF off servers
Sooooo only play on FF on servers?
f) If you played on a real server with FF on, you'd be solved in 5 minutes or less.
Huh? I only play on FF on, ranked servers. Part of these "1337 Skillz" you doubt are placing the mines where they are more likely to be tripped by a badguy than a goodguy. This is one of the reasons you DO mine flags. Because leaving them anywhere else will almost guarentee you a TK. Leaving them at the base of a flag means only people interested in getting to the flag, IE YOU, will trip them.
TV station in shargi or in warlord, doesn't matter, there are two ways in it.
Which is generally why you have 2 mines....
As for not going for the flag, What if its the only flag left? What do you suggest? Maybe I should just spawn camp you with a support gun or lug nades and throw gaymores on your spawns?
Do either. If we are down to out last flag, then I'm sure as hell in my right to do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING short of cheating to protect it, aren't I? Should I just roll over and let you win? If you are that intent on getting to the flag, take the death. You should have many medics around anyway. And I doubt there will only be my mines to stop you. There will probably also be another 31 guys spawning with machineguns intent on stopping you.....
You got me there, I want to take the flag, especially when its the last capable flag to cap. You "trying" to stop me makes no sense to me. Where did the "effort" come in? That sprint and twirl and left click must be rather intensive.
I never said it took effort. All I said was it isn't as gay as you making it out to be. I don't see how you can say "you trying to stop me makes no sence to me", thats what the game is about remember? I'm meant to use all the tools in my inventory to acheive this. No matter how good you are at killing people, if your team loses all your flags you'll lose the game. "effortless" claymores on flags are as gay as arty-ing the flag, throwing grenades at it, dropping a bomb on it, hitting it with a burst from a heli cannon.....
Why are you capping flags while playing as a sniper? I think you just admitted your a noob again indirectly.
Or I just admited I'm NOT a noob sniper who sits off by himself miles from the action to try one shot kills form a mile away and adds nothing to the team. There are also times when you kill a sniper as you approach a flag. Why not use his dropped kit to sow death and distruction, especially as it helps you cap the flag and it protects you? There are also times when you can be sniping and you have the opportunity to capture a flag by yourself. Why not cover your bases by setting up some anti spawn mines?
So let me get this straight, this is how you jusitify putting them on flags right or one of the reasons anyways? Because the enemy team is running like sheep to cap a flag and in your eyes you see free points right?
Yes. Thats EXACTLY the motivation. Why not? If they are acting like sheep, they deserve to be slaughtered like mutton.
But don't get me wrong, going through obvious choke points is fair game but spawns and flags should be off limits simply because of what I've stated bove and many times before.
Actually you haven't stated anything worthwile besides its Gay and I shouldn't be trying to defend my flags in the first place.
Nade spamming is not confined to mass group orgies FYI. I often get spammed with nades on my own let alone having one or more persons next to I.
Not only to group orgies, but generally on the same path every time.
Grenade spam only really works as SPAM when it is a shower of grenades meeting a rushing mob. The grenades from a single squad can hardly be called spam, because you can reply with just as many, if you play in a squad. As for "obvious choke points", well how is that different to a place where the enemy is forced into a circle? I really don't see your point.
Umm, All I've said is that your a noob because you put gaymores on a flag. Now when I read this your trying to use plural I think which is where I'm confused.
And then your saying the knife is over powered...
This makes no sense. I don't even understand what you were trying to say here. You called me a noob because I did something other than run straight towards you and try duke it out "like a man". It sounds like you are trying to attack my spelling. If that's the case you might want to look up the difference between "you're" and "your".
Incidently
An object lesson.
A bottle of water.
Add a .22LR round from a pistol at 5m
A bottle of water
Add Applegate Fairbairn fighting knife
THIS is why one hit kill knife kills annoy me.
Umm and you don't do that? Oh yeah thats right, yours are on the hotel flag probably. Of course thats the smartest place to place them because people will definately go there some point in the game.
Actually no I don't do that. Because that IS lame. IMHO I think all suicide attacks in BF2 are lame. Hotel flag? Sometimes. And you can cap this flag without tripping the claymores. Simply stand in the road..... Like I said, mine are probably at Factory anyway.
Ok listen carefully, IMO you are worthless and the low of the low if you put gaymores on the flag. Putting them on the ramps is ok.
And exactly HOW is this different? Both will kill you equally dead.The ones at the flag will also be more effective to counter those APC charges across the water. When the sardines jump out.....
Over all though I'd like to see them gone period because its as simple as take 3 steps, throw it down, step back, step back, step back, move to the right, move to the right, move to the right, throw it down. It's kind of like dancing almost now, and there are the true dancers and spawn and jump around and twirl for you too but there final move is always the same.
But the fact is, my refuge is FF on servers and thats where you can find me. I try hard to avoid FF off servers.
Yes, I also only play on FF on servers. Ranked FF on servers. The claymores are as simple as "click". But then so is the knife. And the tank. And the ERXY and artillery. If you can't counter them, then mines are designed to kill people just like you.
Not to mention the tiger does a death dive thats not recoverable if your not careful which really makes soloing a pain in the arse let alone having both seats occupied.
And I'M the person who's using the game to get cheap kills? How egotistical is soloing? Not only can it be seen as a type of exploit, having the audacity to say "I'm the only one good enough to do it" is astounding. You probably redline as well don't you? Choppers have TWO seats for a reason. Grabbing it to hog kills..
Sometimes you gotta blow yourself up in hopes that you kill someone before your about to die. I wouldn't really call that noob, just funny.
But blowing yourself up with a claymore is gay. With C4 it's cool.
Riiiiiiight.
You're last quote again proves your a noob sniper at heart. Running around in CQB with a k/d higher than 1 is normal for you? This is clearly because your running into enemy squades and spamming your gaymores and/or nades and not using a knife or pistol. Ok maybe the odd kill you get using a gun but the only CQB sniper skill worthy of compliment is knifing people.
Or I don't know, how about using the SVD? Or the Chinese Type 80? Or here is a really strange idea, how about using the pistol? It's quite an effective weapon, especially if you are fighting in a squad. Again, you are arguing two completely counter productive sides of the same coin. Claymores at flags or claymores in CQB? If I've placed them on flags like I say I have, I can't spam them in close combat can I?
I often have a K : D of greater than one when I'm a sniper. Why? Because I can use the pistol. I can use the knife. I can point shoot the M24, and I can throw grenades. I can also often hit more than one person with headshots from the SVD or even the M24 in rapid sucession.
Well when you are going for a flag, it does not take more than 2 gaymores to roughly cover most of the area around it. Please suggest a method to cap it in IO mode without running over your idiotically placed gaymores please?
WORK IN A SQUAD!
Get blown up by the claymore. Then get revived.
Or go for another flag. Remember those words from earlier? Area Denial? well this flag is denied to you. Unless you want to take the death.
Again, it can't be idiotically placed if it's doing it's job of killing the enemy.
There are often many different ways to cap a flag, and it's very rare that you can completely cordon off a flag with claymores. There are some, but those are few and far between. Most of the flags that allow total coverage generally means one claymore will detonate the second, only allowing one kill anyway.
Which flags are you having trouble with? I'd gladly help you avoid my "idiotic" claymore.
Better yet play an FF on server.
And I'm sorry your a noob. Actually, wait I'm not. I hope you get shock paddle in your noob face again soon.
I also hope you rack up your negative score you deserve on a FF on server one of these days, you prolly wouldn't last more than 5 minutes if this is your only strategy towards killing people.
Again, it isn't my only strategy, it is one of the tools on my belt, so I will use it where it is most effective. This means most likely to kill a badguy without hurting a goodguy. And in a place that's almost guarenteed to get tripped sometime in the game.
And I'll say this slowly for you, I only play on FF on servers.
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