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  • camper.
    Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 3459

    #16
    Re: Commander Points

    Originally posted by amndunncw
    Wrong. You get command points even if you are AFK and not doing any of the above.

    Command points = the average of your teams score.

    For those that don't know how to average.

    Average = The sum of all players on your teams points, divided by the number of playerson your team.

    Not exactly. It's a fraction, added EACH time a player gets a point. Supposing there are 16 players on your team, each time a player gets a point, it gives you 1/16 points - 0.0625. Meaning, that when the sum of all points accrued on your team = 16, you will get a point.

    The "average" will hold true if the number of players is more or less constant.

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    • BirdKiller
      Member
      • Feb 2005
      • 785

      #17
      Re: Commander Points

      No one wants to read my long analysis/explanation eh? : (

      To be technical, command points is not based on the average points of your team score, but based on the average points your team earns.

      The logic of "average points only" becomes doubtful once you consider the actions that could decrease the average such as high score players leaving or multiple players leaving/joining.

      And the commander's score doesn't actually double as it says in the game results, but simply:

      Total Score + Commander Points Earned

      The "2x score for winning" simplifies that equation so everybody understands how the hell that lazy bloke who spams "Enemy spotted" got first place in their team.

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      • JustMe0171

        #18
        Re: Commander Points

        Originally posted by ConscriptVirus View Post
        from wat i think..

        artillery kill = 1 pt
        normal kill = 2 pts
        resupply with crate = 1 pt

        and no points from reviving teammates or giving them ammo/health bags and no points for kill assists
        as allready said this is wrong, but i'm gonna go one step further & say that the less killing & ammo giving etc is more cmnd points , Providiing that your team is winning, cause u sure dont get noting for killingwith arty etc. so if i kill 20peep with arty, then enemy has lost 20 tickets usually right, thenthat is 20 kills someone on my team doesnt get making there score lower & all together makin you cmndr score lower.
        i used to think some cmnders were stupid for not puttin arty down on there heads but i see why.
        you can spot out a noob comndr when you team is winning & comndr keep poounding that last flag with arty, what a dipshtick , when team could rake up on spawn kills & push the score way up.

        hope this helps.

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        • Gun slinger

          #19
          Re: Commander Points

          BirdKiller I really liked your little tutorial on commanding, very accurate and well put, BUT I found ONE flaw in your equations

          Originally posted by Bird Killer
          So let's say you had the total of 50 commander points and overall of 50 points. You score 2 teamkills, giving -8 to your overall score to 42. The round ends with your team winning the round. Instead of 42 x 2 = 84, you actually get 92 points. Why? Because the game actually adds your overall score to the commander points you earned, so it's actually 42 + 50 = 92.

          if you have 50 command points and 42 combat points that you earned BEFORE you became commander, your team wins, you will not have 92 points.....you will actually have 142
          50 command point x 2 = 100 + 42 combat points = 142
          Ive tested this by becoming commander after I had earned 25 points doing normal combat, at the end of the round I had a total of 80 points.....
          80-25 = 55 commander points and my total score at the end of the round was 135.......55x2=110+25=135

          I also find it amusing how many people DO NOT realize the irony that you pointed out about the arty kills, I hate when my team is winning by 200 tickets and we got them pinned down to their last CP and the commander INSISTS on dropping arty.......WHY?!?!?!?! I try to explain it in game but some of these idiots must have a 2nd grade mentality

          I also had a commander yell at me the other night because I was repairing the UAV.......WHAT?!?!!? I asked why and his response was "I will repair it with a supply drop so I get the repair point"

          WRONG ANSWER A$$WIPE........not you Bird Killer, the idiot commander LOL

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          • Metal Knight

            #20
            Re: Commander Points

            Originally posted by Gun Slinger View Post
            had a commander yell at me the other night because I was repairing the UAV.......WHAT?!?!!? I asked why and his response was "I will repair it with a supply drop so I get the repair point"

            WRONG ANSWER A$$WIPE........not you Bird Killer, the idiot commander LOL
            rofl, awww maybe she/he was a poor noob and they wanted points because they didnt know what they were getting themselves into when they applied to be a commander...still i like your response - if that is the one you gave at the time =P

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            • BirdKiller
              Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 785

              #21
              Re: Commander Points

              if you have 50 command points and 42 combat points that you earned BEFORE you became commander, your team wins, you will not have 92 points.....you will actually have 142
              50 command point x 2 = 100 + 42 combat points = 142
              Ive tested this by becoming commander after I had earned 25 points doing normal combat, at the end of the round I had a total of 80 points.....
              80-25 = 55 commander points and my total score at the end of the round was 135.......55x2=110+25=135
              You misunderstood about where those 42 points came from. "Total score" in my equation is not "combat points", but the score you see at the end of the result before the bonus is applied. This means that the total score could be a combination of both Combat, Teamwork, and Command points; it doesn't matter what makes up those points.

              In a way, you just verified my equation:

              With 50 command points and 42 combat points earned and assuming you committed no explicit teamkills other than by artillery, team damage, or suicides, your total score before the bonus would be 92 (50 command points + 42 combat points). If you win as commander, your final score would be:

              92 [Total Score before bonus] + 50 [Command Points earned] = 142 [Final Score after bonus].

              From your personal experience/test:

              25 Combat Points + 55 Command Points = 80 [Total Score before bonus]

              80 [Total Score before bonus] + 55 [Command Points earned] = 135 [Final Score after bonus].

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              • imported_kiwi
                Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 555

                #22
                Re: Commander Points

                Yes, they dont get anything if they reduce enemy tickets by dropping arti but they might do so because arti is fun :) Even though you win by 200

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                • fulconarrow

                  #23
                  Re: Commander Points

                  Commander points = all players 'team' points added up then divided by how many players there are on your team. That will equal the amount of points YOU get for being the commander.

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                  • LightBred

                    #24
                    Re: Commander Points

                    Originally posted by ConscriptVirus View Post
                    from wat i think..

                    artillery kill = 1 pt
                    normal kill = 2 pts
                    resupply with crate = 1 pt

                    and no points from reviving teammates or giving them ammo/health bags and no points for kill assists
                    uh...
                    No..

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                    • Metal Knight

                      #25
                      Re: Commander Points

                      you know that you can repair assets using re-supply though yes?

                      but it doesnt give you points

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                      • Mr.playfoot

                        #26
                        Re: Commander Points

                        cheers guys, i finally understand now

                        :)

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                        • DC->nerd

                          #27
                          Re: Commander Points

                          I thought you just get 1 point every time a player on your team does something to get teamwork points.


                          something like this(only if your teammates do it, since you don't get points for doing these actions):

                          flag neutralize/capture: 2 points for them, 1 for you
                          flag neutralize/capture assist: 1 point for them, 1 for you
                          revive: 2 points for them, 1 for you
                          heal/resupply/repair: 1 point for them, 1 point for you
                          kill damage assist: 1 point for them, 1 point for you

                          so you pretty much get one trophy point if your teammates get 1 or 2 teamwork points

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                          • Rob848
                            Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 389

                            #28
                            Re: Commander Points

                            Well, you're wrong.
                            It's a fraction, added EACH time a player gets a point. Supposing there are 16 players on your team, each time a player gets a point, it gives you 1/16 points - 0.0625. Meaning, that when the sum of all points accrued on your team = 16, you will get a point.

                            The "average" will hold true if the number of players is more or less constant.

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                            • Metal Knight

                              #29
                              Re: Commander Points

                              hmmm but do you get points added for UAV/Arty etc.

                              and what about giving commands/completing requests by Squad leaders?

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                              • imported_kiwi
                                Member
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 555

                                #30
                                Re: Commander Points

                                NO, you don't but placing UAV you help your team a lot which eventually gets you points :)

                                And don't bother giving orders unless you have nothing else to do

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