Most disliked method of dieing...

[waaah_wah]

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Yeah, and when you see infantry running at you in real life you fire an ERYX at them, right?

If that will save your lifee then YES.

[PTGKillAllFools]

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Definitely claymores. NO DOUBT. Anything other than claymores would be dieing in a barrage of grenades or being killed by a mob of people then being taunted after killing like 3 of them.

[System]

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How exactly would me placing mines at a flag lead to me having trouble with people knifing me?

I DON'T have trouble killing people with knives. Every once in a while one slips through though, and I hate it. Which is what's the point of the topic remember? I honestly don't mind a knifing, but what irritates me is when a knife hit kills in 1 shot, when I've got to shoot a person 4 times or more with an assault rifle. It is completely idiotically powerful. The limp wristed slash the guy uses isn't even powerful looking. A 5.56mm or 7.62mm at close range will liquify the target. But he can absorb 3 of them and then kill you with the flick of a wrist.



Except for the fact it adds to the game for everyone who does it, or who relies on it to protect "out of the way" flags so one can join in the usual fragfest at other flags


Except for the skill to position it so you scrag more than one guy, and the skill to know where it's best to place them on "fool proof" tracks.

Again, I'm not arguing this point. It is requires nothing more than forethought, and the 3 seconds it takes to place them. However placing them is less noobish than bitching about someone being smart enough to counter you.


How is it a BS way to defend a flag? This is the role of mines IRL. Area denial. This is how they work in the game as well. While I'll happily admit there isn't any current method to counter them besides tripping them and then getting revived, surely you have a medic in your squad anyway? I don't use Claymores to only get kills, I use them as an early warning that a vital flag is getting taken. It does mean I get a kill, and hopefully I can either delay the assaulting party long enough to counter it, or hopefully wipe it out.


I think bitching about someone using a valid, non exploit tactic is weak. I can't believe you are so self important that you think someone playing in a method to counter you charge-in-alone-and-to-it-all-by-my-self is worse.


Sooooo only play on FF on servers?


Huh? I only play on FF on, ranked servers. Part of these "1337 Skillz" you doubt are placing the mines where they are more likely to be tripped by a badguy than a goodguy. This is one of the reasons you DO mine flags. Because leaving them anywhere else will almost guarentee you a TK. Leaving them at the base of a flag means only people interested in getting to the flag, IE YOU, will trip them.


Which is generally why you have 2 mines....



Do either. If we are down to out last flag, then I'm sure as hell in my right to do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING short of cheating to protect it, aren't I? Should I just roll over and let you win? If you are that intent on getting to the flag, take the death. You should have many medics around anyway. And I doubt there will only be my mines to stop you. There will probably also be another 31 guys spawning with machineguns intent on stopping you.....



I never said it took effort. All I said was it isn't as gay as you making it out to be. I don't see how you can say "you trying to stop me makes no sence to me", thats what the game is about remember? I'm meant to use all the tools in my inventory to acheive this. No matter how good you are at killing people, if your team loses all your flags you'll lose the game. "effortless" claymores on flags are as gay as arty-ing the flag, throwing grenades at it, dropping a bomb on it, hitting it with a burst from a heli cannon.....



Or I just admited I'm NOT a noob sniper who sits off by himself miles from the action to try one shot kills form a mile away and adds nothing to the team. There are also times when you kill a sniper as you approach a flag. Why not use his dropped kit to sow death and distruction, especially as it helps you cap the flag and it protects you? There are also times when you can be sniping and you have the opportunity to capture a flag by yourself. Why not cover your bases by setting up some anti spawn mines?



Yes. Thats EXACTLY the motivation. Why not? If they are acting like sheep, they deserve to be slaughtered like mutton.


Actually you haven't stated anything worthwile besides its Gay and I shouldn't be trying to defend my flags in the first place.

Not only to group orgies, but generally on the same path every time.

Grenade spam only really works as SPAM when it is a shower of grenades meeting a rushing mob. The grenades from a single squad can hardly be called spam, because you can reply with just as many, if you play in a squad. As for "obvious choke points", well how is that different to a place where the enemy is forced into a circle? I really don't see your point.



This makes no sense. I don't even understand what you were trying to say here. You called me a noob because I did something other than run straight towards you and try duke it out "like a man". It sounds like you are trying to attack my spelling. If that's the case you might want to look up the difference between "you're" and "your".
Incidently
An object lesson.
A bottle of water.


Add a .22LR round from a pistol at 5m



A bottle of water


Add Applegate Fairbairn fighting knife

THIS is why one hit kill knife kills annoy me.


Actually no I don't do that. Because that IS lame. IMHO I think all suicide attacks in BF2 are lame. Hotel flag? Sometimes. And you can cap this flag without tripping the claymores. Simply stand in the road..... Like I said, mine are probably at Factory anyway.


And exactly HOW is this different? Both will kill you equally dead.The ones at the flag will also be more effective to counter those APC charges across the water. When the sardines jump out.....



Yes, I also only play on FF on servers. Ranked FF on servers. The claymores are as simple as "click". But then so is the knife. And the tank. And the ERXY and artillery. If you can't counter them, then mines are designed to kill people just like you.



And I'M the person who's using the game to get cheap kills? How egotistical is soloing? Not only can it be seen as a type of exploit, having the audacity to say "I'm the only one good enough to do it" is astounding. You probably redline as well don't you? Choppers have TWO seats for a reason. Grabbing it to hog kills..


But blowing yourself up with a claymore is gay. With C4 it's cool.

Riiiiiiight.




Or I don't know, how about using the SVD? Or the Chinese Type 80? Or here is a really strange idea, how about using the pistol? It's quite an effective weapon, especially if you are fighting in a squad. Again, you are arguing two completely counter productive sides of the same coin. Claymores at flags or claymores in CQB? If I've placed them on flags like I say I have, I can't spam them in close combat can I?

I often have a K : D of greater than one when I'm a sniper. Why? Because I can use the pistol. I can use the knife. I can point shoot the M24, and I can throw grenades. I can also often hit more than one person with headshots from the SVD or even the M24 in rapid sucession.


WORK IN A SQUAD!

Get blown up by the claymore. Then get revived.

Or go for another flag. Remember those words from earlier? Area Denial? well this flag is denied to you. Unless you want to take the death.

Again, it can't be idiotically placed if it's doing it's job of killing the enemy.

There are often many different ways to cap a flag, and it's very rare that you can completely cordon off a flag with claymores. There are some, but those are few and far between. Most of the flags that allow total coverage generally means one claymore will detonate the second, only allowing one kill anyway.

Which flags are you having trouble with? I'd gladly help you avoid my "idiotic" claymore.


Again, it isn't my only strategy, it is one of the tools on my belt, so I will use it where it is most effective. This means most likely to kill a badguy without hurting a goodguy. And in a place that's almost guarenteed to get tripped sometime in the game.

And I'll say this slowly for you, I only play on FF on servers.

After skimming through part of your post and confused why your using real life pictures to justify your noobness I came to the conclusion that you had nothing valuable to say as its the exact same BS you keep posting over and over again.

If you want a real SS, use one from a came, not you playing with yourself.

Here is a great server aside from rule numero 1 but only babies really cry about that part.



You are just wasting my time. The fact is that you are a noob.

A gaymore on a flag is cheap shlt, and only people who can't kill with a gun need to do that. You clearly fit the describtion as you now claim you can't kill people knifing you with an automatic assualt rifle blasting at them. Woah, how many times are your going to say it with out opening your eyes? You suck a$$.

[Kayback]

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After skimming through part of your post and confused why your using real life pictures to justify your noobness I came to the conclusion that you had nothing valuable to say as its the exact same BS you keep posting over and over again.

If you want a real SS, use one from a came, not you playing with yourself.

Here is a great server aside from rule numero 1 but only babies really cry about that part.


You are just wasting my time. The fact is that you are a noob.

A gaymore on a flag is cheap shlt, and only people who can't kill with a gun need to do that. You clearly fit the describtion as you now claim you can't kill people knifing you with an automatic assualt rifle blasting at them. Woah, how many times are your going to say it with out opening your eyes? You suck a$$.

I used those pics from real life because that's why the knife is over powered. It does more damage in the game than it should. A knife is nowhere as near as powerful as a bullet, ever.

In BF2 it's more powerful than a .50Cal. This is why it irritates me.

This is why it is my "Most disliked method of dieing..." and this is why it is relevent to the topic.

Apparently I suck *** because I attempt to argue a point on the internet without falling back on personal insults. Oh well.

As you say I keep repeating myself, but you just aren't listening. It's not that I can't kill people who are knifing, it's that sometimes I don't. And when that happens, even if I have wounded them, I die.

Which is annoying.

The only reason I have to keep repeating myself is because I am trying to refute your often repeated "Claymores = Gayness" and "Kayback = Noob" which you keep repeating over and over and over and over.

Here is a great server aside from rule numero 1 but only babies really cry about that part.

And on the SGS servers I play on, only babies cry about claymores.

Congratulations on taking the moral high ground and after yelling at everyone that I'm not only a noob, I'm a gay noob, you are going to ignore me from now on.

I'm sure that not defending your position on anything you've said makes you the better person. I shall not miss further discourse with you.

KBK

[Yaz888]

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I never die.

[imported_Rafterman]

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I used those pics from real life because that's why the knife is over powered. It does more damage in the game than it should. A knife is nowhere as near as powerful as a bullet, ever.

In BF2 it's more powerful than a .50Cal. This is why it irritates me.

I understand what you're trying to say, but the knife isn't overpowered, it's just that the other weapons are underpowered.

Have you ever held any of the combat knives portrayed in BF2? They are a little bit larger than the knife shown in your pictures. Any hit to the torso or head in real life with a true combat knife will leave you gutted and dying - simple as that.

[Kayback]

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I shall grant you that the other weapons are too underpowered. However given the overall lethality of the weapons, the knife is more powerful in the game than any other comparative weapon. I'm not comparing it to the ERYX or other explosives. Even on FF on servers it can be wielded with abandon, never harming a friend, instakilling the enemy. I know the knife was smaller than the BF2 knife, it just happened to be the knife i had on me. But in fairness the bullet in the other picture was a .22 Long Rifle, not a high velocity assault rifle round. I have played with bigger knives and own a couple. I have also been seen the damage a knife and a 5.56 can do for real. If the knife in the game should gut you, the rifles should blow your spleen clean across the room :) As unsportsmanlike as you find the claymores, thats how unbelieveable i find the knife. I honestly don't know why i'm fighting so hard to defend a weapon thats only produced 500 out of my 26000 kills. Hell i've got less than 1/7 th of my 3500 sniper kills with them :) call it night shift crankiness

[LightBred]

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How the hell is it possible to turn a thread of this subject into a flame war...

[EasyDelta]

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LOL welcome to TBF2 buddy lol It happens way too much.

As for my killing thing, it's spawn raping or carrier raping.

[imported_Rafterman]

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I shall grant you that the other weapons are too underpowered. However given the overall lethality of the weapons, the knife is more powerful in the game than any other comparative weapon. I'm not comparing it to the ERYX or other explosives. Even on FF on servers it can be wielded with abandon, never harming a friend, instakilling the enemy. I know the knife was smaller than the BF2 knife, it just happened to be the knife i had on me. But in fairness the bullet in the other picture was a .22 Long Rifle, not a high velocity assault rifle round. I have played with bigger knives and own a couple. I have also been seen the damage a knife and a 5.56 can do for real. If the knife in the game should gut you, the rifles should blow your spleen clean across the room :) As unsportsmanlike as you find the claymores, thats how unbelieveable i find the knife. I honestly don't know why i'm fighting so hard to defend a weapon thats only produced 500 out of my 26000 kills. Hell i've got less than 1/7 th of my 3500 sniper kills with them :) call it night shift crankiness

Sounds like you're a prime candidate for Project Reality. I personally agree with you. I've always wanted the primary weapons to do more damage than they do, but BF2 is a lot better than some other games in that regard.

As far as the knife goes, conventional wisdom dictates that an FPS must have a one-hit-kill melee weapon. That's just the way it is in the gaming world, whereas in real life, most soldiers never use their knives in combat. Knives are mainly used to open cans, etc.

[G0ggy]

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1. Artillery
2. Plane bombing
3. Helicopters

[Dairuka]

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Going 30-0 and dying to a claymore. :dead:

[PTGKillAllFools]

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Well, about the whole knife thing, if a guy is holding a knife and running at you from 100 meters I think you'd have time to gun him down. The knife is only going to kill you if you're not ready for it. And if you are ready for it hope it hits you in the head and makes a puff of smoke xD.

[ElFipso]

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Claymores are suitable for a lot of things and as long as you can put them everywhere, ppl will put them everywhere. Any restriction like no claymores at flags is well meant but stupid too because there is no reason why not.
friendly soldiers can see the claymore and are blind and stupid if they get killed by it. if an enemy gets killed by it, it really justifies the drop of gaymore at this spot.
Thing is: BF2 is played very fast, ppl run around like crazy (specially in IO). If ppl would just be a bit more careful, like they would in RL, they wouldn't run into the claymore at the flag or whereever (there are still "invisible" gaymores).
In the end, it may be cheap to put a claymore at a flag, but it is even cheaper to run at a flag without checking for gaymores first. That's rambo style and not very smart.

Stupidest way for me to get killed is getting revived while watching the map or choosing another kit and then being surprised by another quick death.

FipZ

[L3adcannon]

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Damn, knives overpowered and clays at flags are gay and homo?
Where the f*ck do these people come from?

If get killed by something "unskilled" or "homo", then I wonder what that makes you?